Type 130 - Lotus Evija

[Escape]

On 26/07/2019 at 18:20, Arregueti said:

And energy consumption taken into account for the classification?

That's also the case in F1, as they're only allowed to use a certain amount of fuel.

[Arregueti]

@Escape Possibly. But I was reading this differently, as if they would measure who had more charge left at the end of the race and then declare that car a winner even if that car was not the first.

[Escape]

I guess they would need rules to compare charge left in the batteries to distance covered or time behind the 'leader' to determine the overall winner. Sounds like a can of worms. I believe racing should have as little rules as possible, just enough to ensure comparable vehicles participating, but leaving as much freedom as possible for the teams to innovate. So for example don't limit the amount of fuel, but let the teams decide if a powerfull but thirsty engine is worth having to stop to refuel (or recharge) more often.

[NedaSay]

12 hours ago, Arregueti said:

@Escape Possibly. But I was reading this differently, as if they would measure who had more charge left at the end of the race and then declare that car a winner even if that car was not the first.

I think they could go with a system not too differrent from the one in use in Formula E, any car with zero energy before the end of the last lap is technically DNF.

However I don't quite believe SRO will manage to get a sufficient number of participants in GTX. We are talking customers teams here able to fork in excess of $2m for a single car which is the price of the Evija, the C2 and the Batista, then you have to add the cost of developping race ready parts including tires that will be able to handle the torque... It souds more like full fledge factory squads  than customer teams.  I know a lot of  one percenters have cash to burn and are bored to death but we are talking about budget that would allow a team to compete in WEC LMGT decently here.

I know SRO GT3 IGTC championship is customer team in nothing but names considering the factories nominate both teams and drivers and do pay a part of the entry fee but IGTC is nowhere near the cost that GTX would be I believe.

Time will tell...

I'd prefer to Lotus to go compete in WEC-le Mans, Formula E by teaming up with Virgin or another team without a manufacturer deal or go grass root  with Evora GT4 and the upcoming sportcar in GT3 or GT LM. 

 

[NedaSay]

Uh did not quite see this one coming, this is just as big as Goodwood and to some extent the full unveil, Lotus is going to the Quail!

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/lotus-evija-quail-monterey-car-week/

We knew the car was coming to the US under the show import scheme but I thought -erroneously - that it was going to be presented in another form ( a rolling prototype) at a later stage...  But they are going to the Quail now where people will get very close to the car and have no qualm touching, grabbings sitting their asses in and on the car. That's commitment.

Edited July 31, 2019 by NedaSay

[100th_Idiot]

Get your ass to Quail

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

They need to get the Hollywood set to weigh in their dirty hybrid Toyota Priuses and buy a more environmentally friendly Evija to help save the whales.

[TLF News]

Lotus Evija to start world tour at Monterey Car Week

[kunstenaar]

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Grr! I’m in Monterey for much of car week as usual, but won’t be around for the last weekend when the Evija is shown.  So close; yet so far! 

[scotty435]

On the move.

 

 

[Julian73]

On 26/07/2019 at 11:58, NedaSay said:

So how many very well heeled gents and ladies around to race cars worth probably over 2M$ in anger with a bunch of lunatics around a track...

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Do you not watch Vintage F1 racing?  They do it all the time.

[C8RKH]

1 hour ago, Julian73 said:

Do you not watch Vintage F1 racing?  They do it all the time.

Have to agree with @Julian73 - Historic Classics (HSSC) in the UK and all over the world you will find wealthy car nuts racing wheel to wheel in ex Le Man's GT40's, 250's, Mclarens, LMP1/2 etc. You think those cars are cheap? And who do you think owns the classic F1's (including the JPS Lotus carbon one's that Classic Team Lotus runs - the drivers of course in many instances!!!)

[scotty435]

Ready to go racing 

 

[mayevora]

She got in there quickly! 😊

[Spinney]

Would it be unseemly for me to mention that her metallic finish tights go well with the cars paintwork???

[The Pits]

I've got nothing against her personally but she looks like she's talking to young children. Maybe she is?

Let the dumbing down commence!

Wouldn't you all prefer to see what former Lotus F1 drivers think of it?

[Spinney]

1 hour ago, The Pits said:

Wouldn't you all prefer to see what former Lotus F1 drivers think of it?

Err.........no! 

[C8RKH]

2 hours ago, The Pits said:

I've got nothing against her personally but she looks like she's talking to young children. Maybe she is?

Let the dumbing down commence!

Wouldn't you all prefer to see what former Lotus F1 drivers think of it?

Better not let Crashtor anywhere near it, unless of course they have some spares!

[Luc2000]

20 hours ago, scotty435 said:

Ready to go racing 

 

Not sure about the colors, but I love how the word 'Lotus' is placed inside the big side air scoop. Would be great to see them at Le Mans, if it had a combustion engine it would be a perfect fit for the new hypercar-style rules.

