Evora GT pictures and Mods.

[Snoopy1969]

@Bruss 😂...I see your point.....and of course each one could do what he wants, no problem with that - but I think the base of a Lotus Evora is already very good (room for improvement is everywhere of course) and @au-yt point was that it might be sensible to first "live" with this basis before going on to modify......maybe, j u s t maybe than you recognize that you might be faster with the basis car and your money put in professional instruction hours for a race track times as if you invest the same amount in the car only..... 

[Bruss]

21 minutes ago, Snoopy1969 said:

@Bruss 😂...I see your point.....and of course each one could do what he wants, no problem with that - but I think the base of a Lotus Evora is already very good (room for improvement is everywhere of course) and @au-yt point was that it might be sensible to first "live" with this basis before going on to modify......maybe, j u s t maybe than you recognize that you might be faster with the basis car and your money put in professional instruction hours for a race track times as if you invest the same amount in the car only..... 

Yeah, more than one way to skin a car, pun intended,  and there is something to be said for running a car before deciding how you want to change it. There are though now enough reports on suspension set ups, including Lotus' own gt 430 to give anyone an idea of what they might want to change. I didn't have that advantage and went the way of asking an expert for help in developing a Nitron set up for mine. Ohlins and additional settings to play with still have a strange fascination though. 🙂

[C8RKH]

Ohlins are like good sexy underwear - expensive, fun and worth every penny. Do it! (The ohlins, not the suspenders and silk knickers @Bruss! )

[Bruss]

28 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

Ohlins are like good sexy underwear - expensive, fun and worth every penny. Do it! (The ohlins, not the suspenders and silk knickers @Bruss! )

Done the one, just need to try the other now. 

[ken2020]

On 21/08/2019 at 06:12, xxaarraa said:

I race motorcycles, several of them being Italian. I have done the same - put $10k worth of parts on a $25k bike before it hits the track for the first time. We justify it in the name of racing where every little advantage helps. 

Mostly, it's because "you can" - you have the taste and means so why not? Some people buy $10k handbags and others buy million dollar paintings. It all comes down to "because they can"

OP, more power to you! Keep us posted man! 

I come from the same world.  Every Ducati that I have owned had Öhlins, Termi's. The latest Brembo's and of course. Lots of Carbon Fiber. No point in horsepower if you can put it down and can't slow it down. Just add lightness. Basics!

Suspension and brakes are the most important aspect of the car.  I have the suspension and the J hooks are on the way.  They should have been delivered on the car but the Lotus God didn't make it so.

[ken2020]

Well the Ti exhaust is on and it sounds amazing.  The 3rd Cat is gone thanks to the GRP Cat Delete.  Starting to turn more blue after a few miles. Need to get on it and get it hot. The sound is just about perfect for a daily driver. Quite a difference over the stock with the extra cat.  Now to install the cold air intake.

[ken2020]

How to add lightness to your Evora? Öhlins Motorsport Dampers!   I couldn't believe it but it is a 27 lbs/12.24kg difference.  I would have never guessed. The car finally has the proper look and profile of the ride height. Traction is greatly improved. Putting the power down is instantaneous. As the hooker says "Handles like it's on rails!"

[ken2020]

This is better than a treadmill. How to lose 27lbs of unsprung weight. 

[Julian73]

1 hour ago, ken2020 said:

How to add lightness to your Evora? Öhlins Motorsport Dampers!   I couldn't believe it but it is a 27 lbs/12.24kg difference.  I would have never guessed. The car finally has the proper look and profile of the ride height. Traction is greatly improved. Putting the power down is instantaneous. As the hooker says "Handles like it's on rails!"

 

 

 

 

Did you have the change the mounts like the factory Ohlins, or do these have different 'eyes'?

On 21/08/2019 at 01:07, au-yt said:

Sorry, what I don’t get is why people want modify a car before it’s even been run in or driven any distance to appreciate what it is like to start with.

1. Because he is trying to replicate what Lotus offered on the GT430 that Europe got whereas we, in the US, got a neutered version called the GT

2. Because he can

[The Pits]

Great to see the dampers on the scales to back up Lotus's claim. GT4 mounts also save further weight over the originals.

