free hit
counters
worn/damaged bush found - Gearchange/Gearbox/Clutch - The Lotus Forums Jump to content
esprit22

worn/damaged bush found

Recommended Posts

Saw this when car was up on a ramp being mot'd the other day, looks like a bush on the gear linkage that is damaged, gear change is fine, is this a problem? 

 

025.jpg

035.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Upgrade today to remove Google ads and support TLF.

Probably not a critical fail point in the near term, though likely to degrade connecting bits if left in this state over time. Note misalignment of the through bolt is already evident, therefore asymmetry in the remaining bush material which is temporarily containing a measure of slop. When the remainder is jettisoned then what?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

the gear change will improve if you change it (along with all others that will be in a similar state.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looks about right, check the online vendors' for parts listings. SJ's website is very useful.

Cheers

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Trash and buy the kit from SJ's

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 18/05/2019 at 16:42, esprit22 said:

Kit?

Sorry, I meant to to say buy them as a set from SJ's. My mind was a million miles away when I typed this. 😣

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hmm, just noticed that the pivot pins (22 on diagram) are both shown as being fitted on the same side, where mine are fitted either side, which is correct I wonder..

Have any of you guys replaced any bits on this before? dunno if best to order all the bits in diagram or just bushes

Edited by esprit22
more info

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, the pins are very smoothly finished to start, for the sake of bushes' longevity. If your pins have long been in service they are likely corroded, pitted on the surface which will diminish the lifespan of subsequent bushes. Wise owner does not skimp on Lotus maintenance, particularly when it's a matter of small change parts.

Cheers 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yep, reckon you speak with un-forked tongue my friend, will change the lot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

250504051_Screenshot2019-05-21at9_58_19AM.thumb.png.270fb5bc3884e7930307179df9b6fd31.png

Minimum you'll need is 3 sets of parts no 23 & 24 which is the following from SJ Sportscars

1073633173_Screenshot2019-05-21at9_57_50AM.thumb.png.d1ba61c58e7b92e3bdcabb491080f7fe.png

You may also need part no. 40 if it's worn or sloppy. If not, just dismantle and re-grease. But for just a mere £5, it's probably false economy not to order that at the same time. I believe this is the correct part number for that.

1242542196_Screenshot2019-05-21at10_04_32AM.png.35a0985e78954e9e4860840b20381343.png

 

Edited by ekwan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Chris, 

do a search in IGUS bearings. Quite a few pple have upgraded throughtout and/ in specific areas to these and seem happy.

definitely worth doing all of them, and even those under the gearstick arent as difficult as you'd maybe think...just a bit fiddly

have fun 😉

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, DaveyT said:

Chris, 

do a search in IGUS bearings. Quite a few pple have upgraded throughtout and/ in specific areas to these and seem happy.

definitely worth doing all of them, and even those under the gearstick arent as difficult as you'd maybe think...just a bit fiddly

have fun 😉

Do you need any addition honing work?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I changed all mine on my 86 s3 using the bushes from SJ as above. It does make a big difference, and mine were no where near as bad as yours :)
Easy Job

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for all advice guys, not gonna have time to do before Castle Combe unfortunately, looks to be easier to do from top rather than underneath, did you find that?

Don't think needs honing, as not taken apart yet.

Edited by esprit22
more info

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, 910Esprit said:

Also worth changing the sleeve bolts too (item 22), they will be worn and corroded and are not expensive.

These are available as M7 or M8 thread, does it matter which ones?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, 910Esprit said:

Yes, the one at the back is 7mm the 2 on the relay lever are 8mm!

No way!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Everything ordered, grease or silicon on the bushes?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Chris,

I suspect any sort of grease might be counterproductive, if applied in quantities. The plastic parts are inherently self-lubricating on polished steel pins and I wonder whether smears of grease might retain grime and dust, working into the contact surfaces over time. If anything perhaps barely a film of something on the steel to head off corrosion? Let's hear from the wise men in this group!

I believe Eric's query regarding honing was in relation to substituting the IGUS bearings for the OEM kit. Some here have fitted them with interesting results, including a cautionary point or two.

By the way, still have the Classic & Thoroughbred, ca. 1996, which featured your car amongst other fine examples of Esprit and it's a treat to kibbutz after all these years.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, drdoom said:

Chris,

I suspect any sort of grease might be counterproductive, if applied in quantities. The plastic parts are inherently self-lubricating on polished steel pins and I wonder whether smears of grease might retain grime and dust, working into the contact surfaces over time. If anything perhaps barely a film of something on the steel to head off corrosion? Let's hear from the wise men in this group!

I believe Eric's query regarding honing was in relation to substituting the IGUS bearings for the OEM kit. Some here have fitted them with interesting results, including a cautionary point or two.

By the way, still have the Classic & Thoroughbred, ca. 1996, which featured your car amongst other fine examples of Esprit and it's a treat to kibbutz after all these years.

Ah yes, I remember it well. Some tall fella asked me if he could drive my car around the track, I was a tad bothered so said that he could but to take it easy as it was a 'proper car'. He was in fact Tony Dron.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The original bushings work well enough if they are not damaged.  I just replaced all 3 sets on my S3 plus the centre pivot bush. If you aren't racing and the car is a leisure / weekender vehicle, I'd stick to original parts. They are cheap enough to replace, easy to replace and will last for quite a few years.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...