Suddabym 431 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 Thank you Julian73 for explaining the why behind the Federal Evora GT. I did rather wonder when it appeared on FB. At first glance it does look like a 400 reversed into a 430, but I get it now. I think it looks pretty awesome. I’m kinda bummed out that we aren’t getting it here. Quote Sudders and Dany Link to post Share on other sites
Ccd 115 Posted June 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, brian.s.henry said: Afternoon, We're excited to receive the GT in the US! $96,950 + $1,995 destination Many options come standard over the previous Evora 400! __________________ 0-60 mph // 3.8 manual 0-60 mph // 3.9 auto __________________ The following items come as standard: 416bhp (CARB) 6-speed manual with LSD Baffled sump Carbon sills Carbon instrument binnacle New aero vents above front wheels New aero A-panels New carbon fiber rear end Lightweight 10-spoke forged (10.5" rear) wheels Carbon Seat backs Black Pack Rear stone guards in black Bilstein sports dampers Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 XL Cruise Control Reversing Camera Premium Infotainment with Apple Car Play Revised lightweight interior __________________ EVORA SILVER / BLACK W/ RED STRIPE SEATS - 6-SPEED MANUAL - COMING SOON! ISOTOPE GREEN / BLACK W/ BLACK STRIPE SEATS - 6-SPEED MANUAL - COMING SOON! __________________ If you would like more information or would like to commission your own Evora GT, please contact [email protected]rMotorsport.com . @C8RKH Per the most recent technical service bulletin for Fed cars: ___________________________ Rear-Bumper Over-Riders Because of the rear restyled carbon fibre rear bumper, rear bumper over-riders are fitted to meet Federal requirements. 2 polypropylene foam blocks, fitted into ABS plastic covers are bonded onto both sides of an aluminum bracket, which in turn is fixed into position onto the license plate area of the rear bumper. ____________________________ Did Lotus change the radio? The old one played Android Auto as well as Apple Car Play Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julian73 153 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, Champale said: Wow those look great! Am curious about how much stuff gets thrown down the side of the car because of the scallops behind the front wheels. I've been driving with the 430 A-panels for about a year now. Its not bad except for road dirt right on the panel themselves. Get PPF film installed. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brian.s.henry 5 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, C8RKH said: Wowser. So you take those off and you have some lovely bracket holes in that carbon. Nice one As stated...." bonded onto both sides of an aluminum bracket". Here's a screen shot taken from the latest parts diagram. I believe it will be a moot point. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Champale 18 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 Beautiful car, Julian73! Thank you for that insight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brian.s.henry 5 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, Ccd said: Did Lotus change the radio? The old one played Android Auto as well as Apple Car Play Yes, I believe has both. Meant to add premium infotainment as standard. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,254 Posted June 23, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, brian.s.henry said: As stated...." bonded onto both sides of an aluminum bracket". Here's a screen shot taken from the latest parts diagram. I believe it will be a moot point. Ah, that's very good news then so easy to remove without spoiling the carbon - unlike at the front where they just screw the licence plate holder into the carbon like they did on my 410 Sport - argh!!! 1 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
Julian73 153 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 57 minutes ago, C8RKH said: Oh, for the love of Lucifer what the flying fook are these things and what the hell are they doing totally ruining the rear of an Evora? Jeez, what with bloody bicycle reflectors on all four corners thanks to bloody US rules this is really the biscuit.... 57 minutes ago, C8RKH said: Oh, for the love of Lucifer what the flying fook are these things and what the hell are they doing totally ruining the rear of an Evora? Jeez, what with bloody bicycle reflectors on all four corners thanks to bloody US rules this is really the biscuit.... Oh come on, this execution of bowling gutter bumpers isn't as bad has some other companies have done on cars costing 10x more, in fact they show some attempt at style intergration. What I find hard to believe is that there is anything structural behind the bumper in that spot. *** Edit*** oh sweet, they are not bonded to the car body except through the license plate screws, Thank You Lotus Gods. As to bicycle reflectors, actually that's what you guys get, we get active lighted reflectors. It would be nice for Lotus to investigate the regulations, on my premium class Japanese sedan, the manufacture seemed to be able to get away with a dark smoked finish that hides colors etc when shone on or lights on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,254 Posted June 23, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Julian73 said: As to bicycle reflectors, actually that's what you guys get, we get active lighted reflectors. It would be nice for Lotus to investigate the regulations, on my premium class Japanese sedan, the manufacture seemed to be able to get away with a dark smoked finish that hides colors etc when shone on or lights on. It woulod be nice not to have to have them full stop. Then the wings would not need to be sculpted out for them. Bloody complete waste of time in my very humble opinion and a waste of natural resources. But hey, what the hell do I know anyways.... Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
