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  1. Hi Guys, Good news! I went down to the garage today to have another go at getting the seized clutch plate to free up. Started her up and waited half an hour as per @Clive59. I maybe left it a bit too long because it started boiling and overflowed out the header tank! Anyway, after that little setback, tried the 'put it in reverse gear (I was in the garage) then turn the starter motor over' method. After jerking it out of the garage, it finally let go and I could drive it properly. Big relief. I didn't really fancy taking the engine out again. I gave it a small run round the block and everything was OK. Note to self DONT leave it so long before giving it a run. To be fair, its only because of lockdown and getting the Esprit on the road that the Eclat has been neglected. I will have to divide my time more evenly in future. Anyway Many thanks for everybody's imput. I now have a good list of methods if this ever happens in the future. As the Esso ad used to say "Happy motoring".
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  2. Hello, I finally picked up my Fire Red Evora GT430 Sport. Simply Sports Cars tell me I have 1 of 1 such cars in Australia! 😎 Four GT430's made it to Australia.
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  3. Thanks @EGTE I love it. A few more:
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  4. Thanks for posting Frankel article. He does not mention price point. Elise sluggish sales must surely be in part due to near 50k retail tag. Elise S1 was about 25% more than MX5 in 1997. Now it is 100%. Evora suffered similarly. For the switcher, be it up from hot hatch/saloon/Jap coupe or sideways from Porsche et al, Evora in the showroom failed to convince against price asked. It could not win any BHP pub chat either. There has not been anything wrong with the Lotus product these last 15 years. Price is the issue. Either price is more competitive or perceived quality and BHP need to rise to meet oppo. As for a new Elise - either that is very niche (less than 1000 pa over an extended life-span) or price is reduced to within 25% of MX5. Pointless trying to raise perceived quality on a reborn Elise - it should have no interior save the very basics: that is the essence of Elise. Justin
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  5. I've been told a few times that they cant make the Elise cheaper of sell it for more. They actually make very little on each car now which I guess is what has lead to this decisions, they can't continue to sell cars for nothing!
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  6. Back on it's wheels now and moved under it's own steam for the first time in a very long time. Only a few inches back and forth just to test the clutch engagement 😃
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  7. Hi Everyone, I felt it time I introduce myself here. I am a huge Lotus fanatic, it has been in my life since I was born. My dad was the Lotus Cars dealer in Vancouver BC in the 70s & 80s. We have always had a Lotus Car in the garage and now I have 3 and Dad has 1! We really love the early cars, I have a 1969 Europa S2, 1974 Europa TCS & 1983 Turbo Esprit. My Dad has a 1969 Elan+2. We had a lot of fun restoring the Elan+2 as a father son project and I hope to get my TCS and Turbo Esprit back running again this year. The TCS had the engine go and life has been busy and the Turbo Esprit is a recent purchase as a basement find, needing little more than reassembling the engine. Here are some pictures of the stable. I am sure I will be looking for pointers on how to improve the Esprit as I rebuild the engine. Dad also campaigned 3 different Lotus race cars (2-26Rs & 1-47) with his shop and his original business partner own an early Elite as a race car. The 47 was a little rough by the time they had it but a cool car. Cheers, Ross
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  8. Uh No! Not at all not even close. Lotus is being propped by R&D and investment money coming from Geely. Lotus is in no obligation to generate cash at the time being beyond the parameters set by Geely. The Evija won't have to pick up the slack at all. And also at 130 cars over a 2 year production span at 2m a pop it couldn't. In case some haven't noticed, Lotus Engineering is roaring back to life and the Alpine deal is just the tip of the iceberg. Lotus Engineering has become in record time a fully functional unit of Geely R&D, despite not even being in its new digs yet, it is generating its own cashflow. My understanding is that the overhaul required to start production of Type 131 requires that the current production chain to stop, to make way for some tooling. At the time being Elise, Exige and Evora can come down the line indifferently, but Type 131 is going to be a different animal... I heard aluminium intensive body requiring a lot more automation. The new production hall will be fitted for this but considering they are gunning for shitload of units from the get go and other models following within 2 years of Type 131 launch. It made sense to discontinue all three cars at once... Even if i thought that Evora was supposed keep plugging for another two years, Elise and Exige production was supposed to be stopped in 2020 under JMG as the cars are not globally homologated. as far as i understand The JMG's plan is still the backbone of Vision 80/Lotus BP under Geely, however it goes full EV after the first new car produced while JMG was planning for 3 more ICE cars. I can't help but think that at least another sport car will come in hybrid guise though. Geely is investing at a systemic level, leaving no stone unturned. They know pretty well where they want to take the company. Also i can't find any image of it yet but the Lotus factory in Chengdu is ready or thereabout doing preproduction runs, so theSUV can't be far now, it is still in line for a 2022 launch.
