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Hello All,

 

Many moons ago i came to this forum looking to trade in my Audi for an Evora. A number of things happened which meant i could not complete. But now i'm back and pretty adamant this is the time to buy one. 

In part i just wanted to say Hi and that i'm hopefully going to be joining the club very soon!

Beyond that i wanted to get some advice on the following specs / cars. When i was searching before this forum was amazing and even threw up some cars people might sell / would be selling that matched my criteria. 

Criteria

I'm looking at the 30k range and ideally an IPS as i live in London and it just makes life easier. I'd be willing to spend more for the right packages (sports + tech + premium). From what i've read i should really be looking for the sport at a minimum and the tech as a bonus. My intention is to swap at normal double din out for apple play and connect my dash cams in so not too fussed. 

 

Potential Option

I've found a few cars that i'm interested in including the following:

 

General Questions

Beyond this i've toyed with the idea of a MY12 due to the changes that were made but given i'm looking at an IPS i don't think the gear linkage issue really impacts me and the rest seems cosmetic. 

Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks,

J

 

 

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What's a warranty? When I bought mine from what was then Murray Lotus in Edinburgh, it was 4 years and 3 months old with 32k miles on the clock and all I got was 1 month's cover for 'major mechan

@Audiconvert that looks a decent example on paper. It's an "ex-Lotus" car and seems to have spent a while in their hands. That might explain the later head unit and also the exhaust. The exhaust looks

You may be better talking to a specialist Lotus dealer rather than a multi franchised national one. Lotus Silverstone and Bell & Covell  usually have some good examples and will give you stra

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@Audiconvert that looks a decent example on paper. It's an "ex-Lotus" car and seems to have spent a while in their hands. That might explain the later head unit and also the exhaust. The exhaust looks to be from an Evora S, which has a fruitier sound than what it would have originally come with. It may have also had the 3rd Cat removed too.

It has all 3 packs, Premium, sport and Tech which is a bonus. Just on price, I'd put it at worth potentially the difference (on paper) compared to the other linked. 

Good luck with your search. 

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I saw this as well (the red one) and though priced at 27 it really lacks any additionals sadly (no packages at all).

 

I do think the white one is slightly overpriced at tech + prem package but felt like that was the additional for being an approved car. Sadly speaking with them just now only has a 3 month warranty.

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20 minutes ago, JAWS said:

@Audiconvert that looks a decent example on paper. It's an "ex-Lotus" car and seems to have spent a while in their hands. That might explain the later head unit and also the exhaust. The exhaust looks to be from an Evora S, which has a fruitier sound than what it would have originally come with. It may have also had the 3rd Cat removed too.

It has all 3 packs, Premium, sport and Tech which is a bonus. Just on price, I'd put it at worth potentially the difference (on paper) compared to the other linked. 

Good luck with your search. 

Thanks for this really appreciate the response and your information. 

 

So i spoke with the dealer and got something that conflicts slightly so would appreciate your information / others here. The exhaust he said was a standard one which doesn't tally with my information or what you are saying (he coupled this with the fact there was no sport pack on it). My question is why would it have an Evora S exhaust and Evora S wheels (he also said this was from factory but i initially though they were standard Evora wheels).

 

Agree with the paper vs. actual analysis. This car has been for sale for a while now so imagine others are conducting the same exercise / struggling to derive the bits on the car. 

 

J

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Welcome Josh. 

An Evora will run 4 rings around your Audi. 

I am also looking at an IPS but most likely in 2021. I will keep my NA Evora 2010 manual, as I love it so much. I live in and around London and don't find the manual too bad but 30 mins of stop/start, the clutch can be a bit heavy. I think the manuals got a lighter clutch feel from 2012 onwards.

I have driven a S IPS and a 400 IPS. I found the S IPS a bit slow for the gearchanges; probably enough to annoy me but obviously I have not lived with it so I may get use to it if I bought one. I would suggest you drive an IPS before buying. I am sure Bell and Colvill will oblige. I was super-impressed with the 400 IPS and I also drive a twin-clutch flappy paddle so I am used something fast on the changes. Perhaps that is why I found the S IPS a bit lacking and you should get in one and see if it does the job for you. And whilst you are at it, drive a manual...……..

Plenty of info on TLF, the thread about NA vs S was a good one for info and plenty of other threads on the subject options.

The good news is, at the sub-£30K price point you are looking at, if you buy well, you are very unlikely to lose much on it, so if you don't like it (IE. you are insane), you can get out at near what you came in at. The NA are particularly popular, as many don't want 345bhp+. NA are surprisingly quick (some say the best Evora made). 

Good luck and keep us informed.

Justin

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18 minutes ago, jep said:

Welcome Josh. 

An Evora will run 4 rings around your Audi. 

