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  1. I got my 2021 Evora GT today, my first Lotus! Essex Blue:
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  2. It's an interesting thought... as an example of such a person, I could maybe offer some insight: Sports cars, almost by their very nature, are emotive purchases. There's is very little objective decision making going on. Whisper it very quietly, but some of the thought processes can be deliberately contrary. When buying my first Evora, albeit second hand, there were many options open to me in budget that could potentially have fitted the bill. Most of these were arguably more "complete" cars, but in no way - purely subjectively - did they feel as special, or as good to drive. I am neither a track god, nor the fastest down a B-road - but it did feel better and was more enjoyable than the long list of alternatives I did try. As it was to be a "daily", it needed to be (and this may be an odd thought process for most) semi-practical, and at least liveable with on a day to day basis. I did 48,000 miles in just 30 months, so it certainly worked from that point of view. The Evora was a compromise, sure, but it ticked these boxes and still gave me something that made me smile (read: put a big shit-eating grin on my face), and filled my long held desire to buy a Lotus and not the "pub-chat choice". Yes, I did pay more than a similarly aged and specced Cyaman. The Emira is moving the game on for me. It's undoubtedly going to drive well, looks like a more pleasant place to spend more time without some of the compromises. A lot of the conversation around power, lightness etc makes sense if you are lucky enough that these are your only requisites (over and above the Lotus USPs of handling and ride), so then I can see how the Emira could be missing the mark. And whilst you would expect in a Lotus enthusiasts forum there would be a degree of sadness that these are being slightly side-lined to a more mass market appeal (and I do share some of this feeling - who wouldn't want the Nirvana of an Emira with it's cabin improvements and a lower weight and more power). I'm not sure that this would have been possible without breaking the laws of physics/engineering within a given target price and margin. What the Emira does allow me is to get in to a new Lotus. That looks great, is more than adequately powered against it's brief, is certainly better equipped for daily use. And, for now, it's still not the "pub-chat choice".
    13 points
  3. Dunsfold today For filming!
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  4. 10 points
  5. I really don’t get this thing about bhp it is madness when you think about it, the only car I have owned and used on the track was my S1 Elise and it was nothing short of perfect with 118bhp. 6 months ago I went out with @Bibs in his Evora I have no idea with the mods he has or what bhp it has but I can tell you that was way quick enough for the road and probably most tracks . When I done the lotus academy I was third quickest on the day, then I went around with Alistair McQueen after he had finished his roll up and honestly I reckon he would put an S1 Elise around any track quicker than I could put a 430bhp Evora around it. Valuable lesson leant. that’s why I will go for the i4 and spend any other money on learning how to drive it quickly, also I like the fact that my esprit is a 4 pot and I think Colin and Mike K would approve
    10 points
  6. Just to update everyone, to make the process clearer for all, as of the 22nd July dealerships will be refunding deposits they've taken from Emira customers and you'll be asked to place your deposit centrally via www.lotuscars.com - This is in order to have one order bank for all cars to ensure that the process is followed and all cars are delivered in the order that the deposit was placed. Please be assured that Lotus are aware of when you placed your deposit with the dealer and this will be noted in the central order system. Deposit dates/times WILL be honoured. I hope that clears things up and allays any concerns you may have if you've recently heard from your dealer.
    8 points
  7. Found this video of the launch of the X180 Turbo at Earls Court Motorfair from 1987. It still looks great all these years later.
    7 points
  8. I took a number of pics at the show...and sent them to Andy G at Lotus some years ago as well.
    7 points
  9. Hi Dave, expect the full video in about three weeks. The camera man is very talented, so should be some of the best Esprit footage ever. The two CV owner was able to drive up for the shoot, although he's not nearby. We go through all the differences the Bond cars have from the normal production cars. I managed to pick up a stone chip on the Turbo screen by manoeuvring a few feet behind the filming car at high speed. Worth it to get the footage though. Cameras were mounted inside, outside the cars with a drone doing aerial shots. Can’t wait to see the final cut. Keep an Eye out for Classic and Sports car Bond edition in October. Oh the skis now tested to 80 Mph, with some sharp turns!
