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  1. Facing the end of Evora production, I've decided that whilst the Emira will be lovely, the interior electronics is absolutely not my thing. So I've "invested" in trading in my Aquamarine (will miss that colour, not going to lie) NA for one of the last brand-new GT410s. Currently being prepped, PPF-ed and ceramic-coated by Topaz Detailing, will pick up Monday. I love the easier access and the softer suspension, which is really not far off the NAs other-worldly ride. I always thought they'd have to bury me in the blue Evora, but it will be a green one instead! Definitely not the end of the Evora for me.
    20 points
  2. Hey everyone, Thought I'd share some images having been playing around in Photoshop with the paint samples, big thanks to Tom and everyone else for posting millions of pictures. Let me know if you think any are way out, although I've matched the colours from the paint samples the 'brightness' of each paint is really just interpretation. Please don't read too much into these, just me having a play about. I've included blue for reference (the paint is unedited), the wheels are blacked out though.
    18 points
  3. Answers as promised (sorry for the delay, been moving a muck-heap, spreading and harrowing - payback for last night's excitement): What driving aids/ limiters etc are actually on the car? (I'm hoping minimal) - Contrary to Bibs' post elsewhere, I was categorically told last night that the FE would have adaptive cruise control. Go figure. If they get the homologation done before July the 8th (when the legislation is scheduled to come in to effect, there would be no speed limiter for the V6 FE. They were unsure if this would impact i4 cars (as they would be homologated at a later date in theory), but are looking in to it for me. They did suggest that the date for the legislation might slip, as in their experience they regularly do. When are i4 FE's scheduled to be delivered and what is the time-scale for configs, additional deposits etc? i4 FE Configurator is (at present) scheduled to go live some time in November but, as we already know, they are focussing on V6 Fe's first. 2nd deposits etc will follow the same pattern as those going for the V6. Autumn deliveries. What are the proposed servicing intervals? I got varying answers on this, but 12K miles or annual seemed to be the consensus (although there was some talk of the V6 following the Evora with 9K/ annual. Fixed price servicing. When will factory tours be available again/ available to deposit holders? Spring if all goes according to be plan. There was talk of looking at factory deliveries... Any indication on tyre costs/ tyre wear expectancy? Nothing yet, all mules are running a mix of tires and mostly running on the track so the data would be pretty meaningless right now. In November when the roadgoing "shakedown" cars become available they should start getting this data. When will deposit holders get a test drive? Dealers should be getting their demonstrators late Feb/March (more likely March) The ride for Sport was described to me as very similar to Evora Sport 410 but, as stated elsewhere, it was emphasised that Touring was probably going to be the sweet spot for all but the most committed track gods. They are looking at Service plans. I didn't see the question on the wheel/arches. Sorry. The event last night didn't go to plan (no reveal etc), BUT... the LOTUS staff were on hand and helpful, and obviously - and rightly so - proud of their baby. If someone I was talking to didn't have the answer, they went and grabbed the right person. Chris and the team at Hendy Poole were on hand, and did a great job. The car is stunning. With a bit more time made available to you to look and get as much of a feel for the car as you can without driving it, there is no doubt in my mind that this is a winner of a car. Yes, it's heavier etc. Still felt and looked like a Lotus should. Driver centric, just more useable. I am absolutely delighted.
    17 points
  4. I liked the "Phil's spec" Evora so much, I've just bought one. Wanted something as soft as the NA but with the performance/interior of the S2s and the GT410 delivers that in spades. Seems much quieter (NVH-wise) too. Will be picking up on Monday (currently being prepped /PPF-ed at Topaz Detailing).
    16 points
  5. Wasn't today, but still happy about it today. Became a Dad for the first time, beautiful baby girl born yesterday evening.
    15 points
  6. I’ve just sold my 91 964 Turbo after nearly 10 years of ownership and have ordered an Exige 420 FE. Will be one of the last built apparently, December I’m told, with delivery to NZ in the NY. Know very little about these machines but drove a 390 last week and loved it. Given NZ is the last stop on the line, didn’t have much choice in options but pretty happy with where I’ve landed: essex blue, yellow calipers, black wheels, alcantara sills and steering wheel, carbon roof, carbon diffuser, lightweight battery, kill switch and extinguisher, full carpets, cruise control (not sure if this is of use). Standby for stupid questions. Exige 7 Giltrap 420 Blue.pdf
    14 points
  7. Picked up mine yesterday afternoon, took the long way home - window open all the way, exhaust bypass switch ON. It's LOUD 😁 It was just getting dusk, the photos don't do Plum Crazy justice. Do I regret buying a final edition? What do you think?! 😉
    12 points
  8. Everyone who thinks it is too wide, seat position too high, 400bhp not enough power, too much like a sportscar, too little like a supercar, like an Evora, not like an Esprit - please cancel your deposit immediately so I can get my V6 manual FE sooner!
