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  1. mdavies

    Lotus Emira

    Too many Emira threads to check if posted somewhere already, so I will. The current EVO Email is headed by a pretty decent article that seems to provide all known facts about the Emira. Unsurprisingly it includes spec/performance comparison tables: V6 with the Cayman GTS 4.0 and the AMG with the Alpine 110S and the Cayman S. Perhaps of interest just to the odd one or two here..............
  2. duncx, very briefly as TomE has just covered matters fully, just a "thank you". You illustrated and confirmed the theme of my entire earlier posting and, indeed, of the few words that you chose to extract. Your intention to purchase, and those of the "likes", are no more than conditional - "subject to contract", as an estate agent's board would have it. You imply that you want a decent look at the car - not merely a glimpse from amongst a crowd. Hence, whatever its quality, your viewing has the potential to result in you withdrawing your deposit. Else you would not require a viewing. A very sensible and commendable position to take, if I may say and one I would certainly endorse. Personally I would go further and sign nothing until after at least seeing several road tests and probably insisting on one myself. You and I are on the same spectrum of greys that I referred to.
  3. It’s understandable that some who have placed deposits may be feeling peeved that the roadshow booking process does not appear to distinguish between them and others who may be interested in seeing the Emira. (Yes, I’m one such.) From the perspective of Lotus marketing though, I see little reason for drawing any firm distinction on a “deposit made” basis. A viewing may cause a depositor to request a refund, or someone not having placed a deposit to decide to purchase – and, I suggest, having viewed, being rather more likely to follow through to actually buy than any pre-viewing depositor. There are only shades of grey between them, no black and white. Those who have placed a (non-committing) deposit have already received a considerable benefit: a place in the queue for receiving their car, should they actually buy. Why, prior to any real commitment, should they receive preferential treatment at this stage? It seems a valid observation that giving a viewing to a deposit holder has the potential to discourage an actual purchase whereas one for a non-deposit holder may get Lotus an additional sale! PS: Just received a B&C confirmed viewing slot.
  4. Having made my (lack of) interest point I'd no intention of commenting further but, from a strong field, my clear pick above!
  5. Useful future conversational phrases for owners of pre-Geely models: “Oh, you have one of those Lifestyle things” “No, I have to drive this all by myself” “Nice colour” Afraid I’ve dried up at that. Expect others can do better.
  6. Agreeing that is a likely shortlist for many, I suspect the final choice for those that go for an Emira will not be based so much on explicit, factual or numeric criteria as the “never mind the details, I’d really love to have one of those” factor. Those who pick the Cayman or the F-type will be “being sensible”: going for the well-established, well known, safer choice – albeit with wistful backward glances at the Emira in many cases, thinking “perhaps one day, but I just can’t risk it now”. “Criteria” may put that group fairly close in analysis, but when it comes to head vs heart, they seem pretty far apart to me. So I don’t think the PR that pitches the Emira as being straightforwardly in the same basket and to be compared with “The Others” as being that good a line. I’d have prefered something like “The One You Really Want”.
  7. Suppose many here will know it all, but Evo catching up.......... Current reference in the last para.
  8. mdavies

    Lotus Emira

    Late response as been out but glad to see no pitchforks re my Ferrari fun! Indeed, a HaHa - thanks whoever. Sure great majority here recognise light-hearted casual remarks - long wait until Emira-time!
  9. mdavies

    Lotus Emira

    Unarguable indeed! Thought I saw a certain resemblance................. so you think I won't get away with putting Ferrari badges on my Emira when it arrives?
  10. mdavies

    Lotus Emira

    Remind you of anything currently? Actually a Ferrari 488, from 2015. (Been in trouble about using "wrong thread" - at least I didn't risk putting this on Emira pictures thread!)
  11. Absolutely agree with that anyway, Bibs. No Lotus EV for me whatever its performance! Hopefully a manual Emira will fall into my buying range one day.
  12. A while ago I wrote in this thread about how “quite ordinary” electric cars could, should their drivers wish, potentially embarrass those of us driving what we have thought of as pretty quick, enthusiast's machinery. Sub-McLaren that is. Particularly regarding the “you won’t overtake me” types needing only brief bursts of acceleration in the 40 to 60 mph region to do that in often short overtaking stretches. To any Moderator this is about I.C. drivers dealing with EV’s, not about EV's as such, and is intended for enthusiast I.C. drivers like me. So please do not move it to an EV thread where many of us may not see it - I wouldn’t there. (Sorry, a battle last time!) And the immediate “future of Lotus”, the Emira, is one I see as open to being embarrassed by EVs. Yesterday I walked by a stationary little VW ID.3. It was L-plated and emblazoned with words about some “Automatics Driving School”. (No comment!) From the driving seat someone was seemingly explaining things to a passenger. I reached a busy roundabout and the ID.3 came up silently beside me. It was a modern small roundabout with much of the centre only marked by a slightly roughened surface. The flow from the busy road on the right mostly drove straight over that in almost a straight line at a good speed. Almost no gaps for the ID.3. But no problem - it suddenly disappeared from beside me into a tiny gap and up to the speed of the main flow - apparently near instantly. That burst of acceleration beat “launch controlled” I.C. take-offs I’ve experienced! Just a slight scrabbling of tyres the only drama. Material leaving shovels - no comparison. Some driving lesson! If those bursts can be used at higher speeds, I’ll only be using peak-power approaches to overtaking “little ID.3s”.
  13. Some point-missing re my post it seems. I had thought my underlining would suffice. Quite separately from the future existence of a SUV, about which I make no comment, my post was intended to refer to what I regard, from someone in Windle's position, as a wholly superfluous and ill-advised comment.
  14. Wonder if Radford would be allowed to call it the Emora?
  15. From today's Telegraph report of an interview with WIndle: "Lotus doesn’t call it an SUV, though. Expected to be unveiled later this year, it’s a “lifestyle car” according to Windle. And he doesn’t care what Lotus traditionalists think." How to endear yourself and sell cars? On the other hand it's good to know where one stands............
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