    7 points
  10. Even with its doors open, spread wide like wings and all its bling transfers the McLaren only got marginally more attention than my humble Evora.
    7 points
  11. so 3 n abit years ago had to take whats left of dads business on (134 years of family history so no pressure) dad at time in papworth with 4 thingy heart bypass at the age of 88 🙄 poor mum goes too with pancreatic cancer and then well oh dont forget the family windmill !!! (oh the one no one has maintained or raised money for ?) so thats ok it only needs well into 6 figures to fix 😒 uh ?? so today i had a fantastic meeting with a national grant funded organisation that have just taken a huge weight off my shoulders 😊 its not going to be a quick fix but seems help is there 😁 jeez i needed that
    7 points
  12. Lost touch with this thread I’m afraid. Have to pick it up again Did some upgrades on the cooling system
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  13. I found this in Pegwell Bay. Well, dug it up, actually. Along with the remains of the Typhoon that crash landed there.
    6 points
  14. We did a charity run for an animal shelter today and 2 friends came along with there Esprits:
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  15. Adding a few key milestones: 27 April 21: Lotus company update and Emira name announced 27 April 21 - TomE - UK - V6 manual 28 April 21 - JamesDG - UK - V6 manual 30 April 21 - Pugwash - UK V6 manual 15 May 21 - JCR - Undecided 17 May 21 - DarrylV8 - Undecided 20 May 21 - Evotion - V6 Manual 20 May 21 - Evotion - i4 22 May 21 - KennyN - V6 Manual 4 June 21 - DJW - undecided 23 June 21 - KJD - V6 manual 25 Jun 21 - scotty435 - V6 manual 28 June 21 - DaveC72 - i4 6 July 21: Emira reveal at Hethel 6 July 21 - Duncs - V6, but cost dependent. 7 July 21 - Lockey - i4 7 July 21 - freefall_junkie - V6 manual UK 7 July 21 - glen8 - i4 7 July 21 - Al_C - I4 7 July 21 - Neilread - I4 7 July 21 - Philnotts - V6 Manual 7 or 8 July 21 - JJ - Cost dependant 8 July 21: Goodwood Festival of Speed Day 1 (Thursday) 8 July 21 - MJON - i4 8 July 21 - Wake - i4 (V6 cost dependant) 8 July 21 - Johnhoward - V6 Auto 8 July 21 - JimH - i4 9 July 21: Goodwood Festival of Speed Day 2 (Friday) 9 July 21 - Beady - I4 (probably) 9 July 21 (8am) - Beancounter - probably i4, but maybe v6 manual 10 July 21: Goodwood Festival of Speed Day 3 (Saturday) 10 July 21 - Washy - undecided 10 July 21 - Al - completely undecided. 11 July 21: Goodwood Festival of Speed Day 4 (Sunday) 12 July 21: post Goodwood Festival of Speed 12 July 21 - emstan - V6
    6 points
  16. He’s our resident Michelin Man. In fact he should change his username to Bibendum. We’re very lucky to have him.
    6 points
  17. Just completed filming for a youtube video on the Bondvivant channel. Why is it the Turbos and 2 CV are always left out of the Top Gear Bond episodes and all the others? Quick snapshot during a break.
    6 points
  18. Red Bull Racing still whining. They must be really rattled. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57988419 Get over if FFS. Put all your energies into winning the next race.