    12 points
  9. I've put together a piece including photos of my views on visiting the car at Rybrook in case anyone is interested. https://rmsmotoring.com/feature/lotus-emira-first-edition/
    12 points
  10. Magma Red on Fire Red Verdant Green on Motorsport Green - this really shows how the colour changes from almost black to metallic green depending on the light, very like Empire Green on the Lotus Carlton Hethel Yellow on Solar Yellow Shadow Grey on Metallic Grey Shadow Grey: bluey fleck Seneca Blue: silver fleck Magma Red: copper/gold fleck Nimbus Grey: silver fleck and the colour is more silver than grey Verdant Green: small fine copper/gold fleck Hethel Yellow: solid colour
    12 points
  11. Taken by the official photographer on the French adventure.
    11 points
  12. Came out of the supermarket yesterday and as I approached my Evora parked all on it's own I spotted an elderly gent wandering around it and peering inside. I asked him if he liked it and he replied "it's beautiful but I might have difficulty getting in and out" .. I opened the door and said "Try it" and while I unloaded the trolley into the boot he got in quite easily - because I slide the seat back to get out and forward after I'm back in. I took my trolley to the shelter and returned to my car and he got out quite easily with the biggest of smiles and said "I want one." He asked about mpg, I said "mid 20's when I boot it round the lanes when it's all 3rd gear, but much higher on a run. I'm now driving carefully because I'm low on fuel and getting higher mpg round the lanes" and he mentioned the local garage was out of diesel and E10 unleaded so they had nozzle covers padlocked and cones across the entrance but still had E5 Super working. Drove 1/2 mile to the only local garage, others are 15 miles away, through the cones, straight up to the pump and filled up, £55, and Range now showing 365 miles so I'm back to 'booting it.' That was a useful conversation!
    11 points
  13. Arriving at Bibracte archeological site for lunch, we were treated to a meal which would have been served up in medieval times on wooden benches. It's fair to say that whilst the fare was interesting, we were relieved not to have lived during those times. The afternoon included a drive up the top of the hill to see the continuing excavations of what was a town of 20,000 inhabitants back in the day, followed by a spirited drive to visit the spectacular Chateau de Sully, where we were treated to a tour, and back to the hotel again.
    11 points
  14. Nice to hear so many people talking about the Forum at the event. Here is a video of the unveiling tonight if anyone wants to see. Russell Carr was there and gave a good presentation walking through some design elements of the car which was a nice touch for me, great presenter too. It was funny when no one clapped as the cover came off as too busy looking at the car! Mainly due to fresh drinks in one hand and phone in the other. I am new too and had similar concerns. I managed to park without issue and there were a couple of lotus representatives helping in the car park when i arrived. I won’t lie, there wasn’t tons of spare spaces I’ve sat in the dark grey car which has the plain black leather interior and now also the blue show car tonight, both felt fine to me. If it helps, part of my brief to my partner on the way over to B&C tonight was to rank in comparison to my F type and Z4 where the Emira sits on the list for the following: The exterior first glance wow factor of the car, the material quality and how special it felt to be sat in the car, as in the interior design. I can confidently say for my own personal opinion that the car has more wow factor than the f type & Cayman. It's going to have huge road presence, the material quality inside is lovely, it’s not Rolls Royce shaggy rug but it’s more than satisfactory and it feels a very nice place to be inside, the alcantara interior gives it a much more “special” feeling in comparison to black leather in my opinion. I don’t think you should take the show car as a good example of build quality though, Russell Carr did add a disclaimer in his speech, mainly as a please be careful not to yank at everything @Evotion😂 because it is a model show car. Essentially saying it’s fragile, which to me meant when you close the door and it sounds crap don’t be alarmed as its just a model. Hope my ramble helped somewhere there 😅
    11 points
