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#1 Rich H

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:22 PM

Hey all,

My OCD is twitching and I want to tidy up the wiring under the dash...

My car has suffered:
An after market alarm - Quite well installed in places, other places just stuffed under carpets - at least it now works properly.
At least 2 radio radio installs - How hard can it be to install a radio - apparently quite hard - every electrical connection was made with a crimp bullet and socket between the iso connectors - now soldered and sleeved
a tracker install - laughably poor and defiantely not functioning - just wrapped in tape and double sided taped to the rear boot bulkhead - now fixed properly
an achient nokia hands free kit - secured with double sided tape again but with miles of excess cable coiled under the radio - ripped out the bulk of the units under the dash but wiring, aerial and mic still int he car.

My OCD hates untidy wiring and preferes OEM quality crimps looming tape and so on where possible so I want to remove the lower dash to get in to tidy it all up.

Can I remove binnacle and centre console then remove the lower dash? That is where most of the crap wiring is. Is it hard to do?

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 01:01 PM

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 01:38 PM

Not planning on going quite that far but something to ponder...
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 01:55 PM

Here you go http://turboesprit.t...m/binnacle.html

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 03:02 PM

CHeers but binnacle I can do, it's the lower dash adn centre console I'm looking at.... :construction:
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 04:40 PM

Hacksaw...
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 05:10 PM

Not to begin with... :whistle:
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:27 PM

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It was worth it.

It's a really fiddly job, the glove box lining is a pain you need to take the "A" pillar lining (another pain) and the 2 centre studs at the top of the dash will really test you and your range of 1/4 drive sockets, lengths of extensions, universal joints, you have no choice about the seats, are you starting to get the picture ? and getting out is the easy bit ! :stuart:

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:34 PM

Your dash looks a lot different to mine.... mine is less sloped?

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 11:10 PM

Yours is an S4, mine an S3, I suspect the differences are cosmetic and there will similarity in the fixings.
Looks those Nokia hands free units were fitted by the same guy as did mine, if you find him kill him for me ! (he put self tappers through leather) and yes mine had 73 kilometres of redundant cables, hands free and CD stackers and the way the immobiliser was spliced in :thumbdown:

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 11:49 PM

Rich,

Some time ago I did a little write-up on the bolster removal under the steering wheel and if you PM me your email, I'll send it to you. Mine is LH drive but the basics are the same.
The passenger side is pretty much the same procedure.

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 07:23 PM

It's not hard at all, and I'm not even sure you need to remove the centre console. Once the binnacle is off, there are four nuts holding the dash assembly to the scuttle beam (usually two reached from the top, two from underneath. Disconnect the wiring and the speedo cable and it's out.

The lower bolster can be removed by first removing the column surround, then three fixings (two bolts and a nut???) from the inner sides of the bolster.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 05:26 PM

OK thanks, will have a look sunday

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 08:42 PM

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Inspired by this photo - I took the plunge today in renewing all of the leather in my chrome wrapped Esprit. Six and a half hours later, this is what I ended up with below (sorry - I'm not a very tidy mechanic!). And yes, there are some pretty tricky nuts to find and remove. Not looking forward to the reverse procedure when it all comes back nice and new in around 7 days time. Got quite a few pics of the deconstruction so may do a write up if any interest.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 08:57 PM

Re different angle of attack of the binnacle, 

Mine is an S3 but I have managed to refit the binnacle in 2 different angles - one correct, one incorrect. The incorrect one had it resting on the centre console and with wires visible from the outside. Once I had the binnacle mounting cradle sorted out, it sat properly on the dashboard. Easy job compared to complete dash removal though.

 

Having said that though, now I have had the dash out, I have inspected all the wiring, understand it (reasonably) and am confident with the connections. 

 

Is it going to be that itch you cannot scratch? if so, go for it but set aside a really decent amount of time and plan for damage to various structures - like others said, A pillar trim, carpets, various scratches on leather, knuckles - damn those dash to screen landing bolts!!!!


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 09:04 PM

a word of warning: when removing a S4 binnacle, always ensure a minimum distance of 100 metres between the car and mattthesparks.
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Posted 31 May 2013 - 11:25 PM

That's fairly conservative, 2 continents or six feet of dirt according to the manual...

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 01:31 AM

Bugger.  Guess that's why the screen broke.  RTFM.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 07:16 AM

Any advice on removing the A-pillar trim in a non destructive fashion? I gotta get my drooping doors aligned....


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 11:09 PM

Just realigned my passenger door, couldn't remove A-pillar trim so had to coax it away at the bottom and 'prise' it back in order to get a socket in to the upper hinge bolt. It isn't nice at all, but I thought it was the lesser of the two evils!!






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