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  1. I'll discuss it privately by all means, I have no problem with that (if it's the 'big enough' point you are relying on) but you can't publicise your thinking then when you are questioned on it want to make everything private. I think the logic behind my point was very clear. It was presented to you as fact a page ago and the same approach was carried forward. It was presented in that way because that is how it reads. It's irrelevant now though, you've made your position clear, as have the forum mods. This forum has a particular approach and it is very very difficult to speak against it. As I said above, I take the points made by Bibs on board.
  2. Comments on other forums are exactly that. Not fight stirring,; Pits comment in relation to questioning belief of what is said by other's was disingenuous to those that make such comments. He publicised that thinking, no one else. And clearly others are thinking the same as their comments are far more direct than mine But I take your points on board.
  3. It's nothing to do with conspiracy theories. And certainly not a 'beef' issue that needs dealing with private email. Your previous (public) post asks us to question claims from people ("even if people claim to have heard it direct from the manufacturer"). You are asking us to question people that make these claims so I am asking you if Crouchy's claim is one I need to question. I didn't publicise that thinking, you did so my question is public in response.
  4. Is Crouchy's account one to believe or not then? You initially question the source of the referred to information, then someone comes along with a plausible account so you then take your scepticism to another level and ask readers to not believe everything we are told, even claims which include manufacturer's comment. Such comments from you sound incredibly disingenuous. Very typical modus operandi for this sort of situation.
  5. Lovely looking motor. That finish can be a bugger to keep nice but its a proper looker. I very nearly bought a matt v6 cup back in the day - looking back I probably should have
  6. Understood. Change of heart, we all have those for sure.
  7. Were you not upgrading the powerplant in your existing car? I assume this is a complete change of plan.
  8. Standard fare for V6, 2bular equipped. Noisy.
  9. The price of these cars is down to lotus' current approach to prices; squirting out rebadged/rehashed versions of the same car, very frequently with a large hike in price and little in difference. The buyback price to you is down to a market that is not completely convinced by the lotus approach and consequently, a dealer network struggling to move big ticket plastic at the rate it would like. It was absolutely bound to happen. An evolution of the brand's approach.
  10. Good review GFwilliams. Thanks for spending time writing it. Great pics as always. What makes you say you couldn't create the car by adding parts? I completely understand that in terms of true provenance, that is impossible but would you not be able to add the relevant seats, suspension etc to yours or are you saying that is not possible? It seems a pretty futile exercise bothering to do that but surely it's eminently possible.
  11. Write up these little things that have been done which make it seem greater than the sum of its parts. I'm intrigued.
  12. Got you This very point was discussed at length elsewhere when debating whether the 380s were truly sold out. I argued they were not as selling lots to the dealer network is hardly a car selling out. So now it's up to the network to sell them. And I agree and sympathise with what you say, it's rather disingenuous of the marque.
  13. There's five brand spanker 380 Cups on PH for a start that have been on there for months - I can only see them going in one direction pre sale now that the 430 has been announced and that isn't up.
  14. I very, very much doubt it - we can't be sure until we get to see one but I doubt the changes are at that level.
  15. Lovely looker for sure, really could do with barge board though. It looks incomplete without them.
  16. None of us can truly know but I believe next year will see more in the way of 'new' editions. Could you honestly see the 430 being the end of this? Not a chance. And saying 'but whichever you buy is a good car' is a demonstration of the point being missed (wilfully or otherwise). Lotus have form and 430 is dangerously close to numbers which flow much better from a brand perspective. Spend a ton with them at your peril if current/best is what you seek as I'd expect you could be staring at about 20k every 4 months to preserve the desired status. Or just buy and don't look at the net ? New pulley? 450 Sport / Cup / Hethel?
  17. The noise the current 350 model gbox makes would make you think it's well past it. Noisy.
  18. On the barge boards front, they are pennies for any v6. Got a set of them sat on my garage floor, I'll install them when I've braved the rivnut gun As to Alias asking for a custom clammed 430...just Komo yours. Then you likely have the current MM +2. Yes, that's Model Month. Also Eltech the sides
  19. That assumption on your part. Read the words again, 'based on the other bits that make up the car'. If it was a 100k 'new' (signif platform) Lotus, then that may feel different. Like Esprit v Elise v Exige did. And even if 150, maybe genius. The point I make to Mark is that whilst he may feel that price is the issue, for many it will not be. Its price of that particular item. As an aside to the specificity of that response, I think this should have been the real new Cup, it is more Cup bonkers than the tweaked 360s, 380s, etc. If they all remained Sports, this would have sat on a very lofty perch and consequently been very halo. This is the bonkers type of release the current Cup badge should live on. We like bonkers in this sector more than anything.
  20. It's more than that though. They didn't price me out of a new car in this bracket, what they have done is price me away from this brand. I want something super exciting to replace my current one and that will be a 100+ car, but no longer what Lotus are selling. And that's after owning quite a few of this brand. The 430 is definitely a proper difference power wise so I accept that as an upgrade but I also know how the whole package will feel before even sitting in it based on all the other bits that make up the car. I wait to see how many the dealers buy for stock with interest. Complex sales these 70+ Exiges.
  21. I too think the Lotus brand is cool and have done for many, many years but it has gone in a very strange and confusing direction with the Exige. I understand why they may do this but I don't agree with it long term. The 'two new Exiges' this year doesn't really get anywhere near the confusing mess of different models which are all the same in reality - the biggest *real* change is the current one, charge cooled and that deserves to be seen as quite different. However, it didn't really need 350 Sport, 350 Hethel, 360 Cup, 380 Sport, 380 Cup on its journey there Most of the Cups on the market are 90>92k so I expect that must be optioned a bit then.
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