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My manifold is cracked……Cast or Stainless replacement?


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#1 GordonMasson

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 08:31 AM

OK so not a great start to the new year…. But happy New Year to you all anyway!

So, the manifold on the GT3 has developed a small hole in it just next to the locating stud on cylinder No. 3.

No doubt there will be various view on whether to go for a Lotus replacement or a tubular stainless alternative so I throw the question open to the experts out there who may have been here before.

Suggestions please … and an idea of cost would be great too.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:32 AM

Gordon,

Manifolds are about £500 plus fitting. That's for a cast one and would be what I would get fitted. Depending on who is able to do it and how far you want to travel I would think the total cost would be in the region of £1500.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 10:12 AM

I am going for a stainless tubular on my S2 when funds allow - for me going tubular or cast depends on how long you are keeping the car for. If its a lifer and you can afford it then go stainless.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 10:26 AM

Neil, speak to Simon350s as he's got my old RDEnterprises tubular manifold gathering dust. I'm sure he'd be open to an offer on it.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 12:06 PM

Stainless about £850 around the same price as a cast one
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 12:09 PM

£525 from SWLC :)
 


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Posted 10 January 2011 - 12:53 PM

I had mine replaced recently, the Cast one from SWLC. The expensive bit is not the fitting of the new but the taking off of the old if the nuts are all siezed. Some were on mine and so the garage cut them all off and replaced all with new studs and nuts.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 01:13 PM

OK thanks for the info guys.

So it sounds like a cast one is the one to go for then?
Anyone think the stainless one is a better option before I bite the built.

Any suggested alternatives to SWLC or is that the best to go for?

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 01:28 PM

Had the SWLC manifold fitted to my S4S in May 2007. Seems fine so far.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 01:31 PM

Gordon, the 3 choices are OEM, SWLC or Stainless Steel. If I were replacing mine, I'd go down the SWLC route. If you want that one, let me know and I'll see if I can get you a deal :)
 


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Posted 10 January 2011 - 02:15 PM

Mine had an update south west lotus manifold on and it cracked when I was looking they were £725 plus the vat now 525 plus the vat so delivered around £650 would I still buy a stainless manifold and save the 200 quid today .. Yes worth the additional 200 quid also don't have to take off the engine mount for fitting
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 03:25 PM

Who's manufacturing SS manifolds?

I have one, but it was part of a limited run manufactured here in the States. Several other people have made there own or comissioned small runs, but I didn't know they were available off the shelf.
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 03:36 PM

They're not, Pete has his done by a local exhaust company.
 


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Posted 10 January 2011 - 03:42 PM

Hello Lucas, I had my name on one of the ones that Al had made but when the 1st batch did not fit I got one made in the uk I know they have now supplied at least one other to an s4s . Dr Hess (the chap in the states who made the original stainless one) sent me over details that were very helpful when mine was made
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 04:38 PM

I'm pretty sure I can source one of "Al's" (it's a nice piece) if someone is interested!
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 06:27 PM

Don't know about turbo cars, but I purchased and installed a Dave Bean stainless 4-2-1 header into exhaust system on my S2 and love it. (still wonderful 20 plus years later.) Sadly it went out of production shortly after I bought it. As mentioned, getting off the old cast iron lump was a bit of a challenge with poor access to the nuts and some came out with the studs and one I had to cut off with a torch. Besides the much lighter weight and better breathing , the future access to the mounting hardware is much better. Once again, that's for an S2 and YMMV.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 07:23 PM

I need one of these too. was going to go stainless but not sure what I'm doing with the old girl this year now so will go for the SWLC one instead I think!!

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 01:44 PM

Gordon, the 3 choices are OEM, SWLC or Stainless Steel. If I were replacing mine, I'd go down the SWLC route. If you want that one, let me know and I'll see if I can get you a deal :)



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Posted 20 January 2011 - 07:02 AM

The stainless headers can be prone to cracking due to the heat. A steel header is better. I have had a couple made for cars I have had. One, which had an exposed header I had chrome plated but one could get one of those ceramic coatings done in the colour of your choice. I had the Supercharged Lancia I have a header made 4 into 1 in steel with the rest in stainless. The header cost $NZ200 (~100 euro) I did supply the plate for the head and made up a jig.
My lotus obviously had a cracked manifold at some stage as it came with a steel fabricated header. I have picked up a cast manifold locally since and I have in storage somewhere.
Look at steel headers as it is easier to work with and less prone to cracking. Corrosion is not a problem as it is hot enough to keep dry. Fit a stainless muffler if you like,

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 03:13 AM

has any one tried the quicksiver system sold by the forums for a n/a s3 need to replace mine or any info on the sj sports system thxs for any info rgds stevePosted Image




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