ratmbe 2 Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Good evening, I am looking to buy some for the house. Could you tell me that there is no risk that the car will tip over or for me. https://twinbusch.fr/product_info.php?products_id=14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vd9 149 Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 If they are comfortable with 911 not tipping over, Exige V6 will definitely be fine. Also it shows no noticeable imbalance when lifted by a trolley jack. I'd be fairly confident. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andydclements 753 Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 It's impossible to say that it would not /could not happen, but it does appear to have a mechanical fail-safe mechanism in the form of the hooks along the bottom, so if the hydraulics failed it shouldn't come down. Lotus tend to be very even weight distribution front to rear, so with that ramp it looks at though the centre of mass will be within the area of the supports even when at full support. I think that I'd probably also put some very tall axle stands in place if I was to use something of that type. That said, I use Carstages, and even then put mechanical chocks in addition to the ramps which do that, and the weight of the car which is what primarily keeps it from tipping. So I'm probably over-cautious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ratmbe 2 Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 otherwise I can look at the following model, but feel less reassured http://shop.forestar.be/fr/materiel-de-levage-/5818-dalle-vibrante-90kg.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ratmbe 2 Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 we must remove the flat bottom? there was a kit for S2 requires to strengthen the rear amount but especially avoid disassembling the flat bottom for work on the brakes for example Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vd9 149 Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 You only need to make sure you lift it with the contact on the points marked at the underside of the car (same as with the trolley jack). If anything, you can just use rubber pads with the scissor lift you're looking at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark030358 594 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Can I ask a stupid question about these scissor lifts. They look to me as though they are just like a normal ramp, and run parallel to the side of the car. How can they possibly pick up the from and reat lifting points as I am assuming you can't just use the cenral one. cheers sorry just fixed a typo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 6,848 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 https://liftech.uk.com/collections/2-post-lifts/products/one-side-release-2-post-lift-car-vehicle-ramp-4-tonne my new one should be with me next week - can’t wait 1 Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
RoflOnMyWaffle 320 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 A friend of mine is selling his 2 car lifts from his unit to clear space for shelving. I'm not trying to side track this thread, but it might be of use to someone who finds it - he assures me they are some of the best money can buy - but you'd have to do your own research! If you reach out, just tell him Mike sent you https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223759234736 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223759204537 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrTroy 6 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 Have you seen the QuickJacks? Goonzquad use them a lot (youtubers), they look pretty effective. https://www.costco.co.uk/Tyres-Automotive/Automotive/Trolley-Jacks-Axle-Stands/QuickJack-Portable-Automatic-Car-Lift-System-Jack-2268kg-Capacity-Model-BL-5000SLX/p/1268102 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 6,848 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Finally ordered mine tonight...... can’t wait for it to arrive Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
ratmbe 2 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I had seen time compensators to place between the flat bottom and the chassis to not have to remove the flat bottom when for example we want to work on the running gear. No way to fall back on these pieces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
550superfast 446 Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 06:53, Mark030358 said: Can I ask a stupid question about these scissor lifts. They look to me as though they are just like a normal ramp, and run parallel to the side of the car. How can they possibly pick up the from and reat lifting points as I am assuming you can't just use the cenral one. cheers sorry just fixed a typo it is not a stupid question at all, probably why nobody has answered. Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/400superamerica Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 6,848 Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Most of these scissor style ramps which go inbetween the front and rear wheels - they simply lift under the cill sections - it really makes me shudder when I see them in the garages I work at with wooden blocks on them to “protect” the cills. Horrible things Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
550superfast 446 Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 But the sill area in general isn't a jacking point. So why would you put the entire car weight on it? Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/400superamerica Link to post Share on other sites
Mark030358 594 Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, 550superfast said: But the sill area in general isn't a jacking point. So why would you put the entire car weight on it? Exactly my point, unless you can pick up more of the jacking points its a big issue (gamble?) cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 6,848 Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mark030358 said: Exactly my point, unless you can pick up more of the jacking points its a big issue (gamble? 1 hour ago, 550superfast said: But the sill area in general isn't a jacking point. So why would you put the entire car weight on it? Yes that’s right - I certainly wouldn’t put any of my cars on such a device. At least with a two post you can pick up proper lifting points Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
550superfast 446 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Where/how does your two post lift pick up the jacking points? Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/400superamerica Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 6,848 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Not even looked at the Evora yet - don’t even know where the jacking points are. On the Esprit I use hockey pucks and it works absolutely great and picks up the lifting points inboard of the front and rear wheels. Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
550superfast 446 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Right. So does anyone with an exige know how to lift safely? What with this being and exige chat. I’d like to do it. But my mechanic says it’s not safe. Not just for lifting points. But for rear biased weight distribution. Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/400superamerica Link to post Share on other sites
Maxi_z 106 Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 The exige V6 can NOT be lifted with those scissor lifts in a normal and approved way.... Be careful as if you lift an exige v6 the rear end weight distribution would make it fall from the lift also have a look at the lotus documented lifting points and how they work as you should not just use the 4 center points indicated by stickers on any type of lift 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hangar 111 301 Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Maxi_z said: The exige V6 can NOT be lifted with those scissor lifts in a normal and approved way.... Be careful as if you lift an exige v6 the rear end weight distribution would make it fall from the lift Nonsense. Exige V6 is fine on scissor lift if done properly and safely. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 6,848 Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 I’m not sure the exige has an engine which sits as far back as the rear light clusters..... so should be fine on both scissor and two post lifts Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
andydclements 753 Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 The weight distribution seems to be 65-68 % rear 35%-32% front, so that puts the centre of mass 2/3 of the way from the front wheels towards the rear wheels. You'd have to remove a lot from the front of the car which seems to put it well within the area bounded by the four corners of the lift. So, like Barry & Dave I cannot see how it's unstable unless a lot of additional weight is applied to the rear/ the front has a lot removed from it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark030358 594 Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 If the scissor lift has adjustable (spreadable) arms, or like Barrys is a two post lift then provided you can get to the front and rear lifting points then will be ok. However I fail to see how the types with just parallel ramps sitting between the wheels would work and pick up the correct mounting points. I think this is also what @550superfast is also alluding to. cheers Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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