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  1. It's only £18 or £24 per year for membership depending on where you are, which, if you've seen some of the annual fees for other websites [without the literal hive of knowledge that TLF has], is an absolute steal. Looking at it from an altruistic point of view, aside from helping fund a true resource, it's a tiny amount to donate so that your real world knowledge and experience helps others. hard sell deactivated* And yes we know Dave, you're a TNG
  2. Oh no! What did he say? I can't imagine it's because of lack of orders, he makes tanks and panels for all sorts so there must be something specific to Esprit items? Maybe they're more labour intensive because of all the welding, and more difficult to get sealed.
  3. Never! I found a couple more images of one of those factory green S2's. If anyone has an membership it'd be great to see the other 5 images of the car below. I love green, but '70's bathroom green' wouldn't be my first choice of interior colours
  4. Speechless Matt edit - Studying your photos @Matt-watts I noticed your car and mine had almost identical damage on the front bumper! Funny coincidence. Sorry I don't have a better pic...
  5. The Flickr feed I found those KAH photos in had a brief description that said it was a factory demonstrator.
  6. So the three possible greens of the early cars could be Martini [can't find a code ref], Mint L29 and Viper A05. The two colour codes come from the Esprit Registry thread here. I'm dubious about Martini even being a Lotus colour, and maybe there were only two possible greens between 1976 and 1980. Viper seems to be Matt Watt's car colour [the farmyard car], which I would have expected to be Altair Green, but Matt's car does seem to be a slightly paler colour. Martini Green is claimed to be the colour of KAH 530V below. The thing is, the registry above doesn't list Martini Green at all, unless I'm missing it. Which leaves Mint Green as the possible colour of the magazine car, VYW 229S, if that is a factory paint job. The article that the photo is from was the February 1996 issue of Practical Classics, but the car hasn't been taxed since then and it's last V5 was issued in March that year. I wonder does it still exist? It was first reg'd in May 1978 so it's a late number S1. This Europa page has a colour code list that shows the Elan below in L29 Mint Green. It doesn't look at all similar in colour. 366G is listed here [but not pictured] as Mint Green and 'released' 240478. That could tally with the UK Gov data on VYW229S having been first registered in May 78. The page also lists one domestic S2, chassis 403G, and three export S2 cars 615H, 616H and 700H as being Mint Green. Interestingly 329G is listed simply as being metallic Green, that's Matt Watt's car. No other S1 or S2 cars are listed as having been painted any colour green at all. It's possible we already have photos here of the only two green S1 cars that were produced, but I'm not sure because the magazine car is so different to everything else. I think it follows that the 'Martini' green KAH 530V below is actually Mint green. As there was [reportedly] only one domestic green S2, KAH 530V is likely 403G, possibly now in Australia. The project car pictured below came up for sale a few years back. It looks close in colour to KAH 530V [given the KAH photos have long shadows and so unrealistic golden hour warm hue] and to the Elan. It's also LHD and wears a Federal style rear number plate plinth. Could it be one of the three Mint Green export cars? Any thoughts?
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    Esprit Registry

    The spreadsheet seems to be gone from Google again? The message says it's been deleted. For anyone's ref, you are currently reading the new version of the TLF Esprit registry thread, started in 2015. The original Esprit registry thread from 2008 is here. A second new version compiled by forum member LJR provides a pdf file.
  8. @Paul Coleman Oh! I think I have that mag, not sure. Thanks for the steer. I've a feeling that particular green isn't a factory colour. What do you think? If it is I'd love to know the name. @frb that's the one, thanks!
  9. I need to scratch and itch, I've become more and more interested in green Esprits. Factory green I mean [poet], Giugiaro era and specifically S1/S2. Photos of green S1/S2's are exceedingly rare. In fact the only one I've ever seen a picture of was on here and found by someone in a farm yard. @Paul Coleman was it you? That car was restored white, and I can't find the thread now. Have distinct memory of it having no rear running gear and being hoisted and towed by a tractor. That Altair green S3 that may or may not have been Chapman's car doesn't really work as a daydream muse because the S3's styling is different. I'd love to see any pictures of S1's or S2's in any factory green. I'll post a few pics that come up on Google to get the ball rolling. They're all terrible photos, and don't flatter the colour. Some have been colour corrected too, so aren't a true representation. The final photo of an Eclat demonstrates how nice Altair can be on a '70's body. George
  10. Just piecing together final mods on a blast cabinet and the project will kick off again for a final push. the chassis work really took it out of me.