    5 points
  19. Well this is my latest project, it’s a fire damaged 89 spec Excel SA which arrives this week. If it’s to far gone I will take the engine for my S1 and break but if it looks fixable within some kind of sensible budget then on the road it will go! I loved both of my previous SE’s and found them incredibly rewarding to drive, my wife only drives autos so been keeping my eyes out for ages, never expected to buy a damaged one but the colour just attracted me instantly. I will post more photos this week to get everyone’s views, if anyone has the parts PM me 😉 Does anyone recognise it? I would love to get hold of the original keeper to find out what order the car was in and how this disaster occurred. Looks like the usual carb leaks onto the distributor. From the photos it looked like a well cared for example and has the same mushroom interior I had in my old one. Dave
    5 points
  20. Get the car in the garage! Now get us out to play! Happy pups in if the nag more than the wife 😬 Dave
    5 points
  21. Which I am happy with but Red Bull are not. I suggest that if Red Bull decide to appeal and take action then every driver who has been punted off the track by Max needs to appeal also and with luck, he'll be banned for the season as a result and everyone will be happy and fair justice will have been done. F1 races starts - Max 95, Lewis 276 F1 retirements - Max 20.9%, Lewis 8.7%. F1 licence Points - Max 23. Lewis 8! So Max has done a third of the races of Lewis in his career and has three times as many penalty points to his licence. Well fook me with a large iron pipe. That tells a bloody story as to who is the more reckless, dangerous and unsporting driver if ever there was a story to tell. Has no one ever told Verstappen and Red Bull the parable about "those in glass houses throwing the first stone?"
    5 points
  22. This is the first of the three wheel trolleys I need to make. I had some metal paint kicking around in the garage so I treated it to a coat of paint. I actually bought the paint to paint the front gates but I've been too busy playing cars so the gates still haven't been painted, oh well... The 10" swivel wheels will make it easier to move around on my gravel driveway. This will also be very useful for painting it as I will be able to spin it over and do the underside as well. One down and one to go and then onto the frame to mount the body on.
    5 points
  23. Improving the buying and owning experience was one of the things I was pleased to hear in the Lotus company update a few months ago and Bibs' interview with Matt Windle. They've got to make a step change here, and it's positive that they have a key strategic initiative focused on a new retailing proposition. I guess Lotus taking over control of Emira deposits from dealers is one early part of that. We need to see more about what's planned and some tangible progress. There were some posts a while back about the variable handling of comms with deposit holders, current owners and prospects by dealers and the lack of direction from Lotus on a coordinated approach to the reveal. We can make some allowances for things still being done the "old way" but I'd like to see more evidence of the new way, or at least the plans on what the new way will be. Some of this sales and car collection stuff may feel a bit unnecessary to some. My local VAG dealer can do it for the purchase of my daughter's sub-£10k used VW, so why can't Lotus? They need to define what they want it to be from a buyer perspective (a "customer experience proposition" if we're going to get all business-speak) and then put the training, info, comms mechanisms, materials, processes in place. My hope is that's already being done.
    5 points
  24. Here's my Elite on the 'Alpine' section at Millbrook, fantastic when you get to know it.
    5 points
  25. Yes, our bad but my suggestion of taking them off their boats, sinking their boats (with no-one on them, just to be clear) and returning them to a French beach is the "best" option. If nothing else, the migrants still in France will see a large number being brought back every day - thereby sending a clear message, spend your £3k, enjoy a day on the channel, go back to where you started from £3k poorer! Also, the key thing for me is that rather than giving the French more and more money, THEY, just need to abide by their own and EU rules and STOP them from crossing. We cannot ignore the legislation of the French and the EU and we need to hold them to it.
    5 points
  26. Seriously, even in the tiny market for track cars I'm not sure that many people care who's car is fastest, and let's not forget that the Emira is not aimed at track use. In the real world, on real roads, the huge majority or Emira owners will never ever get anywhere near to using the full capabilities of the car, even at 360bhp and 1500kgs (optioned up car ). I had an Exige 350, it was lovely but it was too fast for the road and for my meagre driving talents, so it felt a bit frustrating at times. However much power you have there will always be someone with more, and the advent of blisteringly fast EVs has made the 'off the line' performance of almost all ICE cars into a complete embarrasment. Lotus have hit it dead right IMO, and the deposits prove it. Provided they keep the pricing real and the quality high then they will have a runaway success on their hands. They will probably release higher power variants later on, but a significant premium, and very few people will buy them.