Julian73 153 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, C8RKH said: It woulod be nice not to have to have them full stop. Then the wings would not need to be sculpted out for them. Bloody complete waste of time in my very humble opinion and a waste of natural resources. But hey, what the hell do I know anyways.... Write to your house representatives, and for now EU representative ... life we all live, year by year the noose gets tighter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,254 Posted June 23, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Julian73 said: Write to your house representatives, and for now EU representative ... life we all live, year by year the noose gets tighter. Only thanks to our lefty noisy peers who want top stop anything that resembles having a good time. Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
andyj007 407 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, C8RKH said: Oh, for the love of Lucifer what the flying fook are these things and what the hell are they doing totally ruining the rear of an Evora? Jeez, what with bloody bicycle reflectors on all four corners thanks to bloody US rules this is really the biscuit.... what exactly do they even do..? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
name_bran 21 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 @andyj007 they’re US mandated bumper stops that some cars are required to have for crash test regulations is my understanding. They’ve been doing this sort of thing for years. And to be honest, they really don’t look too bad on the GT compared to a lot of other cars. The DB11 and Chiron are two of the worst examples I’ve seen in recent memory. So we should be thankful Lotus at least made them look decent. Although I suspect, like me, most owners will remove theirs immediately since they’re easily removed. Thanks for that diagram Brian! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,254 Posted June 23, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, andyj007 said: what exactly do they even do..? I'm beginning to think they are some form of new cupholder, heated air from the engine is used to keep the coffee warm. Just rules and regulations gone mad in a mad, mad world... Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
ramjet 1,086 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 They are there to protect your license plate from those ugly dents when some other person reverses into your car with a tow ball on the back of their car. Really though, when you look at the potentially illegal and non-tested modifications that people in the US can do once they own their car, these would have to be the ugliest, most worthless things I have seen. Hang on, if a cyclist aims correctly, they might hit them. that would avert a far more dangerous outcome. Phew! The ones on the Bugatti are big enough to be dinner plate warmers. We are WAY past cup holders on that. 1 Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. Link to post Share on other sites
andyj007 407 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 what really makes me frustrated is there is muppet jobsworth who dreams up this legislation.. and thinks its gonna do the job.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ccd 115 Posted June 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Nice to know Lotus is not following that bad example of Porsche whose entertainment units only work with Apple Car Play Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julian73 153 Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 7 hours ago, ramjet said: T... The ones on the Bugatti are big enough to be dinner plate warmers. We are WAY past cup holders on that. We don't have picnics in the US, we have tailgate parties before and during (American) football games and NASCAR races. Those extended trays are to hold the beer coolers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieBrown 19 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 23/06/2019 at 12:24, brian.s.henry said: Afternoon, We're excited to receive the GT in the US! $96,950 + $1,995 destination Many options come standard over the previous Evora 400! __________________ 0-60 mph // 3.8 manual 0-60 mph // 3.9 auto __________________ The following items come as standard: 416bhp (CARB) 6-speed manual with LSD Baffled sump Carbon sills Carbon instrument binnacle New aero vents above front wheels New aero A-panels New carbon fiber rear end Lightweight 10-spoke forged (10.5" rear) wheels Carbon Seat backs Black Pack Rear stone guards in black Bilstein sports dampers Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 XL Cruise Control Reversing Camera Premium Infotainment with Apple Car Play Revised lightweight interior __________________ EVORA SILVER / BLACK W/ RED STRIPE SEATS - 6-SPEED MANUAL - COMING SOON! ISOTOPE GREEN / BLACK W/ BLACK STRIPE SEATS - 6-SPEED MANUAL - COMING SOON! __________________ If you would like more information or would like to commission your own Evora GT, please contact [email protected] . @C8RKH Per the most recent technical service bulletin for Fed cars: ___________________________ Rear-Bumper Over-Riders Because of the rear restyled carbon fibre rear bumper, rear bumper over-riders are fitted to meet Federal requirements. 