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  1. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/j...icle6205379.ece good review sad about only 3 stars
  2. Sorry If I have duplicated. Contract Hire. Its been discussed before that Lotus were serious within the market about this. Anybody know how much and when the prices will be available.
  3. 1. Ordered before the motor show. Guide price was late 30's to 45k. 2. Affordability= Price, Depreciation, Personal income, Car finance Interest rates (they are up), Availability of money, Contract Hire Price, Economy, Competition and residual value of existing vehicle. Honestly. I could have afforded two. And even the magic price drop isnt so unbelievable. 45% of Lotus Evora market is US according to Evora project leader (lovely chap but forgot his name). At the time the prices were announced $ was 50p. Now $ is 70p. So if Lotus stick to the same prices in the USA they are going to get 40% more per unit !!!!! 40%. Perhaps realism with the extras would help. Rear Camera Price
  4. Typically options are optional for cars which haven't been built. But not in this case. So this is really the Lotus Evora LE (Launch Edition)
  5. its online http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/236821/
  6. yztop

    ev evora

    More Power equals more speed down the straights. (The 'Lotus' Tesla blew the 'Lotus' Lotus away down the straights. Its only problem was its weight in the corners... TG ) Less weight equals less time round the circuit. O my god. Could the Evora get the jump on the Cayman. Lotus could cream off the demand at
  7. Different colour wheels on each side is a sensational idea for a demonstrator. Would I consider on a road car. You never get to see both sides at the same time.
  8. yztop

    ev evora

    Could you expand on the volt configuration? Lighter than a Tesla? What type/weight of engine, electric motor and batteries would be needed as an example?
  9. yztop

    ev evora

    LOL Are Lotus marketing actually looking at this forum ! With the petrol engine, the larger weight of the tesla batteries wouldnt be needed. Perhaps clarksons ctiticisms of the teslas handling would be answered. So what about the screaming 1800cc 4 pot vvt engine from the 111r supported by a motor the size of a tesla and a third of the batteries. For evora s read evora e Tesla weight 1235 kg - 111r weight 860kg = 375kg So 375kb is weight of batteries and motor. Say 50kg for motor. Batteries 325kg Lotus keeps 125kg of batteries. Electrics total to go into evora 175kg cant find the data for the reduction in weight from the V6 vvti to the 1800cc vvti engine Tesla motor 248 bhp + 1800cc vvt engine 189 bhp Tesla motor 270 lb ft + 1800cc vvt engine 133 lb ft (new Toyota 1.33 dual vvti engine will be produced in Deeside, North Wales this year. Say Lotus could tune to 150 bhp then maybe this would be the one) Help. Can some bright spark further the calcs :-)
  10. yztop

    ev evora

    Looks like there's gonna be an electric evora. Lighter than tesla Partially powered by petrol engine Lotus are in a great position to do this with the R&D they have done in the past http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/02/look-ou...p-into-ev-game/
  11. Well Well This article has a different and welcome perspective on evora sales. http://johntipler.co.uk/riding-the-recession/ Perhaps I should have been looking at the ferrari, porsche and aston martin bulletin boards to judge the demand for the evora. It make a lot of sense that somebody wanting a new sports car for
  12. I started this topic with the vote and it hasnt reflected what is going on. I know 2 people have cancelled but it hasnt shown up on the stats. People are positive before they cancel the order then understandbly desert the site. Perhaps bibs could comment on the users which joined but have seen no activity in the last few months. Lotus sales have dropped in the states more than the market has dropped. http://www.am-online.com/NewCarSalesFigures/ If all else fails ..... order a calendar. http://www.easier.com/view/News/Motoring/article-218465.html
  13. Paul, Sorry Mate Its good that you actually publicised it on the board. I fear some would just abandon writing. I am in a very similar situation. Unless theres a global upturn (some chance) then I will be also asking for my deposit back from CN Chris
  14. Used to sell houses...... sounds about right ...as a developer. Low volume and high price which to be fair is somewhat insulated. If it was flats then I wouldnt be able to afford broadband connection to reply. My actual background is general business management and economics. As well as being interested in the evora car I would love to know the market economics for the introduction of the car in the declining market. All on this board seem to think they will still shift the numbers despite the economy. That would mean the original pricing was below customer expectations which I'm not too sure about. Even the Rock solid Audi R8 is nose diving. If you own it, how much is the value of your S3 below expectations. How safe is your job or your bonus?
  15. I'm selling houses. What about all exec homes get a free evora in the garage. Any takers ? PS (dont tell the misses that the free evora replaces the
  16. I would love the UK economic problems to be over next September. Taking Real House prices as a arbitary indicator. Price Crash 1989 Peak to Trough drop 39% over 8 years. Time to recover to same price. 12 years. Based on similar level, prices peaked in August 2007 and will bottom out in 2013 going back up to same level by 2018. All theoretical stuff until the normal bullish estate agents released this report. http://www.business24-7.ae/articles/2008/1...6bb6ac7f51.aspx Its not in their interests to publish this but quality estate agents have research departments ! "The UK economy is contracting; it would be farcical not to expect an upswing in unemployment," said Jamie Dannhauser, British economist for Lombard Street Research, who predicts the unemployment rate will rise to 6.5% by the middle of next year. E, in the previous quote states "Like I lose my job" Nobody believes what happend 20 years ago will happen again. http://www.theherald.co.uk/business/news/d...f_recession.php Late last week, the Inter-national Monetary Fund warned that the UK was likely to tumble into a full-blown recession. It sharply reduced its growth forecast for the UK, and the reduction was greater than that for any other major country. The UK projection indicates a recession almost comparable in severity to that in the early 1990s. The IMF also warned that unemployment was likely to rise sharply to around 6% next year. If the Lotus Evora can buck the recession then the score will be Great Britain 1 - Rest of the World 0 I would like to rerun this pole at the end of January
  17. Text below is from latest revisions to evora website. http://www.facelesspeople.com/ They are saying deposit is not refundable. I paid mine on the condition that it was. Comments ? "is now accepting orders from its European Evora Dealer Network for the new Evora vehicle. If you are interested in placing an order for an Evora please contact one of our Evora Dealers. Only Dealers whose details appear on the map above are authorised to place orders for the Evora. Evora Dealers are
  18. Revisions to Evora Website as of today state that cars in Showrooms Summer 2009. http://www.facelesspeople.com/ Assume they are demo cars Think April is premature !
  19. Does Lotus have any dealerships in Iceland. Wonder if their deposits have been frozen. :-)
  20. Spoke to a Lotus enthusiast last week who cannot imagine taking delivery of his car due to financial situation. Hasn't cancelled though. Same with me and I haven't cancelled... just in case. I'm not sure anybody knows the situation. Please poll..... truthfully !!
  21. dealer says 30 uk cars produced for dealer demo delivered in July. customer cars August September
  22. yztop

    Evora Price

    I think the figure probably refers to cars registered sales. You could add the evora sales in if not !
  23. yztop

    Evora Price

    After my posts this article makes me look a bit daft! http://business.edp24.co.uk/content/news/s...3A19%3A46%3A220 But the base number of lotus sold last august was only 13 But get this. Mike K says "We have got 250 deposits in the UK alone and we haven't announced the price yet," he added. As to coming months, Mr Kimberley said: "The market is softening, there's no doubt about it. Taking the flannel out of it "Prices havent been set (never mind announced) and he will be looking over the coming months at the softening market" For most owners of newish cars, the only price that matters is cost to swap. If the Audi A3 does an extra
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