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  9. Thanks all. Pics will come after it gets a ceramic coating and a good wash. I'm busy this weekend so it may be some time before I post my own pics. I've ordered a certificate of provenance and I'm told it will state 1 of 1. In the meantime, here's a pic from the dealer
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  10. This thread addresses the bodywork in great detail and is by far the most comprehensive on both this forum and others. I wish it was available before I embarked on my journey. Would have saved me months of frustration, time and cost. This car is a real credit to you Dave. Congratulations.
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  11. All finished and ready for collection on Friday. New GT4 wing with body colour uprights. Decals took some time to arrive but turned out exactly as I was hoping.
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  12. I can add AU59 AHP to the list, Arctic Silver with Paprika insides Owned for just over a year - now with a new clutch to see her through many more years!
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  13. I agree Bibs which is why I think they missed a trick a few years ago when they "dumped" the base model Elise, which was, according to the dealers I spoke to, an "easy" car to sell and ticked the right boxes for those looking for a relatively inexpensive, fun, reliable toy. By taking a more modular approach and allowing customers to "upgrade" their cars as they grew (in prosperity etc) then they could have kept owners for longer and upsold them into higher value models too whilst generating additional income. The issue re Lotus not making much money on the cars now will be partly down to volume - you need to drive the volume to drive efficiency in costs, supply chain, etc. If you don't grow the volume then of course, over time, your unit costs will increase and margins will decrease as the market will struggle to buy at the higher sell costs to maintain the same, or an increased, margin. And this is what has happened to Lotus. Bahahahahaha spent the savings in the cookie jar. JMG came in and cut costs everywhere to keep the roof over their heads, and now, well the volume is not there to generate the cash for expansion AND profits but luckily Geely have a deep pocket or two to tide them over. Whilst the tide is turning over, manufacturing needs to stop (so no more of the old models) to allow the investment in the assembly lines to be made to provide the new tooling for new models etc. It's probably cheaper to do it this way (and quicker) than trying to do partly do it in an active factory environment with inventory still being made. It's brave, but smart business, in my book and will hopefully set up Lotus up for the next 25 years. I still think that with the Type 131, offer a cheap base entry, and allow customers to "upgrade the car" as they own it. What a great way to get people into the showrooms (for the upgrades) and some will choose to upgrade the modules whilst others will upgrade to a whole new car. Has to be win win and a great model to me - but then if I knew what I was talking about I'd be in the industry already!
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  14. Andrew Frankel's take
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  15. A huge thank you to my good friend @CHANGES for taking this one on. Every aspect of the restoration carried out has far exceeded what I thought possible. It is true...this car is my pride and joy, owned for 29 ish years, so want it to be as good as it can be as I only intend doing it the once! The original shut-lines were particularly bad in areas on this one (even allowing for what’s normal), so when i found out this could be corrected then I was more than happy to let Dave work his magic, and then some! The journey so far has been fantastic and I have learned a lot about paint (and the 910) along the way. This is why it pays to entrust certain areas to people with experience, who really know what they are doing, and I was fortunate to be able to engage the very best in the business. Dave will confirm blood, sweat and tears (scraping the underside no doubt) have gone into this one but the end result speaks for itself. Its over to me now and I hope my part of the restoration will compliment the standard achieved. No pressure then! 😁 ....and then its onto the rolling road to see how many horses are still in the stable 😬....but until then....there is work to do! Richard PS....those white BBS are not staying! Got a nice set of Compomotives to go on complete with roof stereo! Just had to be done!