    5 points
  27. I was one of those persons. I walked past a Porsche and into the Evora (albeit from an Exige). Why you may ask? The Porsche 911 that I drove was great in every way but lacked something that is difficult to articulate. Quick? Yes, but it didn't give me the same feel as the Evora or Exige. To me the 911 felt like a fast Mondeo - it felt artificial. I have a few friends who own 911's and the running costs were absolutely horrendous - every service seemed to cost in excess of 3k. Coil packs seemed to be of particular concern. Finally the Lotus is something that isn't seen on every street corner. Ultimately the success of Porsche has pushed me away from the brand as they are far too common place. I am sure that others will have the opposite opinion. It was a fantastic car - just not for me.
    5 points
  28. Just a quick hello, Recently purchased a naturally aspirated 1987 Lotus Esprit HC and have already sourced some info through the forums so figured I'd join. Car overall is smick and had been restored by the owner a few years ago. Gosh does it turn some heads!That being said, in typical Lotus form I have already encountered some issues. Nothing that couldn't be quickly resolved through some forum digging though!
    4 points
  29. Lotus are trying to convey a positive message, which is that they have grown sales 194% in the US. Why not just put your efforts into thinking "wow, great job Lotus, well done for pushing back into the US and making a start....." It's well documented on here, and anywhere else that reports on Lotus, that Evora sales numbers, in the UK, the US or anywhere else are measured in the tens, or the hundreds, in each geography. So it's not hard to understand why they focus on the % is it? As I said, focus on the positive aspect of the story, and leave the negativity to the politicians. Time to move your argument on, the leaves are starting to settle here and the nights are fair drawing in again.
    4 points
  30. Here are photos from the dealership. How can you not love this car? Never perfect but perfect to me.
    4 points
  31. Actually, it's not. If the figures used are accurate and correct, it is not "spin". A 10% increase is a 10% increase if it is 110 this year and 100 last year, or 1100 this year versus 1000 last year. "Spin" is something that is intentionally misleading, and saying, and being able to support, that your sales are xx% up on a previous period is factual. But then, I know nothing. Anyway, @Frickin_idiot you know I'm the one you're supposed to argue with!
    4 points
  32. Because of the damage to the front mounting point in the bonnet area I have had to redesign the frame to take the stress off that point and also make it easier for me to repair it whilst still being able to rotate the shell. So I've removed the front mounting point off the frame and added a new one that will locate on the front of the footwell... So now the front mounting point is unstressed and I can get at it to repair it. Once I've done that I might refit the mounting point or just leave it off if it seems okay as it is now... That was basically the best part of a days' work on my own. Good job I'm not being paid for this or they'd be moaning about how much it's costing hahaha I haven't decided exactly how I'm going to repair that area around the bobbin. So I'm going to have a think about it...
    4 points
  33. HA! The Power of TLF and it's community is proven yet again! Love it. Sponsors who are enthusiasts and active on the forum.
