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  1. I agree, and furthermore it would appear to make sense for Lotus to cut their teeth on the many and varied new skills, technologies, engineering, manufacturing aspects etc. from producing the Evija and this mid-range transitional model before their entirely new range arrives. Being honest, the MP4-12C is largely forgotten, now, but it gave the McLaren teams the knowledge, experience and underpinnings they needed to go on to create their current well-regarded range (disregarding the current reliability issues, which Lotus cannot afford to emulate given their widespread - however undeserved - reputation). Obviously, it's important for this new model to get it right: it's still got to be a 'Lotus' but also be as competent a daily runner as any Cayman or Boxster; the interior, especially, will be prodded, pushed, pulled and highlighted in pretty much every single review. Lotus will not want to see the words: 'But it's still no Porsche' in regards to this aspect of the car. However, bigger picture and all that - as noted before, the MP4-12C was largely forgotten given what followed; being honest, I think it will be the same for this interim model for Lotus. It basically just needs to play it safe - look good, be dynamically interesting, be a daily driver without serious compromise, and not have any notable flaws. The Alpine A110 has very recently showed us all that a highly-competent, reasonably priced Cayman competitor is entirely achievable. If the new car is Lotus's more exciting version of the Alpine, then they will likely have enough of a success story on their hands, with that and the Evija, to see them through to the genuinely new models. If Lotus are planning a convertible model, too, the aforementioned two models will keep them in the headlights of the motoring press just about long enough to plug the gap until the completely new stuff arrives - just what an interim model 'should' be doing...
  2. Is it pronounced 'toe nail-ey' or 'toe gnarly'?
  3. So, after years upon years of people here berating the embarrassingly behind-the-times interiors, controls, ICE etc., the genuinely difficult access/egress, the lack of equipment compared to the competition, the fact that Lotus' new price points were increasingly leaving them behind, how Porsche and then the Alpine A110 were/are showing the way … you could add allsorts more to this list but let's leave it there … Lotus are apparently building a surprisingly reasonably-priced, medium-sized coupe that will be easy to live with and have a decent interior; probably go, ride and handle in the manner people expect a Lotus to; and, will likely have some cool styling cues from the Evija, pointing the way to future Lotus cars, and... … to read through some comments, here, you'd think that was some kind of disaster. Am I genuinely missing something?
  4. Do you know, that's a decent-looking car too! If Kia's Stinger can achieve a few sales over here, I can see a car like that generating quite a few more - a cut-price RS3 competitor? I've wondered what Lync & Co cars are like since hearing they were 'coming soon' but having something like that in the range, and with an awareness that it shares architecture with Volvo and has development from Polestar … well, they might be off to a good start! As for the engine, next gen Elise/Exige/Evora/Elan anyone? Surely that's a perfect powerplant for any of them!
  5. I know what you're saying but she's become 'the' name for first looks at hypercars and high-end supercars. I'd imagine someone in Lotus's team considered her growing reputation for showcasing these types of vehicles, saw her 1.78 million subscribers on YouTube and thought that's got to be worth 15-20 minutes of our time before the car's loaded up and taken to the next location. I'd rather see the thoughts of former (and current) F1 stars when they actually allow people to drive it at speed. I realise that could be quite a while away yet though!
  6. Sooo... Porsche = perfection TVR = cars still being used in 'Vs tests' despite being launched in 2005, with the company going under in 2006 Lotus = what's the point? Cheers Evo!
  7. I have to say that the new logo strikes me as considerably less stylish than its predecessor - looks bland at the side of many other sports car companies' logos. That font/lettering is just … 'meh'. I wonder whether some owners will retro-fit the badges...
  8. The world's average temperature has been very consistent over the past 2,000 years (as reconstructed through various methods, e.g. ice core samples, sensitive isotope variations etc., all showing very similar results) with all the temperature variations (including the Little Ice Age) falling within less than a 1°C range. There was a gentle rise, following the Little Ice Age. Since 1900, however, that rise has been unprecedented, i.e. there has most certainly not been a gradual rise since the Little Ice Age, and the evidence suggests this very much 'is' to do with anthropogenic CO2 emissions... Once the rise over the past century has been factored in, we have to say that the temperature variations over the past 2,000 years now fall within 1.4°C; that's a colossal difference caused just over the past century alone. This coincides with the sharp rise in CO2 levels. The CO2 levels 'were' at 4% in 2015 (equates to 400ppm); they now look set to top 415ppm in 2019. They were at 369ppm in 2000; 353pppn in 1990; 328ppm in 1980 and at around 300ppm - 3% of the atmosphere - just before 1900. From, 200-1,000 years ago, they fell within a few points of 2.8%; in fact the only other time CO2 levels topped 300ppm/3% of the atmosphere within the past 800,000 years was around 330,000 years ago, which conicided with a global rise in temperature.
