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  1. EVs are central to these thoughts, but viewed from outside and as "things to be dealt with" from the viewpoint of drivers of current “enthusiast’s cars”. Such a car as available to many enthusiasts. Not a super or hyper but looking the part and with a quite decent amount of get up and go - meaningfully more than most traffic met or, more relevantly, caught up with. A Lotus perhaps. Equally, the EVs I have in mind are not those even distantly related to the Evija, but the many that – we are told – will apparently soon form a goodly proportion of traffic. The sort of daily driver that might be purchased after reading “£6,000 subsidy”, by those that otherwise would have driven their ICE equivalent. And, relevant to my thoughts, many by drivers who would much prefer to have an “enthusiasts car” – if only their circumstances were otherwise. Before coming to the issues , I must say that the detail of my topic can only be written about with circumspection and dependence that the intended audience will “know what I mean”. Whatever the motor magazine photos of deserted, well-sighted, swooping stretches of road in remote parts portray, for most of us, most of the time, meaningful enjoyment of our “enthusiast’s car” necessarily involves overtaking “ordinary” cars. After assessing all the factors – including of course that the car to be overtaken is indeed “ordinary” - that is usually no great problem. Except sometimes. When the driver of the ordinary car, despite having been followed at a steady speed from a sensible distance, takes his resentment - or in some cases the belief that an “enthusiast’s car” is an abomination that “shouldn’t be allowed” - to the point of obstructing being overtaken by accelerating from the steady speed as soon as the overtaking starts. Other drivers of the same mindset may fume equally but, knowing that their car is incapable of meaningful acceleration, only express themselves by other forms of attempted communication. Or perhaps control their emotions enough merely to fume inwardly. But impotently. The possibility of such occasional behaviour can usually now be overcome by clean and rapid overtaking, exploiting full performance during the overtake and continuing it sufficiently to get well clear - ‘nuff said I trust. But now EVs. And my first point - need I explain? The seemingly “ordinary” car will be capable of real acceleration. And, as in most cases being driven only short distances - else not being owned - capable of real acceleration repeatedly if the driver wishes. Acceleration in many cases equal – or initially, quite likely greater – than that of the current enthusiast’s car. And often be driven, I am concerned, by a significant and, with today’s commonly held world views, increasing number of those I have described. But no longer impotent, and able to vent their feelings effectively. Which leads to my second point. A new Lotus, to be able to hold its head up, should be a hybrid. A hybrid unconcerned with electric mileage, efficiency, all those things discussed in the EV thread, but rather able to add substantial electric boost when required for short intense periods - and then be recharged by the IC engine, equally rapidly. That means being not any common battery hybrid, but a super-capacitor hybrid. With a push-to-pass button on the steering wheel! An ICAP I will call it. The only thing worth having in the electric future! IMHO, of course.
  2. I found no problem in recently setting up such an arrangement for a future service that will include collection and return of the car. Details important of course - all non-contact, including transfer of keys each way. On returning the car, in my case, parking it inside the garage and connecting the battery charger and exiting the garage without touching anything else - such as the door. Dropping the keys into a box for me to take after he has moved away. Any paperwork to be dealt with appropriately too, e.g. by mail. I also made clear that the driver must be fit and able enough to exit the car inside the garage into a restricted space. Devil in the detail!
  3. If you get to drive an Evora, an immediate simple test for which gear set fitted: Get into top gear, and see if the road speed is 27.5 mph per 1000 rpm (CR), or 37.5mph (original cars, but not given to the road testers). So at 2,000 rpm, either 55mph or 75mph. Yes, that much difference - no mistaking! Be careful: I've had a dealer give me a car for road test, telling me it was a CR. It wasn't and the test was extremely brief!
  4. Re earlier ones, make sure you have researched the two different gearings then available.
  5. No worthwhile basis for a Porsche comparison myself, but I'm looking forward to how the forthcoming Lotus will play into it. Dare I hope it will take the best attributes of each with the performance aspects taken a notch above both by whatever hybrid system when power peaks required?
  6. Nico, as a 2 seater surely room enough. Probably not ideal dynamically, but a 48v battery behind the seats would permit the necessarily hefty cables to the motor generator to be short and direct. The Continental 30Kw system (40 bhp) peaks at 625 amps current - the 48v battery at the front not ideal!