  15. ***** Straight from my heart......!! I lived 28 years (from 50-78 years of age) with my 1990 LHD Esprit Turbo SE.......it was a memorable love story. In April 2021 I traded her in for the last available new "2021" GT 410 Sport IPS in the Netherlands.......there are a total of 3 GT 410 Sport's now in the Netherlands and approx. 20 other new Evora types sold by the Dutch Lotus importer v.d. Kooi between 2010 and 2021. The GT 410 Sport cost you a rib off your body with the resp. official MSRP's of GBP 155k in 2018 and GBP 137k in 2019. I felt lucky to step in with a that time GBP 7,65k reduced price of GBP 118,5k......for my Esprit I received GBP 32k. ......a total investment of < GBP100k My Esprit was sold by v.d. Kooi within 1 week for GBP 38.250,- to a Ferrari + TVR owner. 🙄 It was difficult to trade in my perfect Esprit; especially because of my age and long time of ownership and love relation........however buying my (probably) last Lotus was a real challenge and I did it. I am very, very happy with the GT 410.....it is extremely exclusive in the Netherlands....it was my 1st "automatic" car with my between 1-1,5 million miles car history.....I feared the IPS, however I had to take it because it was part of the deal......now I am very, very happy with this IPS and his peddels.....I can drive the Evora both as a "man of age" and as a "youngster". I was aware of the coming Emira but felt better with the Evora GT 410 Sport which was the last and most improved version....it felt bombproof......furthermore I did not want to wait 1-2 years and to be confronted eventually with possible initial and small quality problems (sorry). And a Porsche would never be the car I would desire.
    11 points
  16. I have to agree with your first point because I'm one of the people that have been wooed away from the German alternatives but I don't consider a GT4 as a boring box either!! I've considered Lotus' plenty of times in the past but no matter what model has been available, nothing really fitted the bill for me. Until the Emira, all previous Lotus models seemed a little too hardcore for road driving and a little too pricy for a track tool so I've always opted for a track car (cheapish) and a sports car for the road. The reason I sold the GT4 in fact was because you just couldn't get the full potential out of it on the road and I couldn't afford to repair it if I crashed it on track! I went from the GT4 to an AMG GTR which was fantastic in nearly all instances but I wouldn't have ever left it anywhere and thus limited it's use to possibly once a week at best during the summer and it was ultimately a very expensive garage queen - which is not what I want either. I think the Emira bridges the gap between a track focused road car and a super car and that's what's drawn me to the brand.
    10 points
  17. Committing to a newly-launched car that's not yet in production and you can't test drive or read press reviews is a big ask and not for everyone. Lotus had a big dilemma between (a) revealing the car when there was enough to show people but it wasn't finished but they could get it visible earlier and gauge demand for the new £100m factory they'd built in order to build an order book and get suppliers/production scheduled, or (b) wait until they had a fully production-ready car with press and demo cars but have much less idea on demand or be able to plan their start of production. It's slightly strange to me that a lot of people are saying it's not fair having to commit with so little info - the simple solution is not to! You don't have to commit now, you could wait until press reviews in Feb/Mar or test drives in Mar/Apr. There is a process Lotus are pursuing, but deposits are still refundable and will be for a while yet, or you can ask to slip down the queue. There are plenty of people who'd like to move up the queue. If you don't want a First Edition car then you're going to have a year or more to decide. If I turn your question around, what is it about your Exige that makes you want to consider replacing it with another 2-seater Lotus that's less hardcore, bigger, heavier, slower, plusher and with more gadgets?
    10 points
  18. Oh, that little hobby!… well here goes… to start the Lotus 49, no need to mention really…
    9 points
  19. Well I loved it today. Stunning from every angle. So much nicer in front of you than in a 2D picture. Scott couldn’t have been more welcoming and helpful. I want one 👍😊
    9 points
  20. In order to process the volumes of customers for the Emira, can we please ask that all deposit holders sit tight and await their phone call from Lotus Customer Services. Please be assured that your date of initial deposit is key here and will remain so, the order of phone calls (while ideally in that order) makes no difference to the priority list that you are on and your place in it. With so many incoming calls, this is delaying us getting in touch with customers so we ask if you could please be patient with us while we work through all priority deposit holders, we will be calling you very soon.