I agree with the principle of trying the car stock before modding to get a baseline reference (which Ken has done anyway!) but in this instance if you want the full GT430 experience, you need the Ohlins TTX.

[ken2020]

9 hours ago, Julian73 said:

Did you have the change the mounts like the factory Ohlins, or do these have different 'eyes'?

1. Because he is trying to replicate what Lotus offered on the GT430 that Europe got whereas we, in the US, got a neutered version called the GT

2. Because he can

I did change the mounts. The hardware for the Bilstein is smaller diameter and heavier.

#2 is Awesome. Something that the factory doesn't seem to appreciate and tries to up roadblocks everywhere to deter us. Yet, they take my money!

 

7 hours ago, The Pits said:

Great to see the dampers on the scales to back up Lotus's claim. GT4 mounts also save further weight over the originals.

I agree with the principle of trying the car stock before modding to get a baseline reference (which Ken has done anyway!) but in this instance if you want the full GT430 experience, you need the Ohlins TTX.

Yes, Indeed. Mounts are changed. The car is absolutely night and day different.   

Edited September 18, 2019 by ken2020

[ken2020]

On 21/08/2019 at 01:07, au-yt said:

Sorry, what I don’t get is why people want modify a car before it’s even been run in or driven any distance to appreciate what it is like to start with.

@au-yt   I just want the car that I ordered from Lotus and that they were suppose to supply.  We know that didn't happen.  That doesn't stop me from getting what I want.  I'm just taking the hard way. More to come!

[phenoyz]

what model is your ohlins? is is one of these?

http://hethelsport.com/suspension/ohlins-ttx/

or

https://www.sbsuspension.com/

where did you buy the "mounts"?

thanks

 

[Julian73]

8 hours ago, phenoyz said:

what model is your ohlins? is is one of these?

http://hethelsport.com/suspension/ohlins-ttx/

or

https://www.sbsuspension.com/

where did you buy the "mounts"?

thanks

 

Ken2020 IS SB Suspension, mounts are included in the Kit.  But those suppliers provide the same ILX36 Ohlins

Edited September 23, 2019 by Julian73

[KG]

The Ohlins Kit is from MGR in the UK, same outfit that makes them for Lotus. SBS Suspension is the US Ohlins dealer for the same kit here. That’s where I am heading to install mine.

[ken2020]

On 23/09/2019 at 00:27, phenoyz said:

what model is your ohlins? is is one of these?

http://hethelsport.com/suspension/ohlins-ttx/

or

https://www.sbsuspension.com/

where did you buy the "mounts"?

thanks

 

The shocks are on my website www.sbsuspension.com    The shocks that I sell are the Ohlins ILX36 which are 100% the same as the specifications for the GT430. All brackets are supplied.  I have worked closely with MGR to give the US customers complete factory support.  I am a US based Ohlins dealer that also contracts support to OhlinsUSA in motorsport racing.  Most importantly, I'm a Lotus enthusiast that wants the same handling for your Evora as I do for my Evora.  

[Corsu]

On public road, the ride is it not to rough with that ? Il looks great but i'm afraid that comfort is much degraded.

[EGTE]

Ohlins Road & Tracks certainly tend to have way too-stiff springs (for UK roads, at least), from reviews I have read.

[Julian73]

8 hours ago, EGTE said:

Ohlins Road & Tracks certainly tend to have way too-stiff springs (for UK roads, at least), from reviews I have read.

This is a generic statement and following that logic the GT430 suspension using the TTX36 Trackday and Motorsport product would be terrible for the street, however this is the unit that Lotus tuned for standard fitment on the GT430 track biased car, GT430 Sport road car and optional on the GT410 Sport road car.  Best place to read opinions of the suitibility of this setup is in the GT430 club posts herein, I have no read a single review that states the car is terrible on the road.

[ken2020]

16 hours ago, Corsu said:

On public road, the ride is it not to rough with that ? Il looks great but i'm afraid that comfort is much degraded.