    4 points
  34. We've got 8 on the shelf... Dave
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  35. I suspect 430 Evora will be THE ONE. It is the most powerful (factory) and easy to identify in the Evora evolution curve. The influencers and journos will be attracted to it - rightly so, I am sure. Likewise GTE but perhaps 430 will fare best. As time goes on, the Sport 410 will also be there. Carbon seats will be a halo feature (standard fit - not sure if any other Evora had them as standard?). Emira can only do good for historic Lotus, cars that have been woefully under-appreciated for far too long. World - welcome to Lotus. Justin
    4 points
  36. I have nearly finished the rotisserie and I tried it out this afternoon. Unlike my e-type which didn't need a full length frame this has all the weight at the bottom of the car so it's quite difficult to rotate it with one person. It is also too big to rotate inside my garage as it hits the garage door openers - first world problems. I have quite a nice tan from all the welding I've been doing and I'm told it should sound like bacon and eggs frying when you're welding but if you'd ever tasted my cooking you'd understand why my welding is so bad! So here it is upside down... I plan on fitting a length of box section between the two trolleys to stabilise it but this was just a trial rotation. The problem with this car is that it's so wide, so even though it appears to be very high (and it is) when it's on its side the side almost touches the horizontal legs of the trolley. If I want to work on the underside then I'm going to have to pull it out of the garage, turn it and then put it back in again. I won't be able to work in the garage with it on its side as I could when I had my e-type but the e-type was only 1.2m wide whereas the Esprit is nearly 2m... I've mounted the frame at 8 points where the body mounts to the chassis and it seems fine, there were no horrible creaking and cracking noises when I rotated it. I think that the only time I will want it on its side will be when I'm stripping the paint and that will be best done outside, so I don't see the height being a major problem. Most of the work I need to do will require the shell inverted so it will at least be at a reasonable height for my poor old back... I've drilled a hole in the outer tube and welded a nut on it and I was planning on using a bolt to lock it at any angle but it isn't going to work I don't think, so I will drill a number of holes in the inner tube and then just stick a bar in it to hold it at the desired position. There's a fair bit of bodywork to do on this car so this will make my life a lot easier as I'm getting a bit long in the tooth to be crawling around on the floor
    4 points
  37. My father and I went out on the Medway marshes when I was a mere stripling with some people from Duxford air museum hunting crashed 2nd world war aircraft parts. After a while I got a bit bored and wandered off looking on my own, amazingly I found something, a 2nd world war 4.5 inch (or such like) live shell. Impressed with my find I lugged it back to the group an showed them my prize. Unfortunately the bomb disposal chap was less than impressed with a young lad grinning from ear to ear holding a lightly fizzing live explosive shell in his arms. The shell was quickly stripped of it's detonator thingy and I was told in no uncertain terms I could not keep it, it was rapidly returned to the gloopy Medway mud. I was not impressed. On the way back someone tripped over something only to find it was the undercarriage from a Messerschmitt BF 109 - some people have all the luck. I also was not allowed on any more jaunts with the group - most unfair.
    4 points
  38. on my way home today thinking i need some milk so either i stop at this petrol station or bp garage m&s, almost past turn in on first station i see's thia gorgeous blonde just wearing a shirt with a belt so disc brakes put to the full test hand brake turn in front of lorry i decide to get my milk from this station and she didnt notice the car at all 😆😄🤣
    4 points
  39. B&C - ask for Jamie. They have been great and everyone says the same thing. Mention Emira202210PCT as a coupon and you get 10% off the Emira!! Only joking about the coupon
    4 points
  40. You are quite correct, and I apologise for getting that wrong. So by doing a 3rd of the races (181 less) Max has managed to rack up c. 30% more licence points than Hamilton to date. Still paints a picture as to maybe who is the more, shall we say, aggressive racer. I am not denying that Max is a talent, but what does piss me off is that he has been treated like he is "special" and he has gotten away with a lot (I am sure a few people, like me, would argue his licence points tally should be higher, but as you say, the referee is always right!) both on and off track already. My particular beef with the situation is the reaction from him, and Red Bull in general, to what, (just by the amount of contention/differing views being expressed everywhere on the subject), was a racing incident and how this has been turned into potential accusations of Hamilton trying to endanger Max's life etc etc. It is, and has been, a crass, unprofessional, unsporting, and emotive response from a race team that has been very quiet (whilst vociferously trying to defend the indefensible at the same time loudly) in the past when their own driver has been the cause of many issues, a couple very, very similar in circumstances to this. The track record