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  1. Brilliant work, Mike. Have to commend you on your skills and level of workmanship, a great read from start to finish. Picked up some useful ideas along the way too. About NA Betsy, I couldn't find a thread on it, so I did wonder if you got it done? Or if you still plan to?
  2. Aha! I didn't realise that part had had a poly equivalent made. Thanks for that!
  3. Previously Owned: MY93 Esprit SE Highwing MY98 Esprit V8 GT MY98 Esprit GT3 MY98 Esprit GT3 MY97 Espirt GT3 Passenger/Driven: All my above cars (with Bibs at the wheel) MY86 Esprit Turbo S3 (Evil Dr Fish a.k.a. Rob)* MY8? Esprit Turbo S3 [x 2] (Other group members) MY88 Esprit X180 NA (Bibs' car, best sounding four cylinder Esprit)* MY89 Esprit Turbo (Other group member) MY93 Esprit SE Highwing (LEW Kato's) MY94 Esprit S4 (Dermot's "S4-Sport") MY95 Esprit S4S x 2 (Other group members)* MY97 Esprit GT3 (KarlUK29's Modster) MY97 Esprit GT3 (Red Race Chipped - Other group member) MY99 Esprit Sport 350 (Other group member) MY91 Elan SE (Other club friends)* MY95 Elan S2 (Other club friends)* MY04 Elise 111R (Testing/track day)* MY06 Elise SC (Testing/track day)* MY07 Exige S (Other club friends)* (* Also driven) ...may be some others I've missed!
  4. Ok that's interesting, I didn't realise LE was formed first. My understanding was that the LC division was doing well until the 70's crisis which tanked the market. Following that downturn, the DeLorean project gave the LE side the opportunity to carry the load until that deal soured and unfortunately Chapman passed away prematurely. However, the DeLorean experience gave the LE credibility and when Toyota came into partnership for development projects (such as the MR2) it was a catalyst for wider consultancy work. Moving past the GM buyout years to the Bugatti period, I thought the Elise was very much Romano Artioli's vision of what Lotus should be building as they didn't feel the Elan was worth continuing?
  5. So far as I've been able to find out, there are actually two sets for the ARB poly bushes: (29D) LOTAC 05456 - (I believe this set is for post MY98 V8 and GT3) (29E) LOTAC 05455 - (I believe this set is for pre MY97 all cars) I'm not exactly certain if that distinction is correct, and am trying to find out for sure what the difference is.
  6. I'm not sure how many M600 will be sold without researching it, not so many I assume as it is a 200 grand car, and I know I'd rather spend that money on a McLaren MP4-12C (the engine in which was prototyped from an old Nissan racing block). I only recalled the Audi connection vaguely from a discussion some years ago, that it was a development of an Audi V8 engine, and the current Audi S6/S8 and Gallardo V10s share basically the same block and many cross over comonents. I think that after all these decades of producing great cars with customer engines, no one associates the Lotus brand with engines the way they do Ferrari, Porsche or Lambo. Lotus cars themselves are not usually the most powerful in their class, but seem to have performance to match. That's the brand everyone recognises and is well established, especially in the modern Elise-Evora age, they should continue to play to that natural strength. The car division has always been treated like the least priority in the Lotus group. First it was created to make racing cars for the club circuit, and then was evolved just to fund the racing team. Later the engineering consultancy was the new "jewel in the crown" and the cars were treated as a means to promote that rather than provide customers with a real alternative to the big guns. Maybe this is what Danny Bahar realises needs to change from his experience working with the rivals. Maybe he wants to make Lotus Cars the primary concern and the racing/engineering exist primarily to service its image? If that's the case, then making their own engines is probably the best way to go, as you say.
  7. Whilst I agree with the spirit of your point, I think that Lotus car division has had to constantly evolve and adapt to less than ideal circumstances. In past decades its been more a game of survival than real competition. It may be true in the 80's that the car division could have pushed in that direction after the 900 series matured to establish itself by now as a producer in the same class as Ferrari, Porsche et al. But that boat sailed when they could not pursue the 4.0ltr 908/909 spec V8 for its own sake. Those other manufacturers would have just to put in their premium cars, not necessarily to market the product to others. Consequently, when the 918 did finally come along, it was not specifically made for the Esprit with a dedicated transmission to unleash its true potential. Marketing wise, that was a worse move than had they just used someone elses engine tuned it. It was also unfortunately too late as by then other manufacturers had already invested in their own solutions to have any interest in buying the Lotus twin turbo solution. Add to that Lotus had earlier used the Isuzu solution for the Elan, and therefore had not developed a compact 4 cylinder ideal for the Elise to carry forward a totally in house brand identity. During the last few years with the abandoned Esprit successor, and the management change over, the automotive world has moved on. There is a lot more technology sharing/co-development going on now as a few large groups have bought up the smaller ones. Many modern prestige supercars don't necessarily use their own engines today either, yet can command a premium price, such as the Noble M600 with its Yamaha/Volvo, or Lamborghini Gallardo that had Audi develop an engine. Recently, Lotus have decided to design their own engines as the previous Lexus proposal didn't work out, and hopefully it will be profitable decision. However, I think that the cars new or old are no less or more Lotus because they have their own engine. Whatever has changed in the fortunes of the company, one thing has always been the same: Lotus is about tuning, improving and surpassing with less to achieve more than their rivals.
