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  1. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    Hi Mark, I haven't had mine done yet, its in the pipeline to be done. I have a friend who is a very high level detailer (Salon Prive with Bugatti) and PPF installer who is going to do all my car. I've helped him on jobs and know that the quality films are very expensive and that they will do a template themselves if none are commercially available. This takes more time plus they have to plot it into the software and its not at all cost effective for them to just do a couple of thin strips as a one off. Obviously they will fit it in with another bigger job where possible. He only uses Xpel film, having tried a variety of other very well known makes. He says its the best and is a little thicker than a lot of the others. His requirements were to be high quality on the rolls without faults and blemishes (when protecting a customer Ferrari Pista and the likes) the films handling and usage capabilities and very importantly glue strength / flexibility. It was the devils own job to get re credited by certain manufacturer / suppliers for a faulty £3,000 roll of film - worse still when the replacement was no better. To summarise, it doesn't sound like a bad price at all. Good luck, Paul
  2. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    Like the Carbon scuttle, looks far better than the standard fitment ! Is it bespoke made or more generally available ?
  3. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    The classic answer for you. As much as someone is prepared to pay..... 😉
  4. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    That makes more sense, I only put my moniker next to the first one as it was an Essex Blue car and the original owner said his was the first car off the line. Another owner on here said his 430 was also on the same delivery lorry to Silverstone Lotus with what is my car now. Bibs rightly pointed out the discussion has been had before, it has resurrected due in part to the enquiry by a potential buyer for one and my responses to that. Over the last few years Lotus have produced so many 'Special' and "Limited Editions" as to be bewildering, it's an often scoffed at situation on Pistonheads and other forums. An extra confusion they have created is that some are actually properly sequential numbered editions IE. 25 Lotus Elise S2 Supercharged Jim Clark cars, and many others are not. At a basic level its just sales and marketing for box shifting product and others are made a little more special to justify a higher price for virtually the same commodity. It's nothing new in the car game and Lotus have done it for years. I used to own a Commemorative edition 1974 Lotus Elan +2S 130/5 They were painted exclusively in Black with Gold metal flake roof and unique to the cars matching sills. It was to celebrate Lotus 50 F1 Grand Prix victories. The general belief was they built 50 cars to match the F1 wins - they actually made 85 and mine was no 84. The clincher for me was when I was restoring the car in the late 1980's the car had lost its commemorative Badge. I contacted the factory and they referred me to Peter Day in Cambridge who was an official service agent and one of only two Lotus specialists involved (Miles Wilkins also) with resourcing parts for the Classic Lotus cars at that time. Peter wanted my chassis number as he would not supply the badge without checking my car was indeed a genuine model. It was him who told me it was number 84 of 85 built, that they all went through production and paint together at the factory - no doubt a similar situation to the GT430's being built in 2017 to early 2018.
  5. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    What can’t speak can’t lie ! Looks like typically Lotus, we ran out of those other badges 😁 I’ve owned various Lotus since 1984 the factory has often been inconsistent with trim spec and badging. I see that the silver car is a ‘19’ plate where mine is an October ‘17’ car, another quaint anomaly for the Lotus files. Both cars supplied by Silverstone Lotus too. Did Lotus actually make the target 60 cars ?
  6. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    As I understand it the commemorative badges are all identical saying 1 of 60. By sheer coincidence (I’m the second owner) my car was the first GT430 off the line, so the badge is correct 😉 Or is it like the stopped (analogue) clock that’s right twice a day ?
  7. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    Hello GG, I am a new owner, got mine a few months ago. Mine was for sale at £80,000 and 7,000 miles. I’m surmising you’ve researched the 430 and know there’s only 24 GT versions in the U.K. and 1 430 Sport - if How Many Left can be believed. From what I found they were £112,000 list when launched and seemed to sell for around £120,000 if you added the very few options on them. Which I think was metallic or special colour paint, Sparco seats, aircon & sounds pack, bulkhead sound deadening. The Silverstone car was advertised at £95,000 with around 4,000 miles, the new owner is a member here. They may not have done the ‘Porsche GT & RS thing’ and depreciate very little or become a flippers dream, but that’s all a very managed market. I had a friends 991.2 GT3 RS Weissach for a week, which was a great experience. The key thing is the Evora 430 felt so much like it and in some ways was more involving. No