    9 points
  21. You'll be very pleased to know... The Speed Limiter, fitted as standard that comes with Cruise Control (also fitted as standard) is the traditional Speed Limiter and it is not the one required by the Regulation (EU) 2019/2144. With this you can set an upper speed limit for when driving through roadworks etc. Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS) will be offered as optional in the vehicle lifetime and include features such as: Adaptive Cruise Control, Anti-Collision System, Fatigue Alert, Road Sign Information, Adaptive Speed Limiter, Lane Departure Warning, Rear Cross Traffic Alert, Lane Change Assist. This information is from the Emira Head of ADAS, so can be considered very definitive as an answer.
    9 points
  22. Not had my chance to sit in it yet. The colours are somewhat different. Red is more red than we thought. Yellow has a bit of mustard like the Elise. Blue is blue. Dark grey is er, dark. Nimbus is metallic and looks great. The green is metallic nut very very dark. It will appear black in anything but direct sun.
    9 points
  23. I started a new job last November, but due to the Big C I've only recently been able to visit the office (about an hour and a half away). There are 4 directors - all claim to be petrolheads, but have all recently purchased Tesla Model 3s as company cars. It didn't take long before I was asked to take one of them out in the Evora, and the reaction was better than expected. I've not driven a Tesla yet (though have been promised a go in one of the company ones soon) but have been a passenger. The acceleration of the Model 3 performance is quicker than the Lotus, but delivered in a very different way. The first director was impressed with the acceleration of the Lotus all the same, and loved the sound (something he's missed a lot) from the Larini exhaust. When we got to the first sharp corner I turned it at about 60 and blew his mind. Apparently the Tesla wouldn't have managed anywhere near that - even if the car could, you'd be sliding out of the seats apparently. After blasting around some lanes I let him have a drive. He instantly commented on the feedback from the steering, something that is completely lacking in the Tesla. He drove around for about 15 minutes, and when we got home started searching on AutoTrader for a weekend toy after claiming he'd forgotten how fun driving can be. Since then I've taken two of the other directors out, and both had the same reaction - blown away by the cornering and the feedback of the car, and started talking about maybe getting a toy to compliment the EV. It's been a nice confirmation of my feelings on EVs, but also modern cars as a whole - I'd rather stick with my 11 year old car than buy anything new right now (holding out for an Emira test drive). I'm looking forward to trying the Tesla though, just to see what it's actually like.
    8 points
  24. I am finally starting at a new job tomorrow. Maintenance planner for a company that are pretty much the world leaders in carbon fibre rims.
    8 points
  25. I had a response to at least some of my queries which I'm sure Lotus wouldn't mind me sharing here to the benefit of other deposit holders: 1) Will Lotus be making photos of the other paint finishes available ahead of finalisation of configuration. 2) Will samples of the light grey leather interior be available to view ahead of finalisation for configuration. 4) Will you be providing a “UK track safe” exhaust option for the V6? 6) Can you confirm what improvements have been made to the auto box since the Evora 400?
    8 points
  26. I've been to see the car at Central Lotus today too, not much to add to what's been said so far except maybe ... My head was brushing the roof (6'3") and my eyeline was level with the top of the screen, plus the slightly drooping sunvisor didn't help my forwards visibility Nobody knows (not even Scott!) if the seats are 'stuck' in the lowest adjustable position, although everyone I spoke to said they are definitely mounted too high. Scott said he didn't know where the 20mm too high figure came from, he thinks it's more like 30mm. Basically, the seats we are seeing at the moment are wrong, and at 6'3" Scott reckons I won't have a problem. Overall the car looked great. It's much more of a 'model' than the real thing but the overall package looks sufficiently promising to give me the confidence to spec up a FE car and make the next payment. In all honesty I had recently been considering stepping off the queue and waiting for 'own spec' cars but I'm really not sure how long that's going to be? If they can sell fully specced cars for 2 years or so then why would they sell anything cheaper? Could be a very long wait (and maybe even a fruitless one?) for that £60K base car! If only there were some different colours - a simple Ardent Red would suit me just fine EDIT: Just remembered, for those wanting the tan leather, I am happy to report that the tan sample is a really nice colour, no hint of the orangeyness that I've seen on some photos, just a straightforward (and quite rich) tan colour. Spot on
    8 points
  27. 8 points
  28. A little driving on a Saturday night…. (ok it is Friday, but anyway..) 😉
    8 points
  29. https://www.thelotusforums.com/latest-news/lotus-cars-news/lotus-named-manufacturer-of-the-year-at-prestigious-news-uk-motor-awards/
    8 points
  30. Car ready to ship out, got some final photos this evening.
    8 points
  31. Potential yellow customers wanting a metallic flex in there paint believe me it is not a deal breaker. All flat yellow cars here my pics and i sure the Emira will look as good and potentially even better, what more could anyone want?
