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  1. Hi all, Having posted an initial post to ask for some buying advice on Lotus Esprit, I missed the V8 advertised on eBay (not sure of seller was/is a forum member), before I started looking at S4s and GT3. Long story short, I was going to give the S4s a miss because it was advertised at UK Sports Cars and I was concerned about the feedback posted in this forum. Fortunately, I then found out from your reply to my post that it was Nick's car @fflyingdog and decided to buy it after I had a chat with him. After all, the car must have been treasured and cared for if it was part of the family for 17.5 years ! UK Sports Cars was lucky to get hold of Nick's car after he traded it in for an Evora, I definitely would not have bought the car had it not been a car that belongs to a lotus enthusiast. I had never driven one before I bought it, in fact I had not even tested driven one before I picked up Nick's car from the dealership! First impression - immediately understood why people say that you need to have small feet to drive the Esprit ! I have found that the more I drive her, the more I appreciate the driving experience. Of course there are flaws, but I do appreciate its characteristic, it is just raw, quirky and I love the whole analog driving experience. Most importantly, I still love the wedge look of the car after all these years. As a matter of fact, Nick just reminded me that she just turned 25 today! Well, she is all washed and waxed and rest nicely in the garage. It is great to join the lotus ownership family, with people always willing to help and give advice. I already visited Ian @Chillidoggyand have seen possibly one of the best conditioned S4s, Ian definitely has transformed his S4s inside and out ! That is quite a high (and expensive ) benchmark for the list of improvements to make ! Thanks Ian for all the useful advice and recommendation, I just need to enjoy the journey and work my way up the list of things to do. I also had the pleasure of visiting Watford Exotic :-), Gary's knowledge on the esprit was the most impressive and I am so glad that I have someone like Gary to look after my Esprit (thanks Ian) and I am taking the car back once Gary has a free time slot for me! Finally, I have been bugging Nick about all the details on his old mistress, I think he is probably regretting giving his contact details to me now 😉. It was very interesting to learn about the car's history by reading through all Nick's posts in the forum! Apologies for the long introduction post, looking forward to meeting you in the next (hopefully) covid-19 free meet!
    6 points
  2. Evora S goes and a GT430 arrives. The GT430 is my 10th lotus.
    5 points
  3. Oliver would like to send his profound thanks for the pictures you have submitted. I put together a 20 picture Photobook which he received on Saturday morning and is absolutely thrilled with it. I am actually going to send two volumes; the first contained mainly Elite and Eclat pictures, and the second (which I will order this week) will contain predominantly Excels. When I have time, I’ll post both collections on here so you can see them. A quick update on his situation - he is moving home on Thursday now that he can obtain the care he needs, about which he is very pleased. Thanks so much again for your contributions! Cheers, Richard
    4 points
  4. Turbo cars are the equivalent of doing an A level, whereas the S1 is more GCSE! There are so many more systems and complexity on the Turbo cars and it will take much longer to build and refine. It also costs much more to restore, as there are so many more parts. Have a look at the parts manual that gives a clue to the amount of work required. The body is so much more complex with all the extra fairings and skirts. Once you have it in one piece the work really starts. The Turbo adds so many more issues. The car looks great. Not sure what Steve is charging ,but I don’t think I could have afforded to pay him to build my car to my spec. I heard of someone taking their newly purchased Turbo in to a garage with what they thought was a radiator problem. £47k later they had a useable Turbo! You may think this is excessive, but believe me the costs escalate really quickly. It also takes many man hours because its really awkward to work on. I am really looking forward to seeing this car and getting some pics.
