Dan.G 165 Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 Late to the party but wanted to comment.. Im watching the carfection review of the car as we speak. Its the first time ive seen the car. I am really impressed, lots of innovation and looks next level. 1.7 million however.... if the badge was equal to the big boys then maybe theyd fly out the door. But that kind of money for a first attempt hyper car... hmmm. Again, happy to be wrong, as it does look stunning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LotusLeftLotusRight 1,395 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 A little bird tells me that Lotus has so far received 20 firm (hefty) deposits on the Evija globally. So if they all get delivered in 2020, that’s about £40 million extra turnover, so equivalent to about an additional 500-600 “normal” Lotus sales. The skeleton building is still being prepared for production but there’s still time. Does anyone think they’ll get anywhere near the planned number of units? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart Monument 792 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 I think the productions plan sounds far to many for a car at 1.7m . It’s not exclusive enough, especially as the brand sells cars from £40k ish. I hope Lotus achieves its numbers as it’s a awesome project. Turnover isn’t related to profit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smapmap 147 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 I assumed they'd sell all of them - most powerful car in the world has a lot of cache if money is no object? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,693 Posted November 1, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Stuart Monument said: Turnover isn’t related to profit Agreed. One is vanity, one is sanity! I had heard they were taking a steady stream of orders. Mine would have been for an exposed carbon weave in green with yellow highlights, but the wife wanted a new kitchen.... 2 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
The Pits 4,411 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Popham is being intentionally vague about production numbers. In the highly unlikely event that they sell 130 with ease then expect another 130 of some future variant to be announced shortly afterwards. If they sell 20 like the show car then you can expect other variants to be announced to bring the total combined number up to say 60, thereby maintaining ‘no more than 130’. They all do it, 675LT sold well so along came the 675LT Spyder, La Ferrari Aperta and so on. I would be amazed if they have orders for as many as twenty cars, it’s also standard practice to exaggerate your hypercar’s success but good luck to them if they have. Geely certainly won’t want to write off a huge loss on the program, Lotus will be mightily relieved if they can hit or surpass the break-even number of sales. I think this goes some way to explain the woeful neglect of the current range. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NedaSay 857 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Well if the VIP sales specialist hired cannot get more than 20 cars sold, he is a bit of a waste of money. The initial run was going to be 20, 20 was and is a fairly easy target, 130 is a different ball game. if they end up with 60ish car made it will be a lukewarm success ... it will take quite a lot of spin to make that into a positive if they get to the low 80 cars then I would deem it a franc sale success. but it should sell over 20 on looks alone, the car is the best looking one out there. However they do really need to do a better job at getting the car to meet its potential buyers, the road tour did not include Russia! I believe not even more than a day in China - for now - this is nuts! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Popular Post C8RKH 6,693 Posted November 2, 2019 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Why don't we wait and see? Why in this internet age is every one so damn inpatient and quick to focus on the down sides of everything. The fact is, given where the company was and still is really, just to have the ambition, the wherewithall, the skill, and the vision to get the Type 130 this far is amazing. I for one will be happy to wait and see what Lotus does with this and will then judge it a success or not based on real fact, rather than anything else. 4 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
The Pits 4,411 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 How will we ever know how many have really been sold? Every hypercar is a tremendous success according to its maker. Lotus aren’t ever going to admit to it being a failure are they? Oldest trick in Ferrari’s book is to tell you that you can’t have one and the waiting list is 2 years. A month later the phone goes, ‘we have great news, a cancelled order has just become available here are the bank details for your deposit’. Evija’s success will have a real bearing on future Lotus cars which will be more relevant to more people here. Those who like the way Lotus are going had better hope it’s a success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post ramjet 1,092 Posted November 2, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 9 hours ago, C8RKH said: Why don't we wait and see? Why in this internet age is every one so damn inpatient and quick to focus on the down sides of everything. And here I was thinking I was the only one that thought this. 3 Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Popular Post C8RKH 6,693 Posted November 22, 2019 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 http://youtu.be/qsxCX0KYYJw 5 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
jonwat 449 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 More in Autocar. 2 Quote Cheers, John W http://jonwatkins.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites
LotusLeftLotusRight 1,395 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Was that really the Hethel test track? If so the surface has deteriorated dramatically in the past 12 months. Also why the camouflage? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arregueti 211 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 It looks more like a runway or airfield to me. I like that EVIJA / ALIVE reflection. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pits 4,411 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Agree, why bother with the camo when we've already seen the car? There hasn't been a squeak from Lotus since Goodwood. The silence is very strange particularly when the marketing budget is many times what JMG had to play with. There appears to be no interest in the current cars whatsoever and equal apathy for building some confidence in the brand. This is the critical time to lay the foundations for what is to come but it seems the guys who should be doing the groundworks are sleeping on the job. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,693 Posted November 22, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 You would have thought they'd had enough sleep over the past 7-10 years! Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Techyd 251 Posted November 22, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said: Was that really the Hethel test track? If so the surface has deteriorated dramatically in the past 12 months. Also why the camouflage? Looked like Dunsfold at times... My guess is that the camo is to hide what isn't on the car / test mule yet - working lights perhaps! Video looked like a rush job to me, over-pitched title for what you get to see "Shake down tests commence" might have been more apt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LotusLeftLotusRight 1,395 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 The one thing Lotus doesn’t need to spend time and money on is a 3rd Party test track. Maybe it was a Top Gear test? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bibs 11,639 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 I believe that's now earmarked for a housing development. Looked more like Elvington in Yorkshire to me. 1 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to post Share on other sites
scotty435 1,169 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Looks great in camo and for those saying why? I say why not, don’t understand all the negativity, sure we will see more promo videos of not just the Evija but at least one other future model in the new year. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arregueti 211 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 I don't understand the negativity about the camo either. It is just marketing IMO. It is green and yellow, to start with. I sometimes wonder if there is some sort of reverse psychology being used in some of the posts. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Barrykearley 7,135 Posted November 22, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Reckon the camo get up looks frankly amazing 🥰 1 Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
The Pits 4,411 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Genuinely curious about the camo really not bothered either way but it is usually used to disguise the car before launch. Very unusual to disguise a car that everyone has seen, can’t help but wonder what the idea is. Best guess is they want to make it look like a big development budget. I am far more concerned about many other things that are going on (and not going on) up at Hethel but remain impressed by the work on Evija to date. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
electro_boy 253 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Who says it’s camo? Maybe it’s a genuine colour scheme? 😉 Yes video looks a bit rushed and lacking of real substance but every other car manufacturer does this. Everyone drops a tiny snippet of video every now and then. Or even the fake spy shots where the manufacturer them selfs have paid for the photographer to follow them round or tipped them off where the car will be. It helps to keep the hype up and keep the car in the media and people’s minds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramjet 1,092 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 In my opinion, the camo doesn't really hide how the car looks. Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. Link to post Share on other sites
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