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6th for Lotus at LMP2 Debut

[plumdeplakmuis]

Does this car run the new esprit engine?

[USAndretti42]

No. It's based uses a BMW engine.

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Weeda & Rossiter to race for Lotus at Spa

[NedaSay]

Ok I know that Lotus is footing the bill for this one but A BMW Judd powered Lola ran by a german squad doesn't make this thing a Lotus!!! Even if one or two official Lotus drivers are involved and the company spends money on the thing!!!

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[simonb]

6th for Lotus at LMP2 Debut

What am I looking at the black and gold BMW or the black and gold beetle behind it
Which one is made in Hethel?

[NedaSay]

no idea mate!

[gasmangt3]

Good effort I say, and i will be cheering these guys on next month at Le Mans.
Not many actual Lotus race cars ran Lotus engines, and as a comparison the sports racers of the 50's and 60's all ran either Coventy Climax engines or Ford engines.

[Exploded]

Yesterday at Spa 4 Mercedes trucks in "Lotus F1 Team Renault from Enstone livery" arrived with 2 Lola chassis and BMW Engines. All that was missing is a Lada logo...
Let's hope they do well this weekend.

Edited by Exploded, 01 May 2012 - 09:22 PM.

[Exploded]

With results as they got this weekend at Spa, I honestly can not see the benefit for branding the LMP2 cars Lotus.
This is turning into a second Indycar disaster scenario. I still think the Motorsport directors/managers postions need a re-think.

Edited by Exploded, 07 May 2012 - 09:22 AM.

[ramjet]

So you wish them well Gert (post #10) and then in the very next post (#11), you say it's all a bad idea? Make up your mind Gert.

And one indifferent result does not indicate how well they may or may not go.

[Exploded]

Michael, I said I hope they do well, as I hope for every team, they do well. But the fact is Lotus is doing everything in Motorsport these days, I believe it's matter of time and Lotus is into snowscooters or jetski's as well . They are gearing up with other partners, which are not doing well (except from "Renault from Enstone" aka Renault F1 aka Benetton aka Toleman). Well doing nothing is maybe not better, but the bad thing is that they are not in control of the situation, they can do ZERO about it. That is sad andwhat worries me and that is why I say it's bad doing some branding, when you can not point your finger when things are turning out to be disastrous, as it is here and in Indycar. If you can not control it, then leave it imho.

And 29th place out of 34 cars and a car that is supposed to last 24 hours which has to give up after 2 hours, that is not indifferent imho. I went to see the race, they were nowhere. Even the most positive people couldn't see a sparkle of hope. They have to turn it upside down, we are only 2 months away from Lemans...

Edited by ramjet, 08 May 2012 - 09:08 AM.
No need to quote the post directly above yours

[NedaSay]

Well that Lotus official team is the Colin Kolles Kodewa Racing... And when was Kolles successful for the last time? It was not in F1 with Jordan/Midland/Spyker/Force India/HRT! Not in DTM with his TME team always running a 1 or 2 year old car! Not in LMS even thought they were running Audi R10 (yes they were also a couple of years old). I know Kolles organization was highly successful at one point but I just cannot figure out when!

And why dilute this effort with the Rebellion racing sponsorship!?

[Exploded]

And why dilute this effort with the Rebellion racing sponsorship!?

That team is called REBELLION Lola - Toyota... Where is the Lotus in this?
I added a Lotus logo on my daily drive Mercedes yesterday, does that make it a Lotus now????
A lot of Alfa, Lancia and Fiat morons think they drive a Fezza, when they add a Fezza sticker to it, and one can argue about that, as Fiat owns around 90% of Ferrari. But in this case Lotus own 0.000% of Rebellion... Don't fool yourself, Lotus is just a sponsor.

[NedaSay]

Uh, and does Lotus owns any share in Kodewa? Do they provide anything but sponsorship and a name to this team?! Besides I was more thinking about what Kolles must think! Cause he signed a deal to sport the black and gold livery and the namesake! He gets to the track and suddenly he sees a different car though very very similar sporting the same black and gold livery and the same logo!

Now you are a casual endurance fan and you go to the track and you see four cars in black and gold, two are Lotuses and two are not!

Guess who is who!

Edited by ramjet, 08 May 2012 - 10:22 AM.

[Exploded]

I agree, I was there with some friends, they just couldn't understand it, why one is a Rebellion and the other is a "Lotus". Then they asked is this the Lotus V8 which is in the Lotus (pointing at the new Esprit engine); I said hell no it's a rebadged BMW... at that point they gave up in trying to understand what is Lotus and what is not...

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The Lotus LMP2 car ready for the 24 Heures Du Mans. More info here - http://www.thelotusf...heures-de-mans/

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