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Likuid

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  1. Development may have started, I didn't say it wasn't. However releasing the Evora 410 and Exige 380 and then quickly releasing the GT430 and Exige 430 makes no sense. I mean it could be that Lotus is really just that stupid, I guess I shouldn't discount that, but to me it makes absolutely no sense to release those models so close to each other unless you know that you have to milk as much from this line as quickly as you can. It also makes no sense to completely redesign the front and rear of your car how they did with the 430s unless this design was already underway and was planned for future models, but if Geely said "we want an all new Evora", well then, you might as well start using your new design ASAP and at least get 2 or 3 years out of it. I mean I admit I could easily be wrong, but just seems very weird timing to me.
  2. I don't think its any coincidence that all of a sudden a flood of higher powered versions of the current platforms came out not soon after the Geely acquisition. I have to imagine that Geely told them that its the end of the road for these platforms as they currently are and to squeeze whatever they had left out of them and get them on the market to tide them over until the launch of a new line.
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    Evora GT430

    Honestly Lotus really needs a flagship car. They need a new Esprit. Its a car some people still know from some 70s - 90s pop culture, even if it doesn't have the clout of the others. I really hope Lotus continues with having lower cost cars like the Elise, mid range like the Evora, but IMO they need a higher end car that walks the walk and talks the talk. They need something that really wows the public in some way. Not only to bring attention to their current line, but for their SUV line. You want people to buy Lotus SUVs you got to show them Lotus makes something people know and desire. Like most car brands maybe they wouldn't make much or anything on the Esprit, but hopefully maybe you can make that up in your Elise and SUV sales. I don't know, I hope Geely does something with the brand for once. Them making an SUV, as questionable as it may seem to some of us, also might be a good sign that they plan on taking this serious.
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    Evora GT430

    I do run into some people who have no idea what a Lotus is, but I think the general public in the U.S. still considers them an exotic sports car, mainly because they are very rare and look exotic. At car shows I have had some people make fun of Lotus for its reliability using the Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious joke. I tell them that I haven't had any major issues with any Lotus I have owned. In the end though, IMO the stereotype is absolutely true about Americans. They are HP obsessed. So while my car gets a lot of attention, once they learn how much HP it has many lose interest quickly. To some people its the only number that matters. I am honestly so tired of constantly hearing about Hellcats at car shows I go to.
  5. Some pictures taken during a drive up Michigan's M22.
  6. Had a '13 S IPS and decided to test drive both a manual 400 and auto 400. Was almost sold on the manual and then I tried the auto. Honestly it blew away my S. Shifted way faster and more aggressive and even was enjoyable in full auto, which I never even bothered with on the S.
  7. 0 - 60 in 1.9 seconds (on the base model) 250mph top speed 620 mile range Sweet baby Jesus.
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    Evora GT430

    You can get the GT4 style side scoops in carbon. However the side scoop tunnels on the 400+ (to my knowledge) are bonded to that rear fender body panel. So if someone wanted them to be carbon my only guess is that you would need to somehow de-bond it from the side panel and rebond carbon ones, which may not be possible (no idea). Or someone would have to make an after market fender and side sccop tunnel themselves. I doubt there would be enough interest to get that in-depth with it just for carbon for those tunnels. Maybe it would be possible to do some carbon inlays? Yeah its kind of faking it, but at least it would match rest of the car if you were carboning it out. I know they have carbon wrap as well, not sure if that would work.
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    Evora GT430

    Looks amazing, but man seems they really missed the boat not putting carbon in the side scoop tunnels. That plus no carbon on the engine vent are only two places where carbon should have also been used IMO. Also is HethelSport ever going to make a carbon "hood" in this style where the windshield wiper fluid is?
  10. Mine seems to be rough sometimes at low speed in 1st, but only if in Sport/Race. If its in normal its super smooth. Is it happening in all modes?
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    400 vs S

    This is something I forgot to mention in my post. I first thing I noticed was the steering felt better to me.
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    Evora GT430

    I agree, I like the 410 spoiler better aesthetically, but I also like the 400 spoiler over the S1. I absolutely do not expect everyone to like the look of the 400. Its just when someone posts a comment like hopo I find it bizarre. They are on a Lotus forum telling other owners cars that their cars look like dog breakfast and even admit it will piss people off. I guess should know better by now, this is the internet, nuance and tact aren't really commonplace. You are probably right there. Many of my friends thought I painted my car when I upgraded from an Elise to an Evora S. Then again, most people thought I just got my S1 a paint job when I upgraded to a 400. Your average person won't know the difference. I agree, IMO the S1 was beginning to look dated, which isn't a shock. Its quite an old design now, but I also think that testament to how great he original design was. The 400 I think makes it look like a more aggressive car (some may like the softer look of the S1). Don't get me wrong, I think the GT430 looks great. It is a great blend of the S1's softer design and the 400s more aggressive look. The 400 front is obviously more polarizing than the GT430. The GT430 I think appeals to both sides of the fence more. To be honest I was a bit on the fence with the 400s looks when it was first announced. However once seeing it in person I thought it looked way better. Really that could be said for the S1 as well. Its amazing how different some cars look in person than they do in pictures. Sometimes the opposite is true as well. Have seen some pictures of cars and then saw it in person and was not as impressed. Not sure if its the Lotus design that doesn't always photograph well or if its poor angles of the car.
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    Evora GT430