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  16. Part 16 Home stretch .. Well all good things come to an end and it was time to draw a line under this one , The chassis was shot blasted and re- galvanized to give it fresh new look along with decades of future rust protection. Before After Needless to say , other than dimensional check and reaming out the mount points, plus tapping a few threads , that was as far as I went with the chassis on this restoration ... At this point is was passed back to @RichardJGC for him to do the assembly work .. On return, I dropped in the engine and Box which I had rebuilt while customer was fitting up the chassis .. The more observant among you will notice the few belt/tensioner upgrades along with the verniers... I thought these were good additions that the customer requested to refine the older unit.. Finally the parts I had to do were all pieced together and the Esprit shipped back to the customer @RichardJGC for him to complete the project... This was a hard long job, but a pleasure to do, ( with the exception of scaping the bottom ) . Its only when I look back in the pictures and at this thread do I appreciate how fortunate i am to be allowed to do this sort of work for customers .. It really is an honor to be allowed to work on a customers pride and joy and be trusted to do the work required .. Thank you. To close this thread here are a few of the pics showing the point it was passed back to @RichardJGC who will now finish the project..
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  17. The S can use the same skinnier tyres as the N/A, too. We are a few on here with two sets of wheels (18/19 and 19/20). We can also choose to go as wide in the rear as the 400, if need be. Choice is indeed good.
    1 point
  18. Designers love big wheels on cars and the S looks fab. But I do prefer the feel of the NA on the road with the skinnier rubber. All Evora fab! Justin
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  19. I’m the opposite.....I prefer a dark moody shade. Although I like something that changes in sunlight. Thankfully there’s an option for us all😉😎
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  20. so we did 210km this weekend and got 21.6 mpg/ 9.2 kpl. this was alll sorts of mixed driving and tuning. the workshop manual states it will get about 29mpg but that was on a perfect conditions ofcourse.
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  21. Thanks for this. I’m going to fit some basic in line bleed valves in a few locations, my thoughts if I do retain the water heating would be to put one of them under the dashboard as well! I’ll also have one fitted to the radiator top when it goes for refurb, hopefully they can just duplicate the lower drain plug for this but once car assembled going to be hard to access. I recall on both previous Esprits running up to temp with the caps off and trying to squeeze airlocks out all around the engine. The SE had a charge cooler system that was 2 steel expansion tanks (early SE) and the charge cooler one looked full of lovely green coolant. Upon removal, the lower pipe was so full of corrosion, no water was getting to the impeller and it had burned itself out. Pig of an exchange job, the bore of the pipes just not meant to accommodate 15 years of actual use! I think I ran an open thermostat in both SE and S2 upon filling to at least get fluid round and when it cooled replaced with the real ones and tipped up again. I was filling the S2 up quite frequently at one point due to a pump seep so would also disconnect the radiator fill hose on the engine and pour neat antifreeze in to try and top it up. Remarkable amount of fluid went in but the expansion tank always seemed to settle around 2/3 full after dumping some out. One mechanic mentioned the pumps were more like weak impellers in terms of volume they shift so I did consider fitting and electric one instead, this would need to be near the fuel pump to allow a head of water. I did have one of these on a V8 engined car and it was great at taking residual heat out of the system when the engine was off. Body is now ready for lifting, just need to carefully remove the heater plenum, windscreen motor and the bonnet catches but this isn’t holding me up. Loom is loose ready to carefully withdraw. I’m then stuck as I need to sort some storage to allow work to continue on the 2 separate parts of the car and getting 4 people round to my house seems to be mission impossible in early 2021! On a positive note, found my 1/4 inch extender bar wedged into the steering knuckle that I thought I’d lost. Need to tap that out from the other side and body will hopefully just lift off!