[Bee]

4 hours ago, The Pits said:

I've got nothing against her personally but she looks like she's talking to young children. Maybe she is?

Let the dumbing down commence!

Wouldn't you all prefer to see what former Lotus F1 drivers think of it?

I know what you're saying but she's become 'the' name for first looks at hypercars and high-end supercars. I'd imagine someone in Lotus's team considered her growing reputation for showcasing these types of vehicles, saw her 1.78 million subscribers on YouTube and thought that's got to be worth 15-20 minutes of our time before the car's loaded up and taken to the next location.

 

I'd rather see the thoughts of former (and current) F1 stars when they actually allow people to drive it at speed. I realise that could be quite a while away yet though!

[scotty435]

You are 100% right she as a massive audience and the most current YouTube ex F1 driver and world champion as only half the audience she as, I say well done Lotus for doing what the competition have been doing for years, she might not be to every ones taste but this will put Lotus back in the spotlight which can only be good for sales now and more importantly the next few years when we have the new platforms.

[The Pits]

It seems we're getting used to justifying no end of mediocrity on the basis of the size of audience. Quality matters much more than quantity when you're trying to shift 130 £2m hypercars. If supercar blondie genuinely knows lots of high net worth people in Dubai (she may well do) then I fair enough, hopefully she'll bring the car to their attention and they won't mind being spoken to like a 5 year old. Youtube is also the modern equivalent of the kids bedroom wall which I also get, this is part of where the Evija belongs, but this is playing the very long game and will be quickly irrelevant if they can only sell a handful of cars. The scary part is that the successful youtubers and the people that run them have the car makers by the short and curlies. They are now seen as an essential part of marketing a car for which they are laughing all the way to the bank. The thing which is never questioned is the accuracy of their claims about the size of their audience. In general terms the wealthiest car Youtubers are the most successful, this is because they can afford to buy views, likes and subscribers. If you haven't heard about click farms, search for it on Google. 

I think the Evjia deserves better personally. The first person to drive the Evija outside the factory is a big story in itself. I'm sure they could have done better than a youtuber driving around a dusty trailer park at 2mph, with a bit of thought. If I was a serious buyer I'd want to know about the quality of the engineering that's gone into the car and I'd want to learn about it from someone with some credibility on the subject. What does it matter what supercar blondie or any other youtuber thinks about it? What insights are they able to offer beyond 'wow, insane, awesome, insane'? The scary part for me is Lotus could probably have had a number of F1 drivers for less. This thing would absolutely wipe the floor the Formula E grid. I think that would be a far more impressive and shareable thing to watch. And I bet the kids would find it more memorable too. Supercar blondie can do the commentating or post race interviews!

[tim_marra]

2 hours ago, Bee said:

I know what you're saying but she's become 'the' name for first looks at hypercars and high-end supercars.

Yes, and she has 'one of them'. And with 'one of them', she can get as many of those as she likes.

[Bibs]

[scotty435]

45 minutes ago, The Pits said:

It seems we're getting used to justifying no end of mediocrity on the basis of the size of audience. Quality matters much more than quantity when you're trying to shift 130 £2m hypercars. If supercar blondie genuinely knows lots of high net worth people in Dubai (she may well do) then I fair enough, hopefully she'll bring the car to their attention and they won't mind being spoken to like a 5 year old. Youtube is also the modern equivalent of the kids bedroom wall which I also get, this is part of where the Evija belongs, but this is playing the very long game and will be quickly irrelevant if they can only sell a handful of cars. The scary part is that the successful youtubers and the people that run them have the car makers by the short and curlies. They are now seen as an essential part of marketing a car for which they are laughing all the way to the bank. The thing which is never questioned is the accuracy of their claims about the size of their audience. In general terms the wealthiest car Youtubers are the most successful, this is because they can afford to buy views, likes and subscribers. If you haven't heard about click farms, search for it on Google. 

I think the Evjia deserves better personally. The first person to drive the Evija outside the factory is a big story in itself. I'm sure they could have done better than a youtuber driving around a dusty trailer park at 2mph, with a bit of thought. If I was a serious buyer I'd want to know about the quality of the engineering that's gone into the car and I'd want to learn about it from someone with some credibility on the subject. What does it matter what supercar blondie or any other youtuber thinks about it? What insights are they able to offer beyond 'wow, insane, awesome, insane'? The scary part for me is Lotus could probably have had a number of F1 drivers for less. This thing would absolutely wipe the floor the Formula E grid. I think that would be a far more impressive and shareable thing to watch. And I bet the kids would find it more memorable too. Supercar blondie can do the commentating or post race interviews!

Can not disagree with what you saying, just trying to point out that it’s good to see Lotus trying to reach out to a bigger audience, will she help sales with this car who knows 🤷‍♂️, but like I said if this video helps sales with the next generation of cars it’s win win for Lotus. All top performance brands use these people to promote there products in this day and age, so no harm done by Lotus jumping on board I am sure 👍