  11. Nice to see this thread back, it's such an interesting read. I'm not a fan of electric parking brakes either, but realise that might just be old grump setting in. For me adding modern tech defeats the purpose of a classic. Maybe I'll recant later, but in the first instance I'd like to experience the Esprit as it was. I'm sorely tempted by the VW brakes, for the weight saving. That aspect makes the electric parking brake potential really interesting too. Not sure what extra components are needed, but the Esprit's twin parking brake cables are heavy, as is the lever. Plus not having to do the extra work to reinforce the body around where the lever mounts... 🤷🏻‍♂️ @910Esprit Steve, sorry for never acknowledging your request for brake dimensions. I either missed that or got sidetracked by my project. I'll be blasting all of my suspension/braking components in the coming weeks so if you [or anyone] still wants any measurements let me know.
  12. Some scurrilous mofo has stolen my name and imagery, and the business details for a garage in NZ, and use them to try and pedal hifi resto videos! I've called the feds. Thanks for the heads up Neil The reason you haven't seen anything for a long while is it's been going on behind the scenes in patron videos. I'm scurrying around in the background trying not to be overwhelmed by too many projects. Work is slowly warming up on the Esprit [and Sprinter, and Hobie Cat, and Mercedes W211, and Mercedes W123]. It'd be funny if it was funny 🤣 The show will come back to Youtube proper soon!
  13. On a flat directly to the right of the fuel pump take off, although I'd guess your mechanical fuel pump take off may be blanked. Look about 8" directly below the foremost spark plug, on the block. I've since been reading 'Coventry Climax Racing Engines: The Definitive Development History', by Des Hammill. It's interesting if halcyon day racing engine development swings your pants. It does detail the changes made to the FWP engine when it was developed for automotive use. The pump was the engine that sparked the interests of Chapman, Kieft et al, and it is the same base unit and a brilliant little engine, but there are a number of things that separate it from the FWA and FWE. There were a lot of simple changes made, displacement, porting, combustion chamber development, billet crank, higher compression, more bearings, distributor spark... nothing that couldn't be replicated, but the modern day problem is the availability and subsequent cost of the developed parts. A hand full of specialists hold all the cards. Making a pump engine sing is a project for the love of the project, rather than in the hope of saving money. But man, have you heard one go?
  14. Saw that engine too just today, it's still for sale. There are a few for sale in fire pump frames with pumps in tact. If you scratch around online it seems it's not uncommon to find these FWP engines modified to close to FWA spec, if not past, for use in replicas and racers. The following text is found in a few places online; "In 1953 it (the FW) was adapted for automotive racing as the 1098 cc FWA retaining the cast crank, three main bearing construction of the FW but with a distributor ignition in place of a magneto, a different camshaft, and a higher, 9.8:1 compression ratio. With a bore of 2.85 inches and a stroke of 2.625 inches, it produced 71 hp (53 kW) and was first used at Le Mans in 1954 by Kieft Cars. After the FWA was introduced, the FW engine was renamed to FWP (Pump)." __ So it doesn't seem like you'd have to do anything more to an FWP, to get it to early FWA spec, than you would to say a BMC A-Series engine that you wanted to build for power. Considering a CC FW in fast road or race spec from a specialist is nearly £6k (and I'd be surprised if they weren't starting with a FWP donor given that there were less than 700* FWA engines produced), the prospect of £400-£600 for a base engine isn't to be sniffed at. I saw a post on a forum from the '00's that said a bulk number of pump engines turned up at Beaulieu back then, and were going for £100 each. *figure is from CC development engineer Walter Hassan's book.
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