    1 point
  22. That’s an interesting question. Maybe not quite the same but I’m currently in the market for a new motorcycle (after lockdown!) and really like the new Triumph 1200 Speed Triple just launched. Triumph is a great British motorcycle brand and make some superb stuff, but it’s no longer built in Hinckley, it’s built in Thailand. I’ve been asking myself whether that really bothers me, and I don’t think it does - I would much prefer it were still built in Hinckley, but the Thai built product is indistinguishable and hasn’t changed the nature of the product in any way. Would I buy a Chinese Elise? Yes, I think I would if it kept it accessible.
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  23. +1 Really well handled drama, lots of parallels to what's going on at the moment too.
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  25. I wouldn't put Pirellis back on my Evora if someone PAID me to, never mind if they were free. PS4S are the best, but I have PS4s on the front (due sizing) and they are still way, way better: all the anti-ackerman, tramlining and aquaplaning all gone and they last way longer, too.
    1 point
  26. Welcome to TLF, Yan. 👋 I think that your car might be even rarer than you imagine. GT430s are rare enough but GT430 Sports are even rarer still. For the 25-30 GT430s that were sold in the UK, there was only 1 (or maybe 2) GT430 Sports sold. So, your car is probably 1 of 1 worldwide. In the world of collecting cars, that makes it pretty unique. If you can, I would plan on holding onto to it for as long as possible. And, obviously, the car doesn't actually exist until we've seen some photos of it. 😉
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  27. PROTEK in Bathgate would be my "go to" and they have lost of Lotus experience.
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  28. Taking an MX5 at £25k (that really is a good price for a great car really) I would say an Elise would need to be at £35k tops for the base engine model but would need aircon, cruise and a radio. I think Lotus made a mistake in getting rid of the base 1.6 (was it) Elise a couple of years ago. Also, never understood why they did not have something like the 1.6 base, with power/handling upgrades that could be bought/added. That would have allowed new owners and used owners the chance to get into a Lotus at a great price point and then to "upgrade" the car as the desire, cash and capability to exploit the performance grew. For me it would have made Lotus THE "for the drivers" brand and would have created a real "club feel" around the Elise and it's owners and a steady potential revenue stream for Lotus and its dealers. I think an approach like this really would set Lotus apart from the competition and of course, when you "catch 'em young" there is the possibility of keeping them long term - so, they could grow into a Lotus SUV (family) and then say a more upmarket too such as Exige or an Evora. Obviously things will be different with the Type 131 but who knows, maybe the approach could be adopted for that model?
    1 point
  29. Yup, a gripping watch. Agreed on it not being my normal subject matter, but seeing the way it was dealt with... A woman asking for HIV/AIDs material from her GP (to help friends) and being told to go away and shut up because it's not something she could catch...
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  31. Picture accidentally taken in selfie mode. Oh wait that was 38 years ago
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  32. Do what you gotta do bud. Sounds like you’ve made your mind up, so go and get that hot hatch that suits your lifestyle right now. And perhaps in a few years you’re ready to change up again and a sports car is back on the table.
    1 point
  33. Thanks Dr Doom, several are absent fully but I’ll keep looking as ideally I want the original type back in the car. Dash metal has been cut to accept replacements so someone was committed..... Heater matrix box manifold thing now out of the car and what appears to be an associate MK3 Cavalier replacement blower unit. I’m not an expert or anything, it just has it written on! The replacement fan casing has been hacked about to mount to the bulkhead. The slider controls were partially connected so even if it worked, the heat or cold output was fixed to one set of vents before. I’m still considering a joint electric blower heater to replace the current arrangement, I won’t install this fan back in anyway in this state, I’d rehouse it as it was just held in with 2X self tappers quite loosely. I can at least see how the airflow now comes in from the bonnet vent and down through the half in / half out the car arrangement and the water drains in case the rain gets in. Also how the air is sucked up to prevent water ingress. The manifold box operates easily but the usual activator stalk has broken for one of the functions. Foam is disintegrated inside the box and it needs the strip down that I’ve viewed on here from Fridge. I may replace the water heated radiator with a modern electric fan run on a separate circuit from the battery but embed it into the existing manifold. Space would be tight as the original fan is outside the air manifold, but I’m also thinking of not reinstalling the 2 face level vents an S2 had (one in the binnacle and one on the dash) and deleting the apertures for these, the dash area it frees up I can install other switches of the same type I need for other functions. The vent system would then effectively be cold or hot blown down to feet or up to windscreen. From memory filling the heating circuit takes some doing and I’m not sure this one has seen water for quite some time. I am not keen to be back into this part of the car ever again, so going to weigh everything up. A very basic electrical heating system appeals at the moment! Still wondering why the body has been off the car in the past and what other things I might discover, been an enjoyable few hours making progress, but keep telling myself any idiot can take the thing apart......