    8 points
  32. Been in the lucky position to own two lotus cars in yellow and had nothing but pure amazement and love for both the cars from the general public. I am sure the Emira will look stunning in the same colour.
    8 points
  33. Here is a darker version of Nimbus grey, and some pictures with a number plate & silver wheels. Having had a play around, the number plate looks much better on the front attached to the bottom lip, it looks really awkward if positioned within the grill. I've included Tom's samples for Nimbus and Shadow Grey below too, the convex Nimbus sample is really light which makes me think it could be a bright colour like the previous pictures. Looks like green is next on the list!
    8 points
  34. I have been a happy owner to this Esprit
    8 points
  35. Scott is the Head of UK Sales at Lotus and an all round legend 👍
    8 points
  36. This is the green against the darkest green Evora I could find outside...
    8 points
  37. I think the news outlets need to take a long look at themselves. They have been getting worse and worse over recent years generating their own drama which stokes people up and causes issues. They don't report news anymore, they generate it. They also like to have their own agenda pushed. I understand that tabloids lab one way or another as they are largely entertainment but the BBC should be neutral and just report facts. They are totally irresponsible these days, winds me up
    8 points
  38. Knocked out by the car @ bristol deposit getting withdrawn from the cayman GTS! interior quality very good… bar the weird steering wheel plastic thumb controllers which are poor green for me…
    7 points
  39. Hi @EGTE, Just went over to Hendy to look at the Emira - persuaded my better half to come along as I'll eventually need her buy-in to getting one and we came away having placed a deposit on your old car! That was unexpected 😆 I thought I'd be waiting a couple more years for my first Lotus but, with any luck I'll have it in a couple of weeks! I saw you'd upgraded the head unit... would love to hear any history or info on other changes that you've made etc, it looked in beautiful condition. I'm rather excited!
    7 points
  40. So... green. The blue car was just too bright a starting point to show it anywhere close to accurate. So, I tried starting from an image of the Shadow Grey prototype which turned out much better! The darker grey car reflects light much closer to how the green would, which as you can see makes the reflections across the car much more realistic. https://photos.app.goo.gl/vfrRLN7NRUcBtdWv5 Here is where I got up to with the initial renders (starting from the blue car), which will require a bit of squinting but show the car with the black pack, silver wheels and number plates. I might put a bit more work into the above to show various green specs, as looking at both next to each other you can really notice the 'blue car' is a fair bit lower.
    7 points
  41. @emstan, hopefully his helps you 👍
    7 points
  42. Not controversial, but I have a very different perspective in two ways! They have an unprecedented 2700 strong expressions of interest in the UK who can get their deposit back and walk away. There should be every focus on converting those people into committed buyers. Being slack and amateur is a shocking waste of opportunity. If you go back to Matt Windle's strategy video (probably there were a few) it is really compelling about the car, what it stands for and what the new Lotus is going to be. Having humbly been in charge of a much more modest company than Lotus that wrote and sold software, we ran launches and events. Customer events akin to last night's roadshow. If me and my team had put on an event like last night I'd definitely be wanting to do a lot better. It's ok, not a disaster, friendly forgiving audience. Russell Carr's pitch in person was awesome of course, super compelling. Matt Windle from his pitch super compelling. Gavan Kershaw super compelling. It's not beyond the wit of man to find ways of distilling those compelling narratives into an event surely? We could have been blown away. I'm not comparing with Porsche, never done the posh Porsche dealer experience having only owned old ones. Perhaps I'm just in cloud cuckoo land! I just want them to do so well and use this fantastic opportunity to its max.
    7 points
  43. The green is very dark but still luxurious. The Nimbus looks really good and with black pack and black wheels may be a killer combo. I was not blown over by any of the leather but the alcantara with stitching was perfect. The red is very similar to Fire Red on exige.
    7 points
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