  8. The drive-by-wire most significantly required a modification to the ECU. Change to steel was definitely associated with lighter weight/strength.
  9. Any reasonably educated Lotus enthusiast can learn this information from substantiated biographies. However, what I don't understand is why the connection to Vauxhall is such a problem. Lotus have never been fanatical about producing their own engines for their road cars. If it was backed and funded by a partner and therefore cost effective, or important from a technology marketing and demonstration point of view, it was done. Otherwise, it was always preferably to buy in someone elses technology and improve it for their own vehicles, rather than waste resources "re-inventing the wheel". That's part of Lotus "DNA" and nothing to be ashamed of.
  10. I haven't seen the film in a long time but I always thought Eleanor was a 1967 Shelby Mustang GT500.
  11. I'm in the UK, Geir. Haven't really frequented the fora until recently so not kept a record of the project online. I've had a custom V8 installation in mind for over 6 years after selling my V8 Esprit. Over that time I have gone from an idea to "simply" rework the standard Lotus 918 into a 4.0ltr NA format, to a Jaguar AJ V8... to an old LT5 Corvette ZR1, and finally to the LS series. I saw what another Lotus owner (Hilly) had done with his Audi V8, but I really preferred the American engines from the 'Vettes. The LS3 is a much simpler, more compact and lightweight option than the old LT5, so I was happy with that. It also has a brutal amount of headroom for tuning, not that it isn't already powerful enough! It's been in the planning and development stages for a couple of years. I'm not as hands on as yourself, so I consulted a specialist about the actual installation. Like yourself, we had to have the adaptor plate, mounts etc. custom fabricated, so only started the first trial fits late last year. I totally understand as I was also quite taken with the aluminium pedals when I first saw them. Interestingly, Lotus went back to a steel pedal box in the later S2 Elise, and the only reason suggested has been it was for weight saving! Part of me wonders if it may have been more of a cost cutting measure. I also looked at having bespoke fittings made up but I've been advised that it is a complex thing to get them to fit and then to work with the Esprit due to the pedal ratios being different. So when I saw your post I was most curious!
  12. Excellent choice of engine/transmission Geir. I'm genuinely intrigued to know how you'll fit the Elise pedal box to the Esprit, as when I looked into this area, it is extraordinarily tricky.
  13. Love the old NSX. This car's styling is looking the right direction, but the nose is far too busy. With styling, proportion is king; with detailing, less is more. Even Lamborghini know not to over-do their overdoing.
  14. For the 918 V8 you'd be looking at about 215kg, and for the 4-cylinder engines you are looking at around 55-60kg less than that - the Charcooler ones being the heavier, the old versions the lighter.
  15. I'm not sure about water droplets giving a good indication, partly due to the mass of water versus a gas, and part due to turbulent effects corrupting uniform flow patterns. I can only go by a wind tunnel smoke tests on similar vehicle body profiles I've seen, and the effect it is there. It would work better on the glass back or louvred versions for much the same reasons those designs naturally produce less drag than the open butressed version of later cars. That tray isn't actually meant as an aerodynamic improvement, and from what I last saw of mine, it isn't shaped as such. It would need to extend all the way to the back to the rear bumper and have a basic volume diffuser to function as such. I believe it's primary function is protective, against water splash up, and general debris. Thanks. I don't believe Elite was ever ported to the consoles. I believe it was only released on home gaming computers and PC versions. I also don't think Elite 2: Frontier made it further than the PC. Just checked and Wikipedia article says there was a Nintendo ES version way back, but mentions nothing else console wise. If you have a PC, there is a good share/freeware homage called Oolite you could try, or better yet, play EgoSoft's X series games. (If you are new to them, best start at X3: Terran Conflict.)
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