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  34. Apparently from an NHS Nurse: Medical experts were asked if it is time to ease the lockdown. Allergists were in favor of scratching it, but Dermatologists advised not to make any rash moves. Gastroenterologists had sort of a gut feeling about it, but Neurologists thought the government had a lot of nerve. Obstetricians felt certain everyone was laboring under a misconception, while Ophthalmologists considered the idea shortsighted. Many Pathologists yelled, “Over my dead body!” while Pediatricians said, “Oh, grow up!” Psychiatrists thought the whole idea was madness, while Radiologists could see right through it. Surgeons decided to wash their hands of the whole thing and pharmacists claimed it would be a bitter pill to swallow. Plastic Surgeons opined that this proposal would “put a whole new face on the matter.” Podiatrists thought it was a step forward, but Urologists were pissed off at the whole idea. Anaesthesiologists thought the whole idea was a gas, and those lofty Cardiologists didn’t have the heart to say no. In the end, the Proctologists won out, leaving the entire decision up to the asshololes. Brilliant! Cheers, Richard
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  35. Paul. The chassis and mechanicals look in remarkable condition to me. Somebody's definitely been there before for some resto work just by the new nyloc nuts that are visible. Is there any way of getting some kind of 'index' page to the photo's you are linking to ? It's a bit of a pain having to click each photo individually. Or better still, pay Bibs for a membership and upload the photos here for us to all enjoy 🙂 You can add that to the cost itemisation of course! The danger of external linking photos here is that if the external site goes away for any reason, all the references are lost forever and your blog becomes a far less useful. I've seen this happen with a couple of other interesting resto projects both on this site and others.
    1 point
  36. My Evora hasn’t left the garage for 3 months and I haven’t left the house for 2 weeks, so decided we both needed to make an “essential journey”. I’d almost forgotten how much I love driving this car. And again I have people of all ages taking a positive interest.
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  38. I can remember the first day I drove my Evora , I went to pick my little girl from school hadn’t told her what car I had been buying . Now the journey was marred by handbrake not working , however what’s priceless and is stamped on my memory was the loon on my little girls face when we walked back to car from school. Her friends and parents were all gobsmacked and my daughter couldn’t believe it ! So the woes of the handbrake had vanished and seem trivial then 🤫 So as Barry says all cars have their faults lotus is not greater than many other exotic brands , all problems are fixable and generally at decent cost
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  39. Jonathan, I'd consider buying a new loom from SJ Sportscars, or direct from their supplier if you know them. The S2 loom is fine, as was the one for my late S1. It is good quality, and the standard earths on Esprit are fine if you connect and maintain them well. Especially on the S2 as they are grouped in a distinct and easily accessible number of places. As for learning about the electrics, you'll do that even from fitting a new loom. You aren't rewiring the Space Shuttle! Having seen your loom I would do the above, or if set on retaining the original loom get a quotation from an experienced auto-electrician. Otherwise I can guarantee you'll be chasing your tail for months. Life's too short for faffing around on something so fundamental. Secondly, I ran an appropriate gauge 12V feed direct from the battery, with its own fuse, to power the door window motors and lights directly. As well as adding the additional relays to the windows which your harness may already have. I suspect it does. These improve the speed of operation of the drop glass movement and takes the power away from running through the switches and the risk of burning them out. The lights are brighter and operate quickly without pulling all that current through the loom. It is very simple. The S2 has all of the relays mounted in a line under the nose as standard. I don't see any real need to deviate from that set up. The loom is designed with this in mind and they're accessible, and really, how often do you replace a relay? The fusebox in the glove compartment can't be any more accessible surely. Why make things more complicated for yourself?