speaks for itself. The driver with the most points, the most DNF's, is also the most spoilt, the most uncompromising and the most aggressive. Some are referring to him as a bully on the track, and many drivers have admitted that they give him extra room to preserve there finish or chance of a collision in a race. Max needs to remember the age old adage, of "to finish first, first you need to finish" and Red bull need to wind down the rhetoric given their drivers past misdemeanours and attitude ("I don't need to respect anyone"). I said at the start of this season that the biggest issue Max will face in winning the WDC this year will be Max, and his ability to take the long term view to win the WDC. So far, he is proving he is as rash as ever and that may well lose him the WDC this year, though maybe the outright speed of the RB car this year will negate that. But then like with Hamilton, it will all be about the best car won not the best driver of course
    4 points
  41. Odd isn't it. I guess the Turbos never had the wet nellie dust to elevate them. Back in 2012 when Beaulieu were hosting their Bond exhibition they held a big meet day for any car featured in a Bond film and an enormous number of different marques and models turned up. (Some of which it has to be said were just close relatives not the actual models featured). Anyway from a cast of literally hundreds and despite a choice of lovely Turbos to chose from I was extremely lucky to get the nod as one of just seven cars taken to the house and introduced to Lord Montagu. He was pretty frail and in a wheelchair by then, but still clearly a fan. So a turbo was featured ... but the 2CV still got the public vote as best Bond Car
    4 points
  42. Brilliant and like most level headed F1 enthusiast, journalist, team manager would surely agree a racing incident. 👍
    4 points
  43. From sitting in the car at Goodwood it's certainly easier access than the Evora. As well as the lower and narrower sills, the door opening is also taller. One of the Lotus folks pointed it out. The Emira is marginally lower (1225 versus Evora 1229) but aperture is bigger. You can see the difference in these pics: Emira: Evora:
    4 points
  44. I had forgotten the reaction this car causes, not been able to use it much during Covid, so taking it out in public is a novelty. Took 'Ethel' for a little run into Howth near Dublin yesterday. With the weather in Ireland everyone is out and about enjoying the weather. Lotus' are rare in Ireland and Evora's even more so, don't think I've seen another one here. Everyone we passed was staring, thumbs uping or making positive comments. We nearly caused an accident when the driver of a car was hanging out of his window trying to take a photo. My GF made a comment which summed it up "Why is everyone one sta.... oh of course I forgot which car we are in, and how much attention it gets." Gotta love this car.
    4 points
  45. This is true but how many people are we talking about, and that's the issue. More powerful recent Lotus cars got very expensive and props to those in the position and with the passion to buy one, but sales of 1,500 cars a year have shown not to cover the wage bills etc, hence the Emira which by the evidenced frenzy of deposits is a car which appeals to a bigger market.
    4 points
  46. Interesting to read in Car mag that the Emira's interior is "inspired by the Esprit, with a high centre console..." so I thought I'd "montage" the two cabins. I really enjoy the snug feel of the Esprit's cabin, with "its driver and one selected companion" nestled each side of the chassis tunnel, as well as the higher gearstick position versus the Evora. The Emira looks to have a similar config.
    4 points
  47. 50,000 .. not done much since lockdown started ... only 1,000 miles per year.. but thought I was off to the south of France again soon, they'll let me in but Johnson won't let me back without quarantine & costs. That's a 675 mile blast, with just refuelling stops .. effortless!
    4 points
  48. Mine now for sale and listed on the Forum, offers invited, will be on EBay next week and likely to go to auction at Duxford whenever their next sale is on, September I think, viewings welcome. regards David
    4 points
  49. They also said it was being set up to comply with various emissions regulations, primary goal here is not performance as is the majority of the Emira goals. Argument that it’s beyond most owners is true but also applies to the Elise and just about every fast car. Difference in speed for drivers starting the Lotus Driving Academy in the Elise and the performance they get out of it when they’re finished is huge and usually a real eye opener. It’s all good wanting a slower car plenty to choose there but you have to accept that some people want more performance than they need and can use that’s part of the fun. Plus everyone else is progressing in performance, they are taking their sports cars to new dynamic heights, it’s an amazing era, I would loved to have seen Lotus’s contribution to next level dynamics. I was hoping for a demonstration of Lotus performance potential with some ground breaking new innovations. Last two new Lotus cars have been more about practicality. Necessary but not very exciting. Shame especially now we’re at the end of the ICE road we got Evora part 2 not a super Exige. Your Exige looks 10x better to my eyes. I think you’re in for a shock if you ever parked next to an Emira.
    3 points


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