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  1. I think it may have actually been 1.3 to 0.3, but point still stands basically a second faster.
  2. You're right. I owned a Evora S auto and currently own a 400 auto. I think a lot of people think the 4XX auto is basically a slightly faster shifting S1 auto. Its so much faster you wouldn't even know it was the same gearbox. That combined with the better exhaust note its almost night and day. Its pretty amazing what Lotus did with that torque converter. My only issue with the torque converter on the Emira is how confusing it is having a DCT on the i4 and torque converter on the V6.
  3. Likuid

    The 600hp V6

    The problem from what I hear is that Lotus would have to get the V6 re-federalized if they make any internal changes. That plus I assume its using the Audi (I think) DCT that JUBU sells for like $25k or something for the Evora. As I mentioned in other posts, its unlikely Geely was interested in investing much money into the Emira's powertrain, thus why we are probably stuck with the V6 (for good or bad) as it was in the Evora, I doubt you will see the V6 go higher than 430HP in the Emira unless they can find another gearbox. The AMG is probably their only chance of producing something over 430HP for the Emira.
  4. The 311 used the same V6 with 450HP I believe, but used a sequential gearbox. I don't believe Lotus will take the V6 past 430HP in the Emira with the current gearboxes. Just because Komotec is squeezing 475HP out of it doesn't mean Lotus will. Lotus probably doesn't believe the engine and gearbox are reliable much past that point. Maybe they have something up their sleeve, but to my knowledge any change to the internals of the engine would require re-federalization which is expensive.
  5. Honestly I think it has everything to do with Geely not wanting to invest into the powertrain much. Part of me thinks the only reason they are keeping the V6 is because of the manual option. If Geely gave Lotus the money to put a 500HP engine in the Emira I am sure Lotus would have. When it comes to ICE I think they are working with what they can. The power (or lack there of IMO) is the only reason my name isn't down for an Emira. I love everything else about it. While I doubt they will ever take the V6 beyond 430HP, here's hoping the AMG sees some higher numbers in the future. I may go and try some other non-Lotus cars for awhile and maybe come back home once the Emira matures a bit.
  6. You have to wonder if anything was done with the gear box, either modifying or a different one. Lotus claims the Emira is the car that will bring them more mainstream. A creaky diesel engine gear box from a delivery van isn't really that. People put up with the in the Evora, not sure Joe-Porsche will. If they did modify or replace hopefully it is stronger and allows more potential from the V6 down the road before it leaves the market (or for the after market).
  7. Does the Toyota engine really cost Lotus anymore than the AMG? I would almost think the AMG costs more than the Toyota. Toyota is significantly older tech and much more mass produced. I mean I heard Geely owns 10% of MB, but I wonder if they were able to get the AMG for any significant discount? If the V6 powertrain is exactly the same as the Evora (which I assume it is) why would it be $20k more? It sounds like the AMG has more potential than the Toyota. So why are we paying more for an engine with less potential and possibly costs Lotus less money? I mean this is all very confusing and I hope it is cleared up in September. If the AMG is expected to eventually surpass (and eventually completely replace) the V6 in performance why even bother hamstringing it to be under the V6 to start? Why not just make the AMG the higher performance version from the beginning? Its the more "prestigious" brand and has the more modern transmission (DCT).
  8. I mean he really didn't change that much. Not sure the 4 exhaust or taillight changes add anything, having the body color strip under the black area on the side actually looks pretty good.
  9. The AMG throws a real kink in my plans. I wanted to get a manual Emira, but if the AMG will eventually exceed the V6 in power and completely replace it (which sounds like is the plan someday) I am not sure what to do. If I am losing the manual then I would rather it be DCT than torque converter, but at the same time the sound of the V6 and having one of the last manual production cars that may ever be made is appealing.
  10. Its mounted exactly like the Evora's engine. Yes its mounted transversely so it makes it appear off center.
  11. Likuid

    Lotus Emira

    I just want to say I called it that the AMG may be the "higher end" version and may be the more powerful version over a month ago. I have a feeling Lotus may be attempting to stay vague on power specs and prices, I assume to throw competition off? I can't imagine Lotus doesn't know what kind of power and how much they will be charging yet. However, it is very confusing for the customer.
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    Lotus Emira

    Makes you wonder where Lotus would be if Geely bought them 10 or 15 years ago. At this point makes it hard to justify doing a high HP ICE car when electric is on the horizon. I think this kind of makes my point though, Geely obviously didn't want to invest a ton into the Emira with electric coming soon. Hopefully Lotus will get everything they can out of the AMG before ICE is gone forever. I really wanted manual, but if the AMG is meant to eventually exceed the V6 then I may wait and see. At least the AMG is DCT and not a torque converter.
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    Lotus Emira