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  40. Our year old car has had another recall letter drop on the doormat today. That’s the second in recent months.
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  41. James there is nothing wrong in jumping out of a car that doesn’t feel right. Being a past owner of what I sincerely feel was one of the best S1s for sale at the time and looking through the service records and the vast amount of money that had been spent on the car, it is not hard to understand if you buy one of these cars on a budget there can be some expensive bills that will materialise. Most S1s can be in there 4,5,6th ownership and being at a price point where they are affordable to some buyers that sadly don’t give a dam about maintenance it’s just a toy for a jolly. Is a 25k Evora a good buy, possibly if you have deep pockets and the patience to live with and sort out some very annoying problems that can be very costly and for definitely take the enjoyment out the ownership. For me if I was in the market for a S1 would look for a car that and had all the common faults addressed with a good service history to back it up. If a buyer have the patience to wait for a good lotus enthusiast car, this forum is definitely the right place to be looking . They do come along and yes at a premium price but in my mind well worth it.
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  42. At no point did I ever worry about my Evora throwing up an issue, I loved every single mile I drove in it. If I could have avoided selling it I would have. One things is for sure though, I will be getting another at some point - I currently have an S2 Elise, would love a stint in an Exige 350 but if it a choice between that or an Evora, I think it would be the Evora for me! Of course when I'm in a position to get another one, I may be consider the type 131
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  43. James some comments above gives you impression that lotus or maybe just Evora is an owning experience in its own right ? I am about to drive my car on its once a week use, it fills me with excitement but also nervousness as what the car will reveal this time ? What warning light appear , what noises or sounds suddenly get noticed ? what I do concentrate it’s that feeling of enjoyment , the looks from others when driving , the fact I always wished I could drive an exotic car type ! maybe you might return to Evora perhaps at a higher entry level where you could get a car without the heartaches ? Can you lease an Evora ?
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  44. Double and triple checked everything again, poured 10 Liter of 100 ocatne in it and fired it up. No leaks, also no leaks when warm. Those new fuel hoses and fuel cross tube works fine. Painted a line over screws to see if they moved and they didn't. Will look it over again a few times as it drives, but that won't be for a long time yet. So over to something more to keep thing in check. Kind regards, Jacques
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  45. I haven't read this blog (as i'm not really into turbos) but knowing you and having seen how well you did on your S1 Esprit and the pictures of this finished car it looks a really lovely job, I think we both strive for some kind of perfection and its lovely to see how so very very close you have got to perfection. My hat is off to you buddy, well done. Matt
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  46. Echoed - the Michelin’s are superb tyres! @Goatboy - keep the car!!!!! You’ve got new dampers for it after it all 🙂
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  47. And with the power on.....
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  48. Those pics are making Fire Red look amazing. Here's what it looks like taken by a numpty with an iPhone. That's in bright sunshine, looks more like a wine red most of the time.
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  49. 10. Continued.... Your radio will need to be removed, modern ones have clips to push in to release them, you do not have these or cant get it out dont worry, looking at the console around the gearstick, just where the window switch panel joined, of memory you should see two 10mm bolt heads. Remove these bolts, pull the gearstick back towards you as it helps to get the panel out, you can remove this panel with the radio fitted and the vents still attached. Pull the panel towards you as far as you realistically can without feeling any interfierance, Now look at the back of it i.e where it joins the dashboard, you will see a load of wires for the radio. unclip these, and pull the two heater flexi pipes off the back of the plastic vents. Your centre console should now be free. . Please bare in mind my s3 n/a did not have aircon etc so extra things could be attached
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  50. 8. Flip up the glovebox lid and look for the hindges, 2 philips/posi drive screws per hinge and 2 hindges, remove these and store out of the way. The glovebox also houses the two fuse boxes on the esprit, these are held in place by flat blade screws, one either side of the fuse box, unscrew these and push the fuse box backwards out of the way, the glovebox also has an internal cardboard like shell it is held in by flat blade bolts and very small nuts, push the cardboard and you will feel where these are attached, i think most are at the front where it meets the dash. then remove the cardboard shell.
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