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Seriously - don’t even bother. Get your unit professionally recored at a decent rad shop. you can get lucky with Chinese stuff - or be unlucky and it goes porous within months

I used to use them on my tzr250 race bike and the quality was never amazing and it once pin holed halfway through a race at Oulton park and seized the engine down the back straight.  As above, some st

Cheers guys, sounds like the Chinese need to improve before I consider them a competitive option then!!!🤔

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Seriously - don’t even bother. Get your unit professionally recored at a decent rad shop.

you can get lucky with Chinese stuff - or be unlucky and it goes porous within months

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This is a hot topic lately over on a forum hosted in America. Those who have tried the alloy rads generally report failure in lines with Barry's advice. The most experienced independent specialist in Vancouver also concurs entirely with Barry's view. That said, one  chap in the U.S. has just opted to have an alloy rad, made by Wizard in America, installed. The cheap pricing naturally draws interest but consensus is that they fail too rapidly in Esprit applications for whatever reasons. Another cheap alternative for the S2-on cars with tilted rads of the more common form is that found in 88-91 (roughly) Jeep Cherokee 4.0l vehicles. It is about the right size overall though requires some hose adaptation, is constructed in typical manner with plastic end tanks on an alloy core. Dirt cheap on EBay over here and one gent reports lasting success in his use of it.

All in all I'm mindful of the consequences of getting this wrong on an Esprit. Quite the situation to find oneself far, far from home on a road trip with cooling system failing given the Esprit layout. So case is made for durability as paramount, no?

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I used to use them on my tzr250 race bike and the quality was never amazing and it once pin holed halfway through a race at Oulton park and seized the engine down the back straight.  As above, some stuff is fine, other stuff not so.

 

however, in k series engine circles they use chinese manufactured  max speeding connecting rods at £360 a set of 4 and they have worked perfectly with no known failures.  I on the other hand have £3000 Carrillo rods for my v8  (ok, £1500 comparison as I have 8......) and they don’t even fit.!!!

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1 hour ago, Mightymetro said:

.  I on the other hand have £3000 Carrillo rods for my v8  (ok, £1500 comparison as I have 8......) and they don’t even fit.!!!

I’ve got an angle grinder you can borrow

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2 hours ago, Ginger pig said:

Cheers guys, sounds like the Chinese need to improve before I consider them a competitive option then!!!🤔

No No No, we need guinea pigs to try some of the brands.🥴 Our Chinese friends CAN make quality stuff, but it's so difficult to tell what is good.

 

I too have heard of alloy radiators in Esprits failing. I have only re-cored ours.

 

That said, I assisted another Esprit owner with installing the Wizard alloy radiator/Spal fan package/bundle. It looked well-made but was missing one fitting that we had to source locally to complete the job.😡

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Whilst we're on the subject of coolant rads, the cheap Chinese silicone hose set I bought and fitted turned out to be useless. Trying to get them to seal on a pipe was very difficult indeed. So much so, I reverted back to the standard rubber hoses.

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6 hours ago, Chillidoggy said:

Whilst we're on the subject of coolant rads, the cheap Chinese silicone hose set I bought and fitted turned out to be useless. Trying to get them to seal on a pipe was very difficult indeed. So much so, I reverted back to the standard rubber hoses.

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This is, indeed an issue.  Makes the practice of sealing the joints with non-hardening Hylomar a MUST.

 

A couple owners in the USA reported silicone hose failure (leaking in the MIDDLE of the hose length)! :thumbdown: Turns out these were eBay 'specials'...so Buyer Beware.

 

If you are in the USA, the silicone hoses sold by Esprit parts specialist JAE Parts are robust. My engine-bay silicone set from JAE is still going strong after 10 years. (Had to tighten a few clamps ONCE.) 

I just used rubber hoses up front, as the temps at that end are not as severe.

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I’ve changed every single coolant related hose on my car since I bought it. Some of those I removed were stamped with 1995 as the date of manufacture. I figured if they’d lasted over 20 years, the new rubber hoses must last another 20 years, by which time I’ll be past caring. They also seal properly, too. As it happens I prefer the less showy look of the black rubber hoses, so that’s a bonus.

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My experience of almost anything from China is very poor quality and a waste of money and effort.  There is a morality issue as well, I would not buy from China  because of the human rights issues even if the quality was ok.    I got my alloy rad through SJS, absolutely superb. Apparently the makers also supply F1 teams so what else do you need to know.  A bit of a pig job so you don't want to do it twice if you can avoid it. 

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How do you know if it really isn't made in China to begin with? I'm always going OCD researching to make sure, however, lately it's been a struggle even with name brands that say or have print on the packaging "made in Germany, U.K. Belgium" BUT...... on closer inspection, I start to see "designed, subsidiary, parent company..etc....etc..." I try to buy quality, all the time, but I get frustrated with confusing advertising, just say'in when you receive parts or shop it requires superior investigation to ensure it truly is quality made in ....(usually) Europe part 

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16 minutes ago, canamfan said:

How do you know if it really isn't made in China to begin with?

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My experience of almost anything from China is very poor quality and a waste of money and effort. 

You can't just assume that is the case.

 

 

Lately, we have noticed:

WIX's Esprit oil filters are no longer made in the USA, they are made in China.  Same with Mann and ACDelco filters (fitments for the wife's Jaguar).

 

Still, if a company changes its point of manufacture, that plant should be producing to the OEMs quality specifications, so "Made in China" isn't necessarily an automatic disqualification.

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