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  1. Apple CarPlay, Android Auto and satellite navigation, Bluetooth and USB/12v sockets are not the same as a 10-channel/340W premium audio system.  Every car will come with the 10 inch display not every car will with the premium audio. for all I know the base sound system will be an unbranded/Alpine sourced 4 channel stereo

  2. The company did not say that 1260 kg is the lightest the car can be, it is only the homologation weight they want to be at. There's a fair bit of faffing  around with weight in GT4,  on behalf of manufacturer that is, and in order to make the car compoetitive vis a vis the BOP, that's why the Camaro is lighter on paper than the carbon intensive 570R...

  3. On 08/09/2021 at 10:51, Techyd said:

    Great to see Albon being signed up to Williams for next year 🙂 

    Yes he 's a very fast driver in a serene environment, he's very methodical and should have had a few more podiums if not a win by now if Redbull had not had cold feet. His arrival at Williams will bring a driver that I believe to be as competitive as George on a good day and also he can bring sponsorship to them which is clearly not the main motivation at Williams to hire him but when he joined Alpha Tauri, Albon brought on board two significant sponsorships from Thailand: Moose ciders and PTT lubricants, these companies would not look out of place at Williams,

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  4. On 11/09/2021 at 01:47, Greg | ValetPro said:

    What does this mean?  "*Subject to balance of performance"  statement on the linked article based on some performance spec of the Emira GT3 https://www.thelotusforums.com/latest-news/motorsport-news/lotus-motorsport-division-expands-global-commitment-with-emira-gt4-race-car/   

    Is this like saying no comment?  ie Keeping hp quite until its released?

    I am pleased to see it has the V6 engine.

    The balance of performance will determine the final spec of the car. Lotus will need to attend a SRO Motorsport/ FIAGT4 test day when they will benchmark it with the usual suspects of the category, Cayman  GT4, Mclaren 620R, BMW M4 GT4...

    Final power numbers are literally out of their hands until that test. they can only get the weight as low as can be and hope for a positive power to weight ratio. The car could end up getting 360bhp or 480 bhp.

    The goal of the BOP is to make the gentleman drivers somewhat equal on track regardless of the mill they are running. That's why the Alpine sometimes win races while competing with AMG GT and its v8 twin turbo. the Alpine is a momentum car unable to get out of its own way at Monza but at Brands hatch it is a freakin weapon.

    The car is said to compete with heavy hitters but the weight spec looks favorable at this point.

     

    Find below a list of the cars homologated for 2019-2020 season, weight is the "homologated weight", and Emira target spec.

    Toyota Supra GT4 (3.0L inline 6 N.A, 430bhp, 650nm, 1350kg)

    Porsche Cayman GT-CS (3.8L flat 6 N.A, bhp unknown, nm unknown, 1295kg)

    AMG GT4 (4.0L V8 Twin Turbo, bhp unknown, nm unknown, 1400kg)

    McLaren 570R ( 3.8L V8 Twin Turbo, bhp unknown, nm unknown, 1425kg)

    Ford Mustang GT4 ( 5.2L V8 N.A, bhp unknown, nm unknown, 1490kg)

    Chevrolet Camaro GT4 ( 6.2L V8 N.A, bhp unknown, nm unknown, 1420kg)

    BMW M4 GT4 ((3.0L inline 6 N.A, bhp unknown, 650nm, 1430kg) same engine as the Toyota Supra GT

    Audi R8 LMS GT4 (5.0L V10 N.A, bhp unknown, nm unknown, 1460kg)

    Aston Martin Vantage AMR GT4 4.0L V8 Twin Turbo, bhp unknown, nm unknown, 1435kg)

    Alpine A110 GT4 ( 1.8L inline 4 T, 360bhp, nm unknown, 1080kg)

    Lotus Emira GT4 (3.5 V6 Supercharged, 400bhp, nm unknown, 1260kg)

     

    When I say unknown i mean that the numbers are not officially communicated but you can find the numbers on the website of each car company under their motorsport tab... I guarantee thought that the advertised numbers are not the numbers they race at.