  9. Well, we've all had a good chance to pore over the pictures, watch the videos and hear what Lotus, themselves, had to say about the Evija. Now, we all know that this car provides design direction for future models, but what are those direction? What styling, design and engineering cues do you believe we will see on the future models? My guesses would be an increased focus on aerodynamics, especially ground effect and active elements; negative space that supports weight efficiency/the aforementioned aero (the flying/floating wing dash and the floating centre console strike me as something that would look great on pretty much any model); technical elements deliberately left on show, as seen with the glass rear screen (and in the popular exposed gear linkages on current Elises/Exiges); and, a deliberate simplicity in the interiors. Those are very much guesswork, obviously; I'm extremely interested to hear what design cues from the Evija you guys believe will make their way onto the upcoming line-up...
  10. Didn't expect to see anyone do this as a modification! Perhaps a taste of Lotus cars to come...
  11. You've touched on the elephant in the room, which everyone seems to avoid mentioning, at all costs, whenever EVs are discussed. Long before 8-10 years, many batteries are going to hold less charge, drain more quickly and lose available power and range. The car industry is being forced into making vast investments to make the 'electric dream' a reality, and I think one way they intend to recoup that costs is to vastly reduce the lifespan of future models and/or provide £multi-thousand battery replacements, likely with not-inconsiderable fitting fees, not to mention charges for taking away/recycling the old ones. So many (especially younger) people buy cars on hire agreements, far beyond the quality and type of models they would have been buying only a few years ago; I think car manufacturers are counting on future generations keeping cars for 2-6 years and then upgrading. Despite what we hear about battery technologies improving, the second and third owners of many of those cars are in for a shock (if there's enough charge left in their batteries to provide one!)
  12. Bee

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    Gorgeous car! How does it compare with your previous Elise(s)?
  13. It's considerably less of a tall order with the resources of the Geely group behind them. Popham's already stated any Lotus SUV will not just be a relabelled affair, saying that Lotus would need to be involved right from the first designs of the underlying platform, to ensure that Lotus objectives could be met. This would suggest that we are looking at something in 2023-2025, based on a platform being co-developed developed now, most likely Volvo. Volvo, of course, would also benefit from a platform better equipped for ride and handling. Lotus now have access to a huge parts bin/shared R&D in order to ensure great design, ergonomics, ICE, luxury etc. are all at class standard. I think that they've already more than proved that the can do the engineering side of things so ride and handling dynamics will no doubt be damned good; I'd imagine that Lotus will already have certain Porsche models in mind as a benchmark. A modern design, but instantly recognisable as a Lotus, will undoubtedly appeal to the vast SUV market, given that Lotus should already be riding on the wave of some serious marketing hype by that stage, hopefully with a great deal of positive press concerning the Type 130, interim model and the all-new models, which will be coming out around the same time. Let's not forget, also, that heading into the mid 2020's, the steamroller of electrification will be ever more relevant; the number of registrations of electric vehicles in the UK was 3,500 in 2013 and more than 224,000 as of May 2019. What will that figure be in 2025? Lotus appear to be heavily investing in this area, and a cracking electric drivetrain could well be its most essential selling point. Consequently, too, I think that many people will care whether it weighs 1,600kg: that and its sporty aerodynamics (perhaps active, swapping between dynamic downforce and slippery air-streamed) will make a huge difference to the range!
  14. Very, very interesting video from Jaguar, showing the development of the I-Pace. It's left me wondering about what similar processes are going on at Lotus. I really hope they're documenting the process as I'd love to see a record of the immense changes they are going through. I always especially loved the documentary tracking the development of the Elise, and there must be so much exciting work going on at Hethel at the moment! The film has an interesting conclusion, with Ian Callum noting that the I-Pace is the car taking Jaguar forward. The Type 130 is that first step for Lotus, and the interim model is the next; I think we'd all like to see just how they really do this so please, please, please, Lotus, make the film!
  15. Unless Lotus have an enormous surprise ready to spring upon us all, I'd imagine that you'll be waiting for a very long time for the Lotus SUV. They've been pretty clear in saying sports cars first and then other segments. Furthermore, they've said that they would need to be involved, right from the offset, in any design for the underpinnings of a new SUV, were they to use another from the group, in order to ensure it met Lotus's criteria. I think it was Popham who recently said they, ' won't take an existing platform and just try to make a Lotus out of it'. What we 'might' see is SUVs within the group sprinkled with a little Lotus magic, allowing Geely, Volvo etc. to compete in segments where they have not been able to, before now. They could, for example, be developing/co-developing electric drivetrains that might see use throughout the group. Given what's been said, I'd be surprised to see a genuine Lotus SUV before 2023-4. Porsche have already garnered a great deal of expertise in this particular arena so Lotus will need to have 'everything' right when they do launch. There's no doubt, however, that it/they will probably sell in numbers that Lotus have scarcely even imagined in the past.
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