    3 points
  5. Post-Wash Tuesday...getting ready for race weekend.....
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  6. For the uninitiated any Esprit sub £10k will spark interest due to the volume of £25k plus cars for sale, for those who know the cost margins just aren’t there at the price they are asking. There’s been few S3’s available at sub £10k recently and during Covid a couple Silver S2’s went for under £8k all needing restoration work. I have probably just sunk £6k into my S2 and still nowhere near at the standard I want and that’s before I consider paintwork which as we all know on these cars isn’t cheap done properly. I think it’s worth about £7k but that’s just my view 🙂 The red one was a pretty decent car and Mark knows the market well. Dave
    2 points
  7. @Fridge no not including the purchase price, but looking back I'm surprised no-one else dared to venture there as the situation wasn't as dire as it was made out. It needed restoring rather than recommissioning. The car is currently painted, chassis stripped and galvanised, I've paid for all the new suspension and brakes as well as all the engine hardware and machining etc..so really everything needs to be put back together. Simple hey 😂 One area that I will save on is the interior - original carpet and leather will remain, just the roof lining to be replaced. I have a fair idea where I'm at - I do know there are no huge surprises as everything is apart. Steve has said the body was excellent to start and also the chassis. Don't get me wrong I wish I could do it myself, i wouldn't have the time and this car deserves more than my first attempt. I admire all the work you guys do. Mind you this isnt my first Turbo Esprit so I have some experience owing them. When you break down the cost over the time period, it's not really any different to paying off a new M3 that will halve in value - whereas I feel like this is money in the bank long term. Key is to keep the modest daily driver. Lex.
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  8. Thank you for saying so. I started out as a complete novice when it came to Esprit's. I had in no way realised what kind of a journey it was going to be and now it would be easier to list what I haven't done, rather than what I have. It's fair to say that I will never recoup the outlay, either. Still, I started this thread so that others may benefit from my experiences, good and bad, and if it's helped, then that's great news. Being a pedantic old sod, the work is never finished, but now it's regular maintenance than major projects. So far, I am very pleased with the engine and gearbox rebuilds. It's now covered 1,300 miles since then. No oil leaks (hallelujah), zero oil consumption, and the engine pulls very well as @slaywill no doubt agree after our little jaunt the other day. If there's any other work of interest I will be posting on here.
    2 points
  9. @Lotusfab I was close to doing an S1 but try and find an original white w/tartan car and to buy an SJ level restored car the initial outlay was too much. I haven't given a budget - I want it done once and done properly for me to enjoy for 40 years..I'm banking on somewhere around 50K pounds, but when you think about it, we are all very lucky our dream cars are relatively cheap to get you hands on. I don't think there is anything short of an F40 that I would prefer over my perfect Esprit. I'm sure you all understand. I do think I got it for a good price in the end for its rarity. The thing with all these cars, once they are taken apart there are no nasty surprises. I dont have the mechanical expertise to do it myself and certainly no-one in Australia could restore this car properly, hence it's with Steve who I believe is the best person to oversee the resto. @LOTUSMAN33you are doing a wonderful through job very much enjoying watching this thread - Looking forward to catching up with you all - the day my car is finished and I come over to collect it. Cheers, Lex
    2 points
  10. I did a 430 upgrade at JUBU this spring/ early Summer and I am totally satisfied with it. It‘s insane fast and works without any problems. They did the 430 upgrade and some other stuff (nitrons, etc.) within one work day. Just have a look to my video about my upgrade-day at JUBU:
    2 points
  11. When I fitted the LED headlamp bulbs on mine I had two of the Cibie lamp units re-silvered by these guys. http://www.chromerestorationspecialist.co.uk/services/headlamp-re-silvering/ Not a cheap options but worth it IMO to pass the MOT and to retain the original look. The company did a fine job, and all done and returned in a couple of (pre-lockdown) weeks. The problem for refurbishing these Cibie lamp units and maybe units like yours is that they have to split the glass lens from the reflector before they can do the re-silvering and that comes with a breakage risk and an extra labour charge on top of the re-silvering. They don't often have lens that break while they split them from the reflector but they did warn of the risk before hand. I'd love to know what other car used those headlamp clips, they seem so expensive, maybe someone else sells them at a better price when it's for a different car. I ended up only replacing a couple of clips that had definitely failed and cleaned the adjusting screws rather than replace them.
    1 point
  12. And look at Excels. Seem to sell easily at £3k to £6k despite needed heaps of work. At least with Esprit you can find buyers at the top end. Excels just don't seem to be able to break five figures for really fine examples. Justin
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  13. I just saw this video posted on the utoob. I imagine its the same. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P3QXcWVYgk&ab_channel=Gary%27sbikeChannel I have wanted to do this to mine, but trying to figure out a method to stop any squeaking and chassis movement.