 

4 hours ago, Julian73 said:

This is a generic statement and following that logic the GT430 suspension using the TTX36 Trackday and Motorsport product would be terrible for the street, however this is the unit that Lotus tuned for standard fitment on the GT430 track biased car, GT430 Sport road car and optional on the GT410 Sport road car.  Best place to read opinions of the suitibility of this setup is in the GT430 club posts herein, I have no read a single review that states the car is terrible on the road.

I just did 700 miles on the Ohlins and the ride was fantastic.  I did drive over some bad railroad tracks that moved the car around more than I wanted. It did not bottom or scrape. Just wasn't fun.  Small price to pay for vastly improved drive acceleration and handling so amazing even a working girl on Hollywood Blvd would approve.

[EGTE]

15 hours ago, Julian73 said:

This is a generic statement and following that logic the GT430 suspension using the TTX36 Trackday and Motorsport product would be terrible for the street, however this is the unit that Lotus tuned for standard fitment on the GT430 track biased car, GT430 Sport road car and optional on the GT410 Sport road car.  Best place to read opinions of the suitibility of this setup is in the GT430 club posts herein, I have no read a single review that states the car is terrible on the road.

No it isn't a generic statement; it's the expert opinion of "Center Gravity" in the UK; an extremely well-regarded company known for its expertise in car suspension set-up. Nor did I say the TTX36 would be terrible for the street.

You're in the USA and tastes over there tend to favour much-higher spring-rates than in the UK. I'm trying to give some balance to your comments. I have first-hand experience of other high-quality makes and think that Ohlins-worship can be rather over-done and ignores other options.

 

[Julian73]

3 hours ago, EGTE said:

No it isn't a generic statement; it's the expert opinion of "Center Gravity" in the UK; an extremely well-regarded company known for its expertise in car suspension set-up. Nor did I say the TTX36 would be terrible for the street.

You're in the USA and tastes over there tend to favour much-higher spring-rates than in the UK. I'm trying to give some balance to your comments. I have first-hand experience of other high-quality makes and think that Ohlins-worship can be rather over-done and ignores other options.

 

By generic I mean a general opinion of Ohlins being terrible for the street versus a review of the GT430 ride with Ohlins.  While I may live in the United States, I never had a taste for cars with high spring rates and never owned one of those beasts; I have always preferred the Lotus philosophy of over dampen a softly sprung chassis.

[EGTE]

I never said that any of that, Julian.

Read again and you'll see it was a comment about R&Ts, not TTX36s, plus a comment about general tastes in the USA, not you specifically.

[ken2020]

8 hours ago, EGTE said:

No it isn't a generic statement; it's the expert opinion of "Center Gravity" in the UK; an extremely well-regarded company known for its expertise in car suspension set-up. Nor did I say the TTX36 would be terrible for the street.

You're in the USA and tastes over there tend to favour much-higher spring-rates than in the UK. I'm trying to give some balance to your comments. I have first-hand experience of other high-quality makes and think that Ohlins-worship can be rather over-done and ignores other options.

 

Why would anyone be married to a single spring rate? I have hundreds of springs in stock for many street and racing applications. The springs on the Öhlins for the Evora are very universal fit. They use a common 2 inch I.D. spring configuration.  So you can have any spring rate choice that you desire. I can have all four springs changed on the car by myself in less than a hour.  Choices off the top of my head are Öhlins, Eibach and Hyperco! Available all over the world from many suppliers!

[ken2020]

8 hours ago, EGTE said:

No it isn't a generic statement; it's the expert opinion of "Center Gravity" in the UK; an extremely well-regarded company known for its expertise in car suspension set-up. Nor did I say the TTX36 would be terrible for the street.

You're in the USA and tastes over there tend to favour much-higher spring-rates than in the UK. I'm trying to give some balance to your comments. I have first-hand experience of other high-quality makes and think that Ohlins-worship can be rather over-done and ignores other options.

 

Öhlins worship can never be over done😜  When the best is the best. Why bother with others!   That was a fun sarcastic reply but the reason Öhlins is the best is one simple reason. "Product Support!"  No other manufacturer goes to the lengths to give support to tuners and technicians. The data bases and valving charts are always available.  The piston choices and valve stack information can be had for all types of racing. The speed that valving can be changed at the track is second to none.  I've worked on many, many shock brands and only a single shock manufacturer keeps coming back as #1.