    Its weird. The only people who tell me my car looks like shit are people on Lotus forums. Go figure.
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    Evora GT430

    When I asked the dealer what the break in period for my 400 was they said essentially "Honestly there really isn't one for road use, just don't track it until after the first scheduled service." Now granted the press cars are obviously tracked, so I guess that's the risk you run when buying a demo car, but I assume the demo cars are still covered under warranty.
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    400 vs S

    I moved from S to 400 in June. FYI my S was an auto and so is the 400. I never drove an S stick, but I did test drive the 400 stick and I thought it was very good. Honestly I don't really feel the difference in the seats, but some people claim the Racaros are better. S Pros: Rides a little better. I have base black leather interior on my 400. Although I feel the interior of the 400 feels more well put together, my S interior looked aesthetically better. 400 Pros: Easier to get in and out of, but honestly I never felt the S was that hard to get in and out of. The 400 auto shifts amazingly fast. Honestly compared to the S it feels like night and day to me. I was leaning more towards to the 400 stick until I drove the auto. More power, but honestly not that noticeable on the low end. Exhaust note blows the S out of the water. I never thought the S sounded as bad as some people claimed, but man the 400 sounds so much better. I think the 400 looks more aggressive and modern, but obviously looks are completely subjective. Just seems better built to me. I had some weird panel gaps and stuff on the S, 400 seems more tightly put together. I don't know if its the newer stereo or how they positioned it, but I can see the screen so much better than in the S which I could barely see. Again, maybe more of a subjective thing, but honestly I hared how they did the grills on the side scoops on the S1. Having it set back into the scoop looks so much better.
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    Evora Sport 410

    I am not always a fan of black cars, especially sports cars, but the Evora 4XX probably looks the best in black.
  17. It is not leather due to their past issues with their leather dash. Its kind of a spongy black covering, not 100% sure what it is. Its not hard plastic. If you have the black leather instead of the alcantara though it doesn't look so bad as it kind of matches the leather in color.
  18. I had a '13 S with the latest TCU firmware and my 400 auto (got in June this year) is very noticeably quicker at up-shifting. The dealer did make it sound like the 400 TCU had been upgraded since launch though. Not sure if downshifts are any different, the S was pretty good at downshifting. That being said I am not familiar with the '15, but I assume it used the same firmware as my '13.
  19. Yes most states have lemon laws, but there are certain criteria that needs to happen to trigger it. It looks like in Indiana any issue within the first 18 months or 18000 miles that doesn't get remedied after 4 attempts or 30 total days that can trigger the lemon law. The good news is as long as the problem happens before the 18 months or 18000 miles it will be covered. So if your supercharger died at 17999 miles and you took it in to get fixed and it kept going bad or didn't get fixed within 30-days total being out of your possession for service you could still be protected even if your car now had 30000 miles. As for the leaking superchargers, my dealer told me when I bought my 400 a few months ago that some of the earlier ones received a bad batch of superchargers. It will be covered under warranty. Mine was a newer '17 and so far no issues.
  20. I had an '05 Elise (manual obviously), an auto '13 Evora S, and about a month ago I got an auto '17 Evora 400. However I test drove both a manual and an auto 400. I test drove the manual first and I really enjoyed it. Felt way better than my Elise ever did. However then a test drove the auto. Coming from an Evora S auto...well honestly made the S feel like crap in both manual mode and full auto mode. Now I have seen some people review the 400 auto and claim it does not shift very fast. I don't know if mine had updated TCU firmware or what but when you are on it I am unsure how much faster it could realistically shift. I mean if you are driving is conservative then yes, it doesn't shift super quick, I assume that's the nature of it and done on purpose. If I am on it and hit the paddle it has shifted within a fraction of a second. Full disclosure, I was never a master at driving manuals, so it definitely shifts faster than I could when I am on it, which is not something I could say about the auto S. The downside of the auto 400 that someone who may track it might not like is that when it shifts at high RPM it does give you a kick in the pants, which may be an issue with cornering. So its not as smooth as maybe some modern dual clutch autos, but I don't have a ton to compare it to. Although I will admit the kick is sometimes fun when accelerating in a straight line. So I really enjoyed the manual and honestly after going from Evora S -> 400 Manual I was starting to thing I wanted to manual. However then going from the Evora S -> 400 Manual -> 400 Auto I quickly changed my mind back. For the kind of driving I enjoy, which sounds similar to yours, the auto just made more sense. I wouldn't concern yourself with resale values, its unlikely the resale value of a manual is going to be WAY more than an auto. You should get what you want. One other thing I will mention with the auto. Is how well it shifts while in sport mode in full auto. The S sucked at this, so I never drove it in this configuration. However the 400 does a very good job at choose what gear to be in and what gear to hold itself in. In fact if you are not a great at driving a manual its probably better than you. I still drive the auto 400 mostly in manual sport mode, but there are situations where I will shift to auto sport. My final statement, I will admit manuals are more engaging and fun, but the older I get I want some practicality, even in a sports car. So I will trade that for the increased fun factor of a manual. Only other thing you may need to accept about driving an auto sometimes is you feel like a pariah on forums such as this when autos are often flippantly dismissed as awful. Obviously a subjective opinion, often framed as fact.
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    Evora GT430

    I like the 430 front and back a little more than the 400/410, but I think 400/410 look better form the side. Picture of mine from a Cars and Coffee this month.
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