    1 point
  14. Nice to see the figures and get the confirmation. Even on here a lot of people find it hard to accept that Lotus don't play truthful with the figures. Lovely car, blue and red, a classic combination and it looks superb.
    1 point
  15. I was on the scale today to get the actual weight of the car. 1442 kg with full tank (60l ~ 44kg), handbooks/manuals, first aid kit, etc. If you substract those things you get exactly the 1395 kg mentioned by Lotus. As I was at the workshop of a friend that builds rally and race cars, I also discussed a quick solution to get the exhaust quiet when going on the race track. He will try to build something that can be fitted directly to the tailpipe within some minutes.
    1 point
  16. I love threads like this. I have zero desire and further don't even understand why anyone would want to have LED lights, particularly at the back of the car. I do though enjoy reading the topic and greatly admire the ingenuity and skill of all those doin' the muckin' on tasks like this. Meanwhile, I will go and drive my Lotus - and hope others can see me in the dark. Justin
    1 point
  17. I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
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  18. @Lex Templar I'm not sure if that price includes the purchase price, but I expect doesn't. Speaking from the experience of a thorough restoration of an S1 your budget seems a tad optimistic, especially given it's being done by a commercial outfit, and the engine aspects associated with your car. I've got a spreadsheet of my restoration to the absolute penny. It includes everything, even grit paper and masking tape. Yeah, I'm that sad. But I had to make sure I was completely on top of the costs of mine, as I knew from experience the rebuild was going to be extensive, even more so that my others, and I needed to be able to justify it's overall expenditure without resorting to a finger in the air estimate. I'd have to say though, if you can maintain the budget and thoroughness I'm sure your dry sump Turbo Esprit will be up there with the best of the bunch. As you say, having originality will set it apart. Just expect to have to dig a little deeper (unfortunately). I'm sure Steve will keep you informed of where he's at in the restoration on a regular basis. As there are always surprises in a car restoration. Those challenges are part of the thrill. BTW, don't dis home restorations, we enthusiasts do not charge for our time and effort, and I didn't log mine, but it's been extensive. Unlike my home life, in my business life time is money, and it's spent according to my client's available budget. I'd also invest in a good tool kit and start picking up some home mechanic tips!
    1 point
  19. @jep, the brakes may be more reasonable now if you asked them for a price a few months back... https://www.thelotusforums.com/latest-news/lotus-cars-news/lotus-offer-further-price-reductions-on-brake-and-clutch-kits/
    1 point
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  21. @RobinB5 With regard to autonomous driving and speed limits. My satnav has and indicator for what the speed limit is on the stretch of road that I am driving. Sadly it is a couple of years old so for some roads that indicator is out of date and telling me the wrong speed. And, that is not taking into account any short term changes to the speed limit due to road works and the likes. Systems would need to be developed and put into practice on all roads to take things like this into consideration. If the system is faulty and your autonomous vehicle breaks a speed limit, who is to blame? Who pays the fine? What if it causes an accident?
    1 point
  22. Well, the OP is trying to flip it now as It's on Ebay for £15k https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lotus-Esprit-S3-2-2-Non-turbo-restoration/274528398064?hash=item3feb2aeaf0:g:F8MAAOSw~bBfgbYO From one of his posts above "its not worth what he wants for it" - I'd have to say, It's not worth what he wants for it either. £5k maybe. He is a dealer and is stating: Quotes from the Ebay Ad. Originally owned by Lotus cars (Colin chapmans wife’s car) This car needs a repaint and retrim In places The car does not need full restoration, just paint and a split in drivers seat. 1. Owned by Hazel - the OP saying it was Hazel's car, doesn't mean it was. He hasn't provided any proof for this. 2. Needs more than that. 3. I think it does need a full restore, and it isn't just paint and drivers seat.