  7. So re the 2020/21 "next one", we've had Phil Popham say "have an IC engine", David McIntyre say "come with an IC engine" and recently Phil Popham say "all have some electrification". (My paraphrasing). Here, NedaSay (I think) was the first to suggest a mild form of hybridisation would be a 48v system on top of an IC engine. Just putting those points together, given that the car will presumably have to span a price/power range as the current Evora did, wouldn't it be fun if the previous Evora 'Sport Option' was resurrected in the form of a 48v power boost on/off switch? Even a "push to pass" button on the steering wheel?! All the statements above would be satisfied. Perhaps fit most of the 48v system in place whether optioned or not - just add bigger batteries and a switch to charge ££££ more.
  8. Thanks, Nico, for addressing my basic question, rather than the confusing mush from Autocar that I had already criticised. Your explanation rationalises why the posts prior to mine were essentially "free-floating" and hence so varied. It remains my belief that two new cars are still "in the works", one sort of Evija-ish in appearance for a reveal late 2020 and availability 2021, and one at an unknown stage of development, but I suspect at least at a concept stage.
  9. I'm hoping for some clarification about the forgoing discussion by asking just what is being discussed? Last night I commented that Autocar had written a mishmash article, painting the heading Esprit across words (and picture) that were far more relevant to the "Evora replacement/stop gap" 2 seater, coming "soonish". And precious little to do with a future Esprit, coming in some longer time. What has been said here since, across the posts, has not made that distinction clear to me - an "it" has been mentioned - but what is "it"? My belief is that there are two quite separate and distinct new cars in the works. The first, and the only one worth discussion, rather than speculation, is that intended to address the price range of the current Evora, perhaps £70K - £110K and built using its chassis. And a future car needed by Lotus to replace the Evora, IMO. Prices significantly above £100K and McLaren comparisons are irrelevant to that car. Autocar mentions the Evora chassis and a Toyota-related V6 plus a hybrid something, and Evija-like bodywork. I don't see a price below £100K as unachievable for such a thing, even with added toys. Autocar's mentions of a new riveted chassis and a new range are perhaps indeed a basis for an Esprit, of who knows what shape, but the two quite separate in my mind - am I right?
  10. "It will come with an internal combustion engine" As I understand it, hybrids have one of those...........So no new information. Now had a chance to read the Autocar article properly. Seems to me a mishmash of references to the 2 seater based on the Evora chassis, and a future Esprit. I'm guessing - guessing- more the next 2 seater than the Esprit, despite the assumptions of the other thread. But WDIK. Finally "it will come with"......... slightly unusual phrasing to my mind. Something wrong with a simple "have"?
  11. Jonny, thanks for the info - not aware of that Esprit thread. However the Autocar info covers more than the Esprit and is truly well referenced on the Future of Lotus thread - IMO. Certainly more in the article than that Autocar "Esprit" image. (Your previous post re delay etc refers.) No typos or concerns! I was really surprised to see nothing on this thread and tried to be a little entertaining about it, that's all!
  12. OK, not hallucinating.
  13. Was I hallucinating? At Sainsbury's magazine shelves? The new Autocar? Cover and major feature on the new Esprit and the new Ehatever? Hybrid/hybrids, I'm not sure one or both, but something. I looked in here hoping to find some clarification as, frankly, what I thought as much of a read as fair without actually buying left me confused - but find I'm talking to myself. Huge "Autocar image", else I'd have bought it, but a lot from Popham - or someone - that I've not seen before. Electrification certainly. Perhaps I've been working too hard..................... but I will confess that something said in confidence to me - respected absolutely of course - is now one of Sainsbury's offerings.
  14. Despite my "cars list" showing long term Lotus support, I feel no awkwardness in posting here what seems to be a new video out today. The Evija is so far outside both my interest and my finances that I stand detached from it. Being a member of the £2m car class would do nothing for my interest in the Evija; it would though take me well beyond merely viewing a video on the Czinger 21C. Modern engineering indeed, whatever the Evija does or does not offer in that respect.
  15. Apologies for intruding on a serious discussion between well-informed people, but informative re EV's. And, for me anyway, a bit of a laugh this morning.
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