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  5. 8 hours ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

    Bearing the above in mind, is this engine choice a step backward? The Evora GT4 was an NA 4 litre. The Emira GT4 will be a supercharged 3.5 litre of similar output. Surely that brings disadvantages? As we know the Supercharger on any Lotus V6 sits on top of the engine. The TVS1900 is even larger/heavier than the TVS1320 fitted to the Evora S. That will add weight and raise the centre of gravity. Secondly there is no mention of a charge cooler system in the press release. In which case, won’t the Emira GT4 also be blighted with heat soak issues like the Exige V6s? I wonder why they didn’t continue with the charge-cooled Edelbrock supercharger of the 4XX models and road Emira, which we know gives 400/430 bhp all day long and even 460bhp for the 3-11 Race with sequential gearbox.

    To your last and very good point. That maybe because they have worked a whole lot on passive cooling for the engine bay. the road car Emira' side air intakes are way bigger than the ones on Evora. The engine bay is also open on the rear deck and it has these air vents on either side of the lid. It also appears that the supercharger has its own cold air intake from the Motor1 video ( https://youtu.be/Y8Dk093fqJk) and it looks to be a much bigger diameter compared to the Evora. My understanding of things is that they much better cooling in the engine bay and that engine sits slightly lower in it. Emira road version keeps on using the Edelbrock unit. Emira GT4 uses the TVS unit maybe because at the end of the day, the BOP will make more sense with it.

     

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  6. it did! However the initial bhp number was only 360bhp but they had no problem getting to 400 post BOP. According to some racer it made the car a bit of a momentum racer, great at Brands Hatch where it's all curves not so great at Silverstone where you need more oomph. Adding the supercharger is a sure way to provide a less peaky ride.

  7. That looks seriously good. On the outside, they just added a front splitter side skirts, flat diffuser and a pulled-up wing. On the inside,we find Lotus trusted components : motec data logger, Xtrac gearbox... it is a continuation of the Evora GT4 program. The choice of the V6 for it is rational,the base mill is a proven unit in competition and fits the gt4 bill nicely, and with the supercharger it will make it more of an all rounder and less of a momentum racer Hopefully. By the way, mentioning the BHP is useless as the BOP will virtually add or remove BHP at the season first official test. If anything the BHP numbers are adequate for the category when compared to other cars and the power to weight ratio looks quite favourable.

    Alcon, disc and calipers are a bit of a surprise, as the company as been using AP racing for so many years, but change is good and Alcon track record is not subject to questioning.

    That kit should be quite a cost effective option for racers. Hopefully it gets picked up and Lotus can provide adequate racetrack support.

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  8. Peter Horbury is now officially VP of design for Group Lotus, not that it will change much to how things are run, Russel Carr stays the director of design, Horbury was de facto an overseer already, this is just an officialization and also a way for Geely to prepare the after Horbury.

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  9. 1 hour ago, Gus82 said:

    I posted a description of this on the thread with the latest Lotus announcements earlier. I came across a curious picture when searching for the "new Esprit" in Google images prior to the Emira launch. Not seen this elsewhere and there are a few lines around the nose which make me wonder if this could be a patent image of the new Lotus SUV. 

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/sNLmQ4LNjzVL31h57

    Some similarity to the first SUV in the image released today in terms of the lights perhaps? However the image I captured does have door mirrors instead of cameras.

    Apologies if this has been posted before or I've missed that it's an already well known vehicle!

     

    That was the first render Lotus allowed the media to  get access too and is derived from the SUV project developped under JMG, hopefully it retains most of the design as it was a looker.

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  10. Paradigm change or shift as they say. The factory was a shared one with other Geely premium brands but now it is fully Lotus dedicated. The link with NIO is surprizing in a way but Geely and NIO have been  working together behind the scene. Still Geely just provided Lotus with... independance, which is crazy to think about. Lotus went from the brink of oblivion to enough capacity for 160k cars per annum production from next year onward.

    It will be tricky to reconciliate the ethos for the driver with all that ADASS but as long as every aides can be properly disconnected.

    Now Geely is already looking at making a quick return based on the brand goodwill, which does seem a little hasty but at the speed they are going why not. Maybe we should pony up some cash to make sure smaller voices are heard...

