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That looks fantastic!! Congrats

interesting comparison. The Elise can do anything that you want - I think it more depends where you are mentally on the overall proposition in terms of power / expense etc. Have done Euro trips in my Elise Cup - I even find it fun on the motorway given how much feedback you get. Have driven to the ring with a friend in a 911 Turbo and GT3 and not been dropped on the Autobahn, even if clearly their cars punch much more into 3 figures (am not saying they wouldn't beat me in a drag race - but cruising at speeds which are safe on the Autobahn but would be a serious problem in UK - no issue). With the Elise, it is up to you to very much 'drive' it as opposed to being driven and its fun to have something that you can truly wring out - as opposed to speed being restricted by the environment that you are in. The standard brakes are fantastic - there is absolutely no need four pots on an Elise in any circuit situation - you just need decent pads.

Car running well!

Looking good! i love Goodwood.

Fantastic - definitely living the Lotus dream there! Youre going to have a blast at Imola and Mugello! enjoy

Wow - ok. Nasty crash and clearly wearing harnesses. Happy to stand corrected. Will take it up with Steff next time I see him. Tbh he didn’t actually fit my steering wheel straight last time I was there so perhaps I should have read the tea leaves.

Lol. Given the question was asked, I am just passing on what I was told by a reputable Lotus specialist when I raised the same point. But feel free to put the time into doing your own homework kids. Caveat emptor. On the roll cage vs airbags point - just by simple logic, installing a roll cage in the car is the opposite of air bags - you're installing additional hard and immovable structures in and around the passenger cell that will injure you if you collide with them at speed - and so you probably don't want to mix that with much other than harnesses and a helmet anyway? Most properly caged cars are probably 99% track and if you're going that far with the road compromises, there probably isn't much point in carrying the weight of airbags around with you? Under the circs, it's also a way to claw back some of the weight of cage.

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In effect, the airbags already have this ‘switchable’ feature. The airbags are triggered in these cars by a collision level pull on the inertia reel seatbelts. If you crash whilst using the harnesses, the airbags will not go off.

That's really the issue - the lowest I have seen a decent V6 cup offered was about £42k (I wasn't ready) - but at the moment, with a decent V6S at 34-35 and the cheapest Cup asking over £50 then the maths looks a bit different. So totally GFWilliamsing the cr3p out of a V6S maybe looks like a better trade. Or I just wait.

Interested to get into a V6 Exige. Would be a weekend and fairly regular track car. Had planned to buy a V6 Cup or similar- but when you look at asking prices of currently for sale V6 Cups (albeit none seem to be moving) vs what you can get a decent V6S for, well maybe upgrading a V6S makes more sense. Trying to work out what is required and likely spend. Would be grateful for any thoughts: Well publicised differences V6 Cup vs V6S from the factory (excluding less vital items for this use such as carbon seats, extinguisher, electric cut offs, sound deadening): Baffled sump (approx £600 for the part) - assume this is required and not just window dressing? 2 way nitrons / adjustable arb(s) - £2-4k depending on chosen aftermarket suspension spec T45 roll hoop / harness bar - not sure if retro fit is practical? Harnesses - £200 for bar, approx £300 each side for harnesses Better brake discs and pads - £ subject to spec Geo - maybe £5k total if focused on a cost effective outcome - more if going large (Ohlins etc) Likely upgrades one would want to make to a either a V6 Cup or V6S used on track (appreciate that you can go all GF Williams with mods, but the basic items for longevity and / or practical track use): Gearbox cooler(?) - approx £1k Replace glass engine cover for 350 Sport style louvres for improved heat circulation - approx £1k? Consider gear cables - £? Enlarged fuel tank - approx £800 Latest tyres (Cup 2) The full Alias 23 catalogue!! Is there anything else to immediately think of? Is anyone aware of any other more subtle differences between the Cup and the V6S - suspension bushing, toe links etc? Would welcome any thoughts on specifics or broad approach.

I don’t fully get the argument that the 380 range were the best looking Exiges (unless you own one) - surely the new front clam on the 410/30 is a nice update?

Would you guys be particularly concerned about tracking a ‘sport’ of whichever variety which does not (I believe) have the T45 roll hoop of the Cup models? Looking at the tuning the other way - if you want more power, the KT475 kit on a 410 is meaningfully cheaper than the KT460 kit on a non charge cooled car One further factor is that Lotus anecdotally seem to improve quality and details with every iteration, even if the parts seem broadly the same.

In truth only you can decide. the 250 is always going to offer a different experience to the 430 and vice Versa so you just need to make a call on which journey you want to go on. i think that the torque and additional charisma of the v6 engine does make it a compelling road car - so you could always daily drive the 430 but in the end - this isn’t your last opportunity to own either car what are you hearing about the RRR solution? Any feedback from the gold 260 Cup owner? And no engine mods??!! Brexit doesn’t sound so bad...

Komo Tec’s Facebook page refers to a 285 kit for the 2ZR which is currently in development. in the comments they say it’s a 265 kit with customisable ECU. So assume its the RRR ECU with 2bular / other exhaust, appropriate intake and TUV approval.