    1 point
  23. If i could run an Evora for 1k PA i would be chuffed! coming from a performance BMW so used to the potential for big bills around the corner! Probably more chance of a BMW motor lurching it's self than the Toyota lump so that is one less worry! Trying to be tight on my purchase budget so i can pay in cash and not have a loan/ finance. it is so tempting to just keep clicking on the next page to see the next cars up in price and end up 10k above what i want to spend! ha ha I have been looking at parts prices and it seems as long as i stay away from Lotus main dealer i should be ok. I have a friend who runs a garage so he will fit parts i can buy online (seriously lotus have much cheaper disks and pads for example...assume they are of good quality)and i have a local specialist who has a great reputation for the harder jobs so fingers crossed should be ok. be great if prices started rising straight after i buy one! ha ha! Looking at Elise prices though surely it is only a matter of time before Evora prices settle and then potentially rise? Cheers Paul Did you import your plack from America? (assuming no UK distributer?) I love the simple design of it but i have heard they are loud! I do have a really good custom exhaust shop up the road that could potentially do a similar job but add a resonator to make it a bit quieter and less drone on the motorway. Will do some more research Cheers Paul
    1 point
  24. @Fridgeyes to drivable, I understand it will need time after to get it fully sorted. I imagine it will stay on in the UK for a while to do the rounds before it leaves and Steve can get it refined. Might call on some help though from any willing participants. I am pushing Steve to make this the best one out there (I know there are some strong ones being finished/finished) with a nice mix of an original interior and brand new everything else but using as much existing plastic trim as possible It has all the good bits from factory (white/brown/roof stereo/comps) so it's worth the hefty investment. @LOTUSMAN33sorry to hijack this!
    1 point
  25. Very impressive https://www.thelotusforums.com/latest-news/lotus-cars-news/lotus-invest-further-in-lotus-engineering-and-hethel-site-upgrades/
    1 point
  26. The skeleton is no more: It only took nearly 8 years 3 different CEOs (DB, JMG, PP) and a new ownership...
    1 point
  27. You mentioned earlier that you had a multimeter. Now's the time to set it to resistance and measure the resistance between spade and metalwork as you move the arm. I cant remember which spade is the low fuel switch and which is the guage. It doesn't matter, one should show a nice variable resistance as you move the arm, the other will suddenly switch to near zero resistance. If this doesn't work then it takes you down the route of either replacing the sender or taking it apart to clean it up (there's quite a lot of corrosion in that picture!).
    1 point
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  29. As found First time in daylight
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  30. @Final Editionis still waiting for his, going the other way. Been ordered quite a while, but perhaps not as long. I had to email them last week, as my simple order had been outstanding 3 weeks. They then sent it out. Steve said that they were working 130% (rubbing it in, as my business has had no income since the end of May). I think they've got a dry sump Turbo Esprit in for restoration.
    1 point
  31. I agree @RobinB5. We do need to get back to "making things" however, a lot of what we need in the future will come from "programming systems" as opposed to whittling wood etc. We had the industrial revolution and no we have the digital revolution. However, a lot of what we think as "essential" these days is just a nice to have. For instance, in a Lotus you can have air con. Very simple to do and a simple knob to turn to change the temperature. However, some people think it is essential to have dual zone, or even four zone, climate control. So a hugely more complex solution that requires extra sensors, control boards (i.e. raw materials) so that somebody doesn't have to twist a knob! We call that progress. Our levels of consumption are being driven by our "need" to effectively automate everything or make it so easy we don't need to think about it. I saw at the weekend that recent human evolution has sped up and children these days are being born without wisdom teeth as our food is now so processed it is easier to chew and therefore we don't need them. I'm waiting for the study to confirm that Audi drivers have evolved to the next stage and where born without brains as they don't need one to drive an Audi and certainly don't use one when considering buying one. Even Audi's latest advertising confirms this! So, I believe the future of Lotus is a real concern for the human race. By building cars for the drivers we will ensure that people will still be born with brains (to coordinate the four limbs you need to drive a manual Lotus), all four limbs with working hands and feet attached to connect with the main control surfaces, and fingers to "twiddle the knobs" to make the cabin hotter or colder. Being a Lotus owner certainly shows that you are smarter than the average bear boo boo!