2 polypropylene foam blocks, fitted into ABS plastic covers are bonded onto both sides of an aluminum bracket, which in turn is fixed into position onto the license plate area of the rear bumper. ____________________________ Is this just for California? --- 416bhp (CARB) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieBrown 19 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 22/06/2019 at 16:18, NedaSay said: The Evora GT is not going to be a limited run model but Lotus will not aim for massive sales on it. In the US it will essentially be an end of life refresh until the Evora is replaced. The Evora GT will soldier on alongside next year new sport car that could be unveiled in the fourth quarter of this year. The "2020 sport car" is very likely to be an Evora based Exige type car, strict 2 seater coupe/roadster. it will have all the features that will allow it to go head to head with the Boxster/Cayman and should bring some of the Elise goodness. The Evora GT is not going to receive the wing nor the front bumper due to NHTSA homologation. Lotus being still small, they decided against crashing half a dozen cars to export probably less than 1000 cars right?! The Evora GT is called GT410 Sport in the rest of the world and It will just take an ECU reflash to unlock the 430 bhp. Who knows, that is just speculation. It could be a heavier/bigger version of the Evora but more refined to satisfy the fat bods of Americans that never fitted on the Elise, Exige and have trouble with the Evora. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,254 Posted June 25, 2019 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, CharlieBrown said: Is this just for California? --- 416bhp (CARB) Does this from the previous page not answer your question? "As I've been told it is configured for US general market at 422 Hp US (same tune as UK 430 but with losses due to 3rd Cat) and 416 Hp for California CARB. Dealer have all the pricing info on options/standard equipment, but suffice to say when price was dropped $21k some prior standard equipment became optional, for example I understand the carbon pack is now $10k (for roof, front access hatch, rear hatch & differed surround). I know this was standard equipment on my Sport 410 but then my base MSRP was $109k + delivery plus still an extra $17k in options, 2 years ago" Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Loquacious Lew 335 Posted June 26, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 All this leaves me content with my nasty old 2017 400 that came with a $20K discount from list and a new car warranty. What should I buy with the $40,000 I have left over? I'm thinking Komotec tune, some personal track lessons and Type R for a daily. Any other suggestions or have I got that about nailed? Type R is a dud you say? Well, at least I get my wing! 2 1 Quote '17 Evora 400 MT Link to post Share on other sites
Julian73 153 Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 12 hours ago, CharlieBrown said: Do you realize that he is a US dealer and his post about the GT only addresses the 416bhp (CARB). Before trashing people, due some research. Rather than just certify all cars to the toughest CARB regulations, Lotus is offering the cars in two certified configurations, 416 and 422. And that is from the same dealer source. Now what that physically means?, if you have a 416 car and live outside of CARB regs (i.e. not in states of California, New York,Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, & DC.) can a 416 car easily be turned into a 422 car with a software change, or is hardware too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieBrown 19 Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Julian73 said: Before trashing people, due some research. Rather than just certify all cars to the toughest CARB regulations, Lotus is offering the cars in two certified configurations, 416 and 422. And that is from the same dealer source. Now what that physically means?, if you have a 416 car and live outside of CARB regs (i.e. not in states of California, New York,Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, & DC.) can a 416 car easily be turned into a 422 car with a software change, or is hardware too? My post was a question to a dealer that knows the exact info but I get a smart ass response from a arm chair Lotus insider. I don't need to "do some research" when there is a dealer in this thread talking about it. To each its own dude, live and let live. 12 hours ago, Loquacious Lew said: All this leaves me content with my nasty old 2017 400 that came with a $20K discount from list and a new car warranty. What should I buy with the $40,000 I have left over? I'm thinking Komotec tune, some personal track lessons and Type R for a daily. Any other suggestions or have I got that about nailed? Type R is a dud you say? Well, at least I get my wing! I hear you. Maybe consider it when the GT has the same $20k discount next year? hahaha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julian73 153 Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 55 minutes ago, CharlieBrown said: My post was a question to a dealer that knows the exact info but I get a smart ass response from a arm chair Lotus insider. I don't need to "do some research" when there is a dealer in this thread talking about it. To each its own dude, live and let live. I hear you. Maybe consider it when the GT has the same $20k discount next year? hahaha If you want technical/commercial info from a dealer, then message or even pick up the phone to said dealer, don't expect it to just be posted on a forum. Now on the other hand if you ask a question on a forum, please expect answers, opinions, assumptions, conjectures, comments and/or snide remarks to be given back to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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