the engine doesn’t rev out to 9000 rpm but my word it feels just as potent even with 70hp less (less weight to shift) and dare I say it sounds better. The only thing I would say is missing for regular road use is the front axle lift option, no doubt not viable with the track specification Ohlins (I’m not an engineer so excuse my lack of knowledge here). I don’t think Lotus have ever offered it so far anyhow No one knows how far Lotus may go with variants of the Emira. It’s over 100kg heavier than a Gt430 to start with and the 400bhp V6. They can put it on a similar diet to the GT430, adding a lot of key carbon panels, lightweight sports seats, lighter forged wheels etc, but 100kg is a lot to try to loose from a vehicle that’s been designed to be more luxurious (for a Lotus) and attractive to more potential buyers. Plus the more exotic the materials the more the price goes up I guess where I’m heading is that we may see these true limited production models hold onto more of their value than the initial drop would suggest. Its a fantastic car and the interior quality is very high, to me it does without any of the unnecessary gadgetry. All new cars are a total tech fest and most of it is a complete distraction to actually driving. Good luck with your searching, you’ve come to the right place. Paul
  8. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    I’m in the Peak District virtually the middle of the country. The Midlands MLOC Forum have a big summer gathering Lotus in the Peak, next year it is going to be back at Chatsworth House which is a stunning location. We also happen to have some super and very scenic roads in this area. Just throwing out an idea there for the other owners. Photo attached of some of the cars on this years classic run.
  9. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    Glad to hear your getting to know the car and enjoying it. I’ve had my Gt430 a couple of months and am thrilled with it. Like yours it’s keeping company with an Elan Sprint. All the best, Paul
  10. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    Marvellous, yes I’ve obviously seen the launch car, since I started looking at and for one. You look like me to be a long time Lotus enthusiast and owner - mind you I have strayed to the dark side and have a Porsche 993 4S, more a true GT than the Lotus’s. I may be selling the Porsche as I can’t easily garage 4 cars !
  11. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    Hi Andy, Thanks for replying, it's interesting to know. Was yours at Lotus Silverstone as well, which colour did you select ? Regards, Paul
  12. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    To add to the above information and introduce myself as the new owner of the first Essex Blue car on the list, purchased from fellow Forum member Mark Allin. A super chap and absolute pleasure to buy the car from, I feel very privileged and proud to be the new custodian. Car number 1 on the list has the dark carbon/polcarbonate rear 1/4 lights, the seats are the thin carbon fibre buckets in black leather/ charcoal Alcantara (I'm not sure if these are the so called Cup or Sparco seats) - hoping someone here can advise me? I'm waiting on a Certificate from Lotus. Rest of the options are aircon, Alpine Nav unit + Sub, cabin sound deadening. Exhaust button enabled and a titanium harness bar with driver harness also fitted - Mark used the car at Spa, Nurburgring and Portimao circuits - I can safely say its run in !
  13. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    I wonder if the other factor is that they were a very high price for Lotus when announced - pitched squarely at Porsche GT3 money - regardless of how many people are actually able to buy a GT3 new from Porsche dealerships. I accept the spec on the GT430 was expensive, with the extra bespoke carbon panels, Ohlins / Eibach suspension, AP J brakes and the titanium exhaust. Plus the tweaks to more bhp. im with the current thinking here that they present better value at the prices mentioned - particularly with the Emira being launched. Lotus can address some of the minor criticisms of Emira around its weight, by doing a Porsche by charging more for less - in a truer Lotus sense by ‘adding lightness’ with carbon panels, non electric sports seats, lighter sports suspension, titanium exhaust, lighter wheels etc. They might just get one down to Evora GT430 weight. How much is one of those going to cost ???
  14. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    It could look stunning - if photographed properly. At the price of all expensive cars it’s worth getting a pro in to do them. PS. I’m not a pro photographer but do have a studio for my own business things. It makes a heck of a difference to selling, having good photos. Even their own garage forecourt in passable weather would provide better pictures, not doing themselves or the owner (if they’re brokering the sale) any favours. EG. My Elan outside the Mill side entrance where my studio is. It's a phone pic too !
  15. OakMan

    TLF GT430 Club

    Pictures are now on Pistonheads of the GT430. Trying to sell a car at £95,000 and they’re poor phone photos that don’t even show the colour (accepting its metallic grey)
  16. Hello,

    New member here but not to Lotus, owned them concurrently since 1984, mostly classic ones.  Enjoy driving them more than primping them 😁

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