    1 point
  32. I bought it from a Lotus dealer in Worcester, from memory I think it was Graham Williams or something similar. I only sold it when the first Turbo Esprit came out. Not the Essex model. I presume you are going to restore it to its former beauty. If not, let me know. I might be tempted. I spent a few quid looking after it and had Lotus themselves service it.
    1 point
  33. Very like the Sport300 in Black👍 - another Stevens/Thompson beauty😎 thanks
    1 point
  34. This one I had understood that this was made specially for MK after the Elite production had stopped.
    1 point
  35. I found this a while ago, but it looks **** so I couldn’t live with it
    1 point
  36. Yesterday I finally picked up the car and drove it home, 500 km 🙂 What can I say... great car, amazing sound, fun to drive. A good friend of mine drove the second half of the trip and it was outstanding to see and hear the car from outside! On the way home we took the first pictures at the German race track, Hockenheimring. By the way, I will start some kind of a blog (https://evorablog.com) for technical documentations & details about the car and may write some How-To's. First thing to do: getting a new radio that is capable of Apple Car Play 😄
    1 point
  37. For information, in case you're not aware: The digital dash in the style of the S1 (shown on Car SOS) is now available via SJ Sportcars, who are acting as distributers, I believe. Supercool.
    1 point
  38. I reckon Lotus really nailed it with the Exige S3 shape. Here’s a side by side - earliest vs latest. Both look awesome, although would have been better to compare in the same colour.... Still love the original V6 wheels. I know, I’m in the minority...!
    1 point
  39. Action Shots of my Eclat over the years
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  40. The problem with most of these GT/super cars is once you’ve had an Exige, they feel quite devoid of feel
    1 point
  41. I live next to RGB in Bad Abbach, so maybe I would see you on the way to work or when going home 🙂 When you see someone waving wild from a grey Passat B8 or the blue Evora it's me 😄 By the way... I wanted to show some pictures of my old cars: Mazda Miata NA - I did a Roadtrip through Europe with it last year: 1st Nissan S14: 2nd Nissan S14: BMW E91 330d (mapped with 328 hp and 660 NM): Subaru BRZ: Clio 3 RS Rally Car - pretty fast and successful with this car: Unfortunately I parked it in the woods once: BMW E30 318is Rally Car:
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  42. I really love it. Just listening to him talk about what he likes and dislikes really resonates. It should appeal to Lotus owners too as basically I would argue Lotus has followed a very similar design philosophy with no gimmicks. It's why the Evora S1 from 10 years still looks so good and fresh. Compare it to Audi's, BMW's, Merc etc of the same time and there "fashion" styling has well, errr, gone out of fashion! I could listen to Gordon Murray all day. His encyclopedic knowledge of every nut and bolt on the car, every item, just incredible. No flash. No chav. Just brilliant form and practical application. The fan is the only contentious bit but we'll have to wait and see how that ages. I think this is a real classic. I mean, when you get the shots back to the F1 then even now, what, 30 years later, it still just looks OMG drop dead gorgeous. Loved the video. Thanks @au-yt for sharing.
    1 point
  43. It was on 74290 miles in 1995. You said it was still on 74000, so I'm not too sure I'd believe that.
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  44. I think it's because you have come on here asking a lot of questions while saying "im looking at buying it, just to flip it , not my thing,", yet providing nothing really for the members here, who are probably the very people to whom you could "flip" it to. Post some pictures, let us see the car - which you have been asked for a number of times. We still don't know what model car it is. Is it an S3 (normally aspirated) or a Turbo Esprit? The more information you provide, the more information you may well get back.
    1 point
  45. And here she is @jep stunning car
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  46. It’s worth loads - sink as much into it as you can you will make a fortune 🥂
    1 point
  47. I still think the best thing to do Martin, is to post up some photos of the car
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  48. How about you take a different tact and instead of using this website for your own gain, why not use the Classifieds facility on here to offer it to members actually interested in the vehicle instead? I don’t think I’ll be the only one who’ll be a tad frustrated that you’re only here to make money out of the car you mention - this is probably why you’ve had little response to your posts.
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