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-30/lotus-cars-said-to-finish-funding-round-at-2-billion-valuation

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  11. 7 hours ago, Evotion said:

    Absolutely.  I believe it to be a bargain at that level though we might see very few specced poorly in reality.

    I will be happy with the 416HP V6 for sure.  Any more later on is a bonus but it would have to be an epic improvement for me to trade.

    Also that base V6 form is hum Porsche Cayman GT4 power level... just saying.

  12. 17 hours ago, Evotion said:

    I agree. Lotus have been anal about details so it must have been some sort of nod to their intentions.

    478BHP - this is more akin to what I was very originally expecting and I was geared up for it to cost £105k.

    I can't recall why I thought that. It would mean only having one Emira for me but what a beast that would be.

    Let me formulate and educated guess. You wanted this car  to be an Esprit successor, but that is not what the Emira is.

    I, for one, am glad about that, getting another 100k plus entry level supercar which is only set to get more expensive with ulterior versions is not moving the game forward in terms of making this type of cars available.

    I think that at 60k entry price, in bone stock form, without the leather seats, the premium sound option, a base color, touring package, the car is in a league of its own visually speaking. Yes, Cayman may remain a more popular option as will the F-Type or the C8 and a few others... Do they look as good or exotic, will they drive as nicely? I don't think so.

    On specs, it will be compared to cars that are way pricier and faster. but why pay for speeds you cannot reach without losing your licence?

    The Emira, Lotus just presented is the first of things to come.  Will it get more powerful versions ?I do think so.

    Will lotus decide to put 600bhp into it? I seriously doubt it, but I've been wrong many times before. Still opening the GR-FE to change the cams, pistons and rods may not be worth it.  However if Radford has paid in kind for a batch of engines and some end up not sold or if Geely says do it, who knows. We may get a very limited edition of crazy stupid fast and pricy Emiras hooning about in 2026 or something. Will they decide to ditch the V6 for the 4cyl? In north America at least, it would be a mistake, the V6 will keep the upper hand especially on something that is a lifestyle/trophy car.

    Food for thoughts, back when JMG was still in charge, he mentioned that the next top spec car would be slightly more powerful then the most powerful in the range, in its top spec, back then it was the Evora and Exige with the 436bhp engine spec.  With 478bhp, the Emira would match that expectation that I have of a slightly more powerful top spec car. I think it is a sensible number for a sportcar. Especially with a slight weight loss and refined componentry.

     

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  13. 19 hours ago, glen8 said:

    Gotta be the porsche Cayman IMHO

    I think the sports car, the original sport car has always been the 911, I think that Lotus is trying to undercut the 911, they  benchmarked the Cayman really well, but Cayman buyers have been for years, people not quite able to go for its big brother. So when lotus says that "the other sportscar". I don't think they are talking about a model in particular but rather a brand. They are taking aim at Porsche in general and If Emira will compete with Cayman mostly, Emira may have free reins to go hunting above its weight class.  I was just about that 478bhp leaked image, i don't think it was a gaffe or a computer glitch, I think it was purposeful or I hope it was ; an Emira with 478bhp and a weight trim becomes a defacto competitor with a certain GT3.

    I think Lotus want people to think about them as the other sportscar maker, the other being naturally Porsche, all the others being generalists masquerading as sportscar manufacturers.

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  14. 4 hours ago, MJON said:

    Lotus scrapping all previous models may indeed seem “very bold” to some but at just 15/1600 car sales pa with all three models, plus the impending switch to full EV, Lotus have made a sound business decision. After many years of just managing to hang on, good luck to them, agree there is lots of hype (aka good marketing) and hopefully the car will deliver. Always a little cautious being an early adopter, just hope they’ve got their quality control bolted down. We will see. Whatever, if it’s not for you and the lead times are long, just flip it and you’ll probably be in profit. Wouldn’t at all  be surprised if a number of the deposits are just speculators.

    You got your deposit in then Jimi 😉

    It was not bold but necesary, they are going to refurbish the old production line into something even more high tech than the Emira production line. they need time to do it.

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