I am also looking at an IPS but most likely in 2021. I will keep my NA Evora 2010 manual, as I love it so much. I live in and around London and don't find the manual too bad but 30 mins of stop/start, the clutch can be a bit heavy. I think the manuals got a lighter clutch feel from 2012 onwards.

I have driven a S IPS and a 400 IPS. I found the S IPS a bit slow for the gearchanges; probably enough to annoy me but obviously I have not lived with it so I may get use to it if I bought one. I would suggest you drive an IPS before buying. I am sure Bell and Colvill will oblige. I was super-impressed with the 400 IPS and I also drive a twin-clutch flappy paddle so I am used something fast on the changes. Perhaps that is why I found the S IPS a bit lacking and you should get in one and see if it does the job for you. And whilst you are at it, drive a manual...……..

Plenty of info on TLF, the thread about NA vs S was a good one for info and plenty of other threads on the subject options.

The good news is, at the sub-£30K price point you are looking at, if you buy well, you are very unlikely to lose much on it, so if you don't like it (IE. you are insane), you can get out at near what you came in at. The NA are particularly popular, as many don't want 345bhp+. NA are surprisingly quick (some say the best Evora made). 

Good luck and keep us informed.

Justin

Thanks appreciate the information!!!

I do love the idea of a manual also means the options available are far greater (not many IPS around). The only blocker is that it will be my only car (very much a weekend driver) and i need my Fiance to by able to drive when i can't so an auto feels like a better option. My slushbox on the Audi was very unresponsive (even in sport) so do want to try and get a test in on the IPS incase i really feel its frustrating. 

 

Thanks,

Josh

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35 minutes ago, Audiconvert said:

Thanks for this really appreciate the response and your information. 

 

So i spoke with the dealer and got something that conflicts slightly so would appreciate your information / others here. The exhaust he said was a standard one which doesn't tally with my information or what you are saying (he coupled this with the fact there was no sport pack on it). My question is why would it have an Evora S exhaust and Evora S wheels (he also said this was from factory but i initially though they were standard Evora wheels).

 

Agree with the paper vs. actual analysis. This car has been for sale for a while now so imagine others are conducting the same exercise / struggling to derive the bits on the car. 

 

J

Sounds like the dealer doesn't know much about Evoras or even that particular one. 

The fact it shows in 1 photo the sport light on, I think gives the game away it has the sport pack, let alone the black calipers, rear diffuser and sport button. 

The wheels are cast high power silver wheels which were standard fit from the Evoras' conception. Not a unique 'S' wheel. 

As for the exhaust, there are multiple reasons that it has the Evora S silencer as the car was in Lotus" hands for at least 11,200 miles of its life so could have been used for many purposes. 

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16 minutes ago, Audiconvert said:

i need my Fiance to by able to drive when i can't so an auto feels like a better option

I think the manual would be tough on those who are not in the car for all the fun that perhaps the owner is. That is a polite way of saying, it is not for girls. The clutch is heavy, certainly on pre-12 cars if mine is anything to go by. I think the IPS is a much wiser option in such a circumstance. 

Perhaps the soon-to-be Mrs should drive both prior to purchase? You never know...…..

Justin

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You may be better talking to a specialist Lotus dealer rather than a multi franchised national one.

Lotus Silverstone and Bell & Covell  usually have some good examples and will give you straight information & answers

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IMG_0788.thumb.jpg.3931d6fe95da9f910f757c4c88a107c2.jpgI loved the (Lotus owned) 2010? NA manual they lent me briefly, it’s by no means underpowered and the clutch wasn’t heavy in my opinion. I was hooked, they obviously knew exactly what they were doing!
My current manual S has more grunt but is not necessarily improved as much as one might hope by the marginal increase in HP. 
Its a beautiful car regardless (as I was reminded driving back home through central London last Sunday, hearing several “wow”s and one “that’s such a nice looking car” from tourists).

As above, try the IPS, they don’t suffer from the slightly agricultural drivetrain noises you get in the manuals at low rpm, and they are rare.

You should prepare yourself in advance for people letting you into traffic, something as an Audi driver you may be quite unaccustomed to. ;)

 

good luck!

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1 hour ago, Cdm2018 said:

The OP original post of a car at JCT600 is a lotus dealer in Leeds I would had thought they offer 12 month warranty as they did when I had visited the place to view a Evora about 2 years ago 

So this is what i thought but the chap on the phone said that it was 3 months and the 12 months warranty would cost an additional 450GBP.

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Is it not nearly a 10year old car? Really don’t think you can expect a 12 month warranty on such a thing

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1 hour ago, Barrykearley said:

Is it not nearly a 10year old car? Really don’t think you can expect a 12 month warranty on such a thing

Yup totally understand and I’m just thought I’d flag what came up on the call. 

