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Superdudes!  And beardy types.  I am about to return my Esprit to the roads of Britain and thought I would give you a bit of a heads up, seeing as you're into this type of thing.  But, please note; a,

So, this is my car in the wild! I took her out for a run, stopped off and McDonalds and couldn't get the engine too start - seemed fuel starved - so I called Nick at Tomorrow's Classics, who came

Visited Nick at Tomorrow's Classics on Friday to see the car, and she is now around 2 weeks from completion.  - A few remaining wires to connect as the car goes back together  - The centre c

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Perhaps people think it's heading for he middle aisle?

They look better in the car to be fair, not as full on as I thought they would be. 

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And I have quite a chrome-y car (for an Esprit). But, all opinions are equally valid. I know that there is a school of thought that I should be taken away and re-educated. With a stick.

Wait until you see what I've replaced the VDO digital clock with (I'm holding off slightly, because even I'm fearful of the backlash.)

Could be worse though, I could've gone full Ghost in the Shell (although, I'd have needed an S3 for that).

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11 hours ago, Bibs said:

Perhaps people think it's heading for he middle aisle?

They look better in the car to be fair, not as full on as I thought they would be. 

I’ll let you know what they look like in the flesh in due course. I’m taking my best hairbrush with me and I’ll see how good they are as a mirror 🙌

5 hours ago, Suddabym said:

Wait until you see what I've replaced the VDO digital clock with (I'm holding off slightly, because even I'm fearful of the backlash.)

No backlash chap - that’s a gearbox thing that some don’t bother setting properly 😜

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Mark, your reimagining of the S2 is a wonder. To blend the original aesthetics with daily driving engineering and some of the more advanced digital and ICT features that the modern world offers has been achieved with a modest balance. Maybe this is the future of classic car stewardship in the coming decades? 

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Well, Robin, that is certainly my thinking. I get the stock argument, of course. But I want to use mine. I want it to look like the original (natch), but work... Not working takes a lot of the fun out of owning a 40 year old car, to my mind.

Just wait til solid state batteries come along 😊

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No, actually, I'm slightly off with what I said above.

It isn't that I want it to work all the time, exactly. It's that I want to have the complete confidence that it will work when I want it to. And not obstinately, in any and all circumstances; blizzards and tsunamis and the like. But, realistically for the car, and repeatably. I want to know I'll get back from wherever I go. 

So it's actually about the confidence that reliability, common sense and a bit of mechanical sympathy buys. That's why I think Restomod is an acceptable way to enjoy classics. Plus, the 5th industrial revolution is kinda gonna force it onto people like us, unless we literally want museum pieces that we can barely use.

The problem with change is, that it keeps changing.

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I'm looking at a CANBUS system for the wiring to ensure reliability . Like you I want a useable car but not the drama elements that  I suspect are mainly wiring related in a car rebuilt with new parts. Not going injection thou as I want something with carbs that will occasionally foul a plug :)

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12 minutes ago, Djs44 said:

I'm looking at a CANBUS system for the wiring to ensure reliability . Like you I want a useable car but not the drama elements that  I suspect are mainly wiring related in a car rebuilt with new parts. Not going injection thou as I want something with carbs that will occasionally foul a plug :)

For a G-Esprit? How would a CANbus be retrofitted to a none ECU-based car? Asking for a friend...

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3 hours ago, Fridge said:

For a G-Esprit? How would a CANbus be retrofitted to a none ECU-based car? Asking for a friend...

It appears to be a self standing unit that is programmed via laptop . It comes with a multiplexed keypad that can be programmed to replicate the switch functions if , for example a switch  fails ... switches etc would only have small current wires back to the canbus .... 

 

Is this acceptable ????

( thought this was interesting in this resto-mod thread ) 

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It appears to be a self standing unit that is programmed via laptop . It comes with a multiplexed keypad that can be programmed to replicate the switch functions if , for example a switch  fails ... switches etc would only have small current wires back to the canbus .... 

 

Is this acceptable ????

Not really. How does it integrate to the Esprit's "analogue" 12V electrical signals eg. engine temperature, oil pressure, and rev counter etc? I assume we're talking about a none ECU S1-S3/Turbo Esprit, without EFI.

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2 minutes ago, Fridge said:

Not really. How does it integrate to the Esprit's "analogue" 12V electrical signals eg. engine temperature, oil pressure, and rev counter etc? I assume we're talking about a none ECU S1-S3/Turbo Esprit, without EFI.

Good questions . Oil pressure is fine as it is by a pipe , presumably the other feeds go from , for example, the temperature sender into the canbus which reads the current and sends a feed out to the water temp gauge  based on how you calibrate it . It looked clever . 

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Have you a link to the device, as I'm intrigued how a simple G car can be retrofitted with a CANbus?

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1 minute ago, Fridge said:

Have you a link to the device, as I'm intrigued how a simple G car can be retrofitted with a CANbus?

It's no retrofit ... i have to fit a new loom anyway so this is one option 

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1 minute ago, Djs44 said:

It's no retrofit ... i have to fit a new loom anyway so this is one option 

It'll be retrofit unless the car had it originally. CANbus technology was developed in 1983 and didn't appear in any car until 1991.

Have you a link, or is it top secret technology? 

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It'll be retrofit unless the car had it originally. CANbus technology was developed in 1983 and didn't appear in any car until 1991.

Have you a link, or is it top secret technology? 

Sorry , what I mean it that you cannot retrofit it to an existing car - it needs to be fitted from scratch . 

The 1977 Autocar test I have of the S1 roadtest has the car breaking down several times due to electrical issues . No desire to replicate that .

No link - it is being developed by Lotusbits 

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1 minute ago, Djs44 said:

Sorry , what I mean it that you cannot retrofit it to an existing car - it needs to be fitted from scratch . 

The 1977 Autocar test I have of the S1 roadtest has the car breaking down several times due to electrical issues . No desire to replicate that .

No link - it is being developed by Lotusbits 

That's interesting. I wonder what they have planned, and what they're intending to send down it.

Considering the simplicity of the original electrics in the G Esprits, there's a significant danger in introducing an even bigger problem if the CANbus stuff fails. Particularly if it is developed and produced on a limited basis without thorough testing.
I'll have to keep a watch out for it, to see what it can do.

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