andyj007 408 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 question chaps do all the 400 410 and 430 all fall in the highest uk tax bracket.. ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Colin P 722 Posted March 15, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 New or second hand? Mine certainly isn’t. In fact I think it is lower than an S. Quote A Lotus is for driving, pork is for breakfast. Link to post Share on other sites
andyj007 408 Posted March 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 second hand, i imagine the new gets the additional govt funding fee applied. when you look on autotrader some are lower some are higher, so it seems s1 n/a are lower s1 S some low some are higher, and differences between the 400... hmmnnnn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
internets 480 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 My auto 400 is around £300 a year and my old manual S1 S was around £500/£550 from memory, as was my manual Exige V6. The auto's seem to just scrape under the 225g/km but unfortunately the manuals are just over pushing them into the next VED band. 2 Quote 1982 DeLorean DMC 12 #16327, 1999 Lotus Elise, 1998 Lotus Esprit GT3 #2272, 2011 Lotus Evora S, 2013 Lotus Exige S,2016 Lotus Evora 400 Link to post Share on other sites
Simon Bateman 115 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 From April 2017, basically anything with a list price in excess of 40k gets slapped with £310.00 onto the base rate of £140.00 The rate of £140.00 sounds OK, but as list prices of cars keep increasing, I doubt the 40k TAX threshold will do at all or or by that much, so bit by bit, anything remotely interesting will be dragged into that area of cost. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Colin P 722 Posted March 15, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 The N/A was 3 down bands down from the top. The IPS S was in the same as the N/A. The manual S was 2 down from the top (which is where the jump is). The Auto 400's before the last changes were the same as the N/A, I thought the manuals were too, but not 100% sure. Now they will all attract the value charge. Not sure if the banding will have changed too. 2 Quote A Lotus is for driving, pork is for breakfast. Link to post Share on other sites
Gashead1105 317 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 My 16 plate 400 is not in the highest tax bracket - just renewed it at £300 for the year. Unlike my older V6 exige, which was almost double that. Man maths ahoy Andy, time to make the change. You know it makes sense. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyj007 408 Posted March 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 interesting.. thanks.. i absolutely hate paying our unfair high road tax for when in my case with a few cars, they dont get much milage.. Will, man maths has got me into trouble many a time..! i absolutely adore my s1..tho.. but you never know if something came up.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PhillC 89 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 I have no idea how much the tax is on my GT430 and Cup 430. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gashead1105 317 Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Mine's not for sale Andy, sorry! Man maths might get me into trouble shortly. I miss my fiesta ST a lot... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,722 Posted March 16, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 I have just renewed my almost 1 year old Evora 410 Sport at £450 for the year. Given my last years mileage was 4k that is the equivalent of 11.25p per mile. Hardly extortionate but not trifling. I do believe it's first registration was before, by about a week, may be two, last years changes that brought in the +£40k increase premium. My 2001 VX220 SC cost me £315 for the year which was the same as my Evora S1 NA from 2010. 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
tim_marra 492 Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 My S1 Evora S was £540 renewal recently. Still a bargain compared to what I was charged when it was first registered (£900+ IIRC). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,722 Posted March 16, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, tim_marra said: My S1 Evora S was £540 renewal recently. Still a bargain compared to what I was charged when it was first registered (£900+ IIRC). Swap it for a 410Sport and save £90 a year Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
tim_marra 492 Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Trouble is the price to change will cost more £90/year than I have years left. Or likely total life expectancy. 410 is lovely though. My S1 is a keeper btw, lovely, lovely, lovely. And tons of grunt with the TVS1900 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Techyd 251 Posted March 16, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 15/03/2019 at 09:03, Colin P said: The N/A was 3 down bands down from the top. The IPS S was in the same as the N/A. The manual S was 2 down from the top (which is where the jump is). The Auto 400's before the last changes were the same as the N/A, I thought the manuals were too, but not 100% sure. Now they will all attract the value charge. Not sure if the banding will have changed too. Yes my S IPS is £329 a year which was a pleasant surprise as I was expecting to be more!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stephenwhyte 2,002 Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 What happens to the extra premium charge for vehicle over £40k.......if you only tax the car for 6 months?🤔 Common sense would say it’s halved like the standard road tax charge but I’ve not seen it stated so can’t be certain? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyj007 408 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 common sense doesnt apply when its govt legislation... interested in the answer too... anyone? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geoffers 55 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables According to the Gov website it appears for the first year you can only tax for 12 months, after that (next 4 years) you can get 6 months tax at half the rate plus a percentage including the £40k plus premium. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stephenwhyte 2,002 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 So full rate of £310 premium plus the 6 month payment then it seems - what a joke! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geoffers 55 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, stephenwhyte said: So full rate of £310 premium plus the 6 month payment then it seems - what a joke! No the 6 months premium is £170.50. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harey 23 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 On 17/03/2019 at 17:34, stephenwhyte said: What happens to the extra premium charge for vehicle over £40k.......if you only tax the car for 6 months?🤔 Common sense would say it’s halved like the standard road tax charge but I’ve not seen it stated so can’t be certain? When I did my last one, as previous, the first years vehicle tax is included in the 'on the road price' so the extra premium was just dumped in and added to the cost.... I did get a nice letter to tell me that i had paid this extra tax, and I will do over the first five years. You can pay in 6 months lumps, but there is a premium. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stephenwhyte 2,002 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Geoffers said: No the 6 months premium is £170.50. I didn’t see that written anywhere - if you’re right then that does seem fairer but I still don’t see it anywhere on the website Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stephenwhyte 2,002 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, Harey said: When I did my last one, as previous, the first years vehicle tax is included in the 'on the road price' so the extra premium was just dumped in and added to the cost.... I did get a nice letter to tell me that i had paid this extra tax, and I will do over the first five years. You can pay in 6 months lumps, but there is a premium. Yes in the first year clearly it’s taxed from new for 12 months but my first year tax on my Exige runs out next month and I’m trying to confirm what the cost of taxing for 6 months will be, all in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bibs 11,658 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I'm sure this will help... https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax 1 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to post Share on other sites
Harey 23 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, stephenwhyte said: Yes in the first year clearly it’s taxed from new for 12 months but my first year tax on my Exige runs out next month and I’m trying to confirm what the cost of taxing for 6 months will be, all in. As @Bibs highlights the website and here https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables at the bottom. So you will have to pay the standard rate and the 'luxury' part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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