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I know the car I had viewed been on their stock list for months ( although they made out differently) so I guess they were wanting to provide incentive to shift it ? 
it wasn’t the car for me and to be honest didn’t gel with the place so I walked away 

when I bought my red Evora NA 10  from Snows they gave me 12 month warranty not much quibble glad I had as my starter motor had get replaced just after a couple of months and less than 1k of driving 

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20 hours ago, Barrykearley said:

Is it not nearly a 10year old car? Really don’t think you can expect a 12 month warranty on such a thing

 

18 hours ago, Audiconvert said:

Yup totally understand and I’m just thought I’d flag what came up on the call. 

Actually Warranty Direct offer a Policy that, for a New one, will cover cars up to 12 years/120,000 miles and renewals up to 15 years or 150,000 miles.

I'm sure you'll probably be able to find others - although the cover may not be as extensive as for a much younger car.

Here's the link https://www.warrantydirect.co.uk/vehicle-warranty/car-warranty you can download the sample policy document 

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At that price, I'd definitely want a 12-month warranty. 

Or you haggle it down on price and buy your own, if it's been for sale a while.

It's not massively over-priced, didn't mean to imply that.

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On ‎28‎/‎02‎/‎2020 at 22:15, Barrykearley said:

Is it not nearly a 10year old car? Really don’t think you can expect a 12 month warranty on such a thing

What's a warranty?

When I bought mine from what was then Murray Lotus in Edinburgh, it was 4 years and 3 months old with 32k miles on the clock and all I got was 1 month's cover for 'major mechanical items'. This apparent 'confidence' in the car has been vindicated as 5 years (tomorrow) and a further 44k miles down the road, the only issue it has had was the clutch master cylinder failing about 18 months ago.

There, that's me blighted it now - I'll go out tomorrow to give it a birthday thrash and the entire drivetrain will explode into a million bits, :o.

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Hi, the JCT car was own by a colleague of mine for about 5 years before he sold it to JCT last year - it's a good one and his ownership experience encouraged me into my Evora :)

The exhaust was always a bit of a mystery, but the head unit was upgraded when motorsport auctions were clearing the old stock for a very reasonable price!

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Lotus Silverstone have a couple of Ips which they have had a for a long time. Might be worth a call to them. They are really good guys and very knowledgeable.

I personally think the ips is great. Yes it's not a dual clutch affair but as slush boxes go it's the best I have driven. Perfect for around town and motorway driving you  will do if you live in London. 

I live just north of london so if you want to come have a look round mine and go put for a passenger ride you are more than welcome. 

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On 28/02/2020 at 10:01, JAWS said:

Sounds like the dealer doesn't know much about Evoras or even that particular one. 

The fact it shows in 1 photo the sport light on, I think gives the game away it has the sport pack, let alone the black calipers, rear diffuser and sport button. 

The wheels are cast high power silver wheels which were standard fit from the Evoras' conception. Not a unique 'S' wheel. 

As for the exhaust, there are multiple reasons that it has the Evora S silencer as the car was in Lotus" hands for at least 11,200 miles of its life so could have been used for many purposes. 

Exactly this. Covers what I was about to say. It looks nice, but is probably priced at an "S" level. If it is a good car and it looks it from the photos and fits your purpose then I don't think its far enough off that it'd put me off. Very easy to save a grand or two only to end up coughing up more to fix things.

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I probably paid 2K over a private purchase for my NA back in 2018 from Bell and Colvill. 8 year old car, full history, fully loaded inc CR box which I really wanted. 12 months no quibble warranty inc clutch. 

14,000 miles later, I am delighted with the decision. Clutch still going at 64,000 miles. Some warranty claims in the first year, probably a grands worth (reversing camera, window regulator, misfire). Roof paint a bit of an issue but it is 10 years old now and with low volume cars, you have to expect a few oddities. 

Personally, I would only buy from a Lotus dealer, the two best are probably Bell Colvill and Silverstone. Unless your dream car comes up privately, 'cos I appreciate IPS are harder to locate but don't let your heart rule!  I was not in a rush and could wait for the right car to pop up. 

Justin 

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Agree with Justin, love my NA LE model to bits and it came from Silverstone Via Giles Cooper who was an ex Lotus and TVR dealer, it had an in depth condition report from Silverstone so I went in with eyes open.

In hindsight having a wife who only drives autos the IPS may have been the fairer choice for us both but loved the whole Launch Edition concept and the fact it’s fully loaded in a stunning colour combo with new clutch done.

Yes the clutch can be a little heavy in prolonged traffic doing the commute but get her on the A and B roads doing what GT’s do best you soon forget the quirks.

Whatever choice people make I doubt you will regret it and probably upgrade in time like so man seem to do.

Dave :) 

Do or do not, there is no try! 

 

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Patience is the key and I know you had a look a time ago but this time round patience still a valuable ally 

I am not a big confidence type of person but if I had the bottle I would ask for what you want and see what the response is ?

as many more experienced folk on here will know the car market at present is very slow and uncertain so any dealership are looking to offload their stock and it’s a question of getting to know or being close to the bottom line price ? Good luck 

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