    Yeah, I was hoping the top 'o the line Emira was going to get close to the 500HP mark as well. After they said it would be 2-seater only I was hoping that extra space was going to be utilized for more than luggage space, which is what it already essentially was in the Evora for most people anyways. While I understand that they have redesigned certain bits of the chassis its hard not to see the Emira as a re-skinned Evora with more modern looks and a better interior. While I have no issue with that, because the Evora was a great car, offering similar power to the Evora and using the same Toyota V6 and not even attempting to take it beyond what we have already seen is questionable to me. Makes me think very little investment was put into the Emira. I kind of feel Geely doesn't really give a shit about the Emira and probably did not offer a ton of investment for the project, they obviously care more about the electric future and SUVs. While it seems there is some hype behind the Emira, I think once everyone gets used to the looks and new interior they are going to fall back to wanting more performance. From a business stand point I don't understand why Lotus didn't come out with more of the bang when it comes to the performance. Essentially offering comparable power to your competitors doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Lotus isn't Porsche. They don't have dealers everywhere and the brand cache has taken a significant hit over the decades, you need some more bait to bring in people IMO. Its not like the Emira offers more tech the the competition. The looks may help it sell well (for a Lotus) for a year, but just think of how much more interest there would have been if they also clearly beat the competition in performance as well. I have a feeling interest will fall off pretty quickly if its another round of Emira losing to the competition in head-to-head tests and constantly trying to playing catch up just like the Evora. Maybe I am wrong. Hopefully Lotus has some tricks up their sleeve. It reminds me of the Simpson's episode where Lisa creates a new Barbie-like doll that all the girls want and then Barbie comes out with a version with a new hat and nothing else different and no one wants Lisa's doll anymore. "Oooo the Emira looks so great! Lovely interior!" Porsche: "Check out the new Cayman, looks just like the old one, but has a couple more small vents on the side." Everyone: "Emira who?"
  14. I have a feeling that's part of the reason for no targa or convertible was announced. Other part is cost of crash testing. Although I am sure if Emira is big hit Lotus will consider doing a targa or convertible, but maybe would require larger sills?
  15. This is kind of where I am at and probably somewhat had to do with my initial disappointment in the Emira. To me the move from my 400 to the Emira feels like a more horizontal move, based on the current performance numbers we have been given. I might drive me 400 1 or 2 days a week during the driving time of year. For 4 or 5 months of the year it sits because of winter. So while the tech and improved looks are very nice, its still hard to justify right now without also seeing a performance jump. I am sure they will get there eventually with the Emira and maybe that day is the day I put in my order.
  16. Ever since the Evija Lotus has been very vague on performance numbers. Is this some kind of subterfuge or is this them truly not knowing? I find it really hard to believe that with both the Evija and Emira, which have been in development for over 2.5 years, they don't have any performance figures really nailed down? Yes I know the claimed 2000HP of the Evija, but even in some interviews its eluded to that it may end up with more. Now I would be shocked if the Emira V6 had 500HP, but I could see it at least being the 416 of the Evora GT or the 430 of the GT430. Its almost like Lotus doesn't want the competition to know the final numbers.
  17. Likuid

    Lotus Emira

    Car looks great, its specs however are very disappointing and its not a shock Lotus didn't really even talk about them during the presentation. Even they seem embarrassed of them. Nissan 400Z will have 400HP at $30k USD. This is starting at over $80k with less HP and weighs more than an Evora (even if just slightly)? This car should have launched at 450HP at the absolute minimum for the V6. At these specs Lotus is going to get nowhere near their target IMO. Looks and tech only take you so far, I don't see this out performing its rivals and in the end that was the most important thing it needed to do. I know eventually there will be higher HP version, but this is actually worse than I would have even guessed. The good news is I don't feel like I need to sell my Evora anytime soon.
  18. I don't know if I ever seen anyone driving Hethel in sunny weather, so why would today be different?
  19. A few spoilers from these pictures like what the rear and side vents kind of look like, however you still can't tell much. Honestly I don't doubt the car will look good, specs are more of my concern.
  20. It almost looks like it may have venturi tunnels. The side inlets seem to be pretty big and seems to have somewhat large holes in the rear. Not as big as the Evija of course. Could just be pressure outlet (or whatever they are called) behind the rear wheels as well, but they look pretty large.
  21. Likuid

    Lotus Emira

    Looks like cross between Exige V6, Evora and Evija. Yeah, not the greatest. "Not just a sports car, THE sports car." would have been better.
  22. Likuid

    Lotus Emira

    I don't see any shoulder inlets like the Evora, so must be on the side or bottom. Looked like probably side based on the front side teaser we got earlier.
  23. Likuid

    Lotus Emira

    Well honestly if a targa or convertible version is not ready it makes sense for them to say they aren't planning on one. Look at what happened with the Evora, they claimed they would and it never happened. Whindle claimed in that video basically they didn't want to spend time on a targa or convertable right now. It probably will require a modified chassis with possibly larger sills. Since they are trying to make the car more "livable" right now, maybe they are afraid larger sills or something like that would hurt that claim. I guarantee the Emira will get a targa if it sells well. They probably did not want to put the extra engineering in right now. Plus it allows them to double dip later possibly. If someone buys a coupe then a targa comes out in 2 or 3 years and that person would prefer a targa they may be more wiling to upgrade. It's their last ICE, they may milk the Emira as long as they can (at least until 2030 most likely). Plus I also don't know if a targa or convertible requires all new crash testing, it probably does, so makes sense to wait and see how sales are.
  24. Likuid

    Lotus Emira

    I am calling it now. I bet the Emira will look better than the 296 GTB. Of course looks are always subjective and obviously it won't be close to it performance-wise, but I have a feeling the Emira is going to be a very good looking car.
  25. Likuid

    Lotus Emira

    I mean, we really know so little about the Emira most of what we do "know" could be B.S. Maybe Lotus has something up there sleeve we aren't expecting? While maybe unlikely, its possible that the more powerful version of the Emira is the I4. We are all just assuming its the V6 because usually that's the way it is. If its true the I4 may be an AMG and will be DCT only it actually kind of makes sense that the top-of-the-line Emira may be a 4 cylinder. More powerful and possibly lighter. Seems like a Lotus thing to do. Not completely unheard of either, I believe the I4 Turbo version of the Mustang of the same model year was more powerful than the V6 version.
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