Brexit

[Barrykearley 6,988]

If they refuse the new 50p - simply give them a 20p and tell them how they are allowed to spend it. Just like being in the EU that 👍

[C8RKH 6,445]

If that's true then it really is pathetic.

As an aside been doing some work in Belfast. Came back to Scotland with an Ulster Bank 10pound note, Sterling 

Went in to shop in Perth and handed it over. What's that was the response. Can't take that.

I said look you're having a laugh aren't you it's a Raheem.

No, can't take it they said 

Absolutely went off on one explaining how ridiculous it was given the bloody whinging from Scots when they get a Scottish note scrutinised in England. Told them to just take it and stop being so pathetic.

Argh.....

[CHANGES 1,224]

All the news about refusing the 50p brexit coin  is just inflated news to create division..   How many people even look at there change let alone inspect each coin..    The news media that still have the platform to promote their own agenda whilst wrapping it up in a news story , are deliberately aggravating the situation on brexit..    Brexit in the main in over, we are out.... No winners No losers , just a political direction brought about by a democratic referendum . This result was debated , ridiculed , undermined and questioned in every possible way, especially by the media , who's ranks did not like the result..  After nearly 4 years of debates countless one sided media interviews and panel shows against the result , a general election was held with the main mandate to uphold the referendum result..  The result of that was conclusive , the people spoke..  We were leaving the EU.  

The problem as i see it is, until the media start getting on board with this , they are going to create false news and ill feeling in the country by what ever means..  Controversy is infectious , almost self destructive, but to them news... !!!   It very much seems that interviewers and the likes of question time hosts within the media have got a dose of overrated self righteous  importance ..  This is particularly evident when you watch the interviews and how they manipulate the narrative giving antonyms responses to factual answers .    I am all for a good debate , but have no time for blinkered self opinionated twats. 

I fear this ill will is hear until the transition period is over..  The media will hound the public with controversy and false news in an attempt to undermine the trade negotiations.. This will be done by inflating a false dialog and encouraging public debate and division. Much the same as they did for the last 4 years.   And to what end..  The last thing they want is WTO , but carry on as they are and they are more likely to get it..    If they could just get behind the Government , public opinion would change , and with a  positive out look our negotiating position would be stronger for trade deals with the EU and rest of the world.  Win Win for all .. ..    

We need to weed out the quisling elements and stride forward to a positive future..          

 

[pete 1,914]

Interesting article in the telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/07/panicked-eu-goes-brexit-meltdown-britain-finally-has-upper-hand/

[C8RKH 6,445]

On 04/02/2020 at 09:31, CHANGES said:

All the news about refusing the 50p brexit coin  is just inflated news to create division..   How many people even look at there change let alone inspect each coin..    The news media that still have the platform to promote their own agenda whilst wrapping it up in a news story , are deliberately aggravating the situation on brexit..    Brexit in the main in over, we are out.... No winners No losers , just a political direction brought about by a democratic referendum . This result was debated , ridiculed , undermined and questioned in every possible way, especially by the media , who's ranks did not like the result..  After nearly 4 years of debates countless one sided media interviews and panel shows against the result , a general election was held with the main mandate to uphold the referendum result..  The result of that was conclusive , the people spoke..  We were leaving the EU.  

The problem as i see it is, until the media start getting on board with this , they are going to create false news and ill feeling in the country by what ever means..  Controversy is infectious , almost self destructive, but to them news... !!!   It very much seems that interviewers and the likes of question time hosts within the media have got a dose of overrated self righteous  importance ..  This is particularly evident when you watch the interviews and how they manipulate the narrative giving antonyms responses to factual answers .    I am all for a good debate , but have no time for blinkered self opinionated twats. 

I fear this ill will is hear until the transition period is over..  The media will hound the public with controversy and false news in an attempt to undermine the trade negotiations.. This will be done by inflating a false dialog and encouraging public debate and division. Much the same as they did for the last 4 years.   And to what end..  The last thing they want is WTO , but carry on as they are and they are more likely to get it..    If they could just get behind the Government , public opinion would change , and with a  positive out look our negotiating position would be stronger for trade deals with the EU and rest of the world.  Win Win for all .. ..    

We need to weed out the quisling elements and stride forward to a positive future..          

 

If you think the UK media media is bad for the rhetoric etc, just logon to SELOC and their threads on Brexit - they are full of self righteous, arrogant bile and hatred and bitterness and I just piss myself laughing reading it all. Every now or then I add a post and sit back and watch the flaming. I'm getting through so much popcorn watching it I can hardly get out of the chair these days!

[tim_marra 479]

I frequent seloc and yeah there is plenty of banter. I have discovered though that behind all the rhetoric there are many fine genuine people on there. Its a good place when you get to know it.

[C8RKH 6,445]

4 minutes ago, tim_marra said:

I frequent seloc and yeah there is plenty of banter. I have discovered though that behind all the rhetoric there are many fine genuine people on there. Its a good place when you get to know it.

I don't think James posts are banter. But heh ho, each to their own.

[Barrykearley 6,988]

[pete 1,914]

On 02/02/2020 at 18:25, C8RKH said:

Ireland and Varadkar in particular have been spouting off for a few months now. I actually think it is because they realise that if it does not go there way the Irish economy is totally fecked.

@gregs24

Varadkar has resigned 

[PaulCP 691]

Fcuking Corbyn & McDonnel, why can’t they just do something constructive and supportive for once in their lives rather than just standing on their soapboxes saying what the Tory govt should do and criticising everything thing that they announce.

Christ, imagine what it would be like if Mr “I can’t make a decision so I’ll just keep sitting on the fence” Corbyn was in charge.

Time to climb down from your political soapboxes and everlasting hate of the Tories and at least try to be supportive for once. You expect the population to be supporting each other, start to show some leadership on that front at least!

[ChrisJ 1,490]

Wasn't sure whether to post this in this or the Wuhan Virus thread: https://www.effiedeans.com/2020/03/the-eu-and-scottish-government-just.html

 

[LotusLeftLotusRight 1,327]

No it hasn’t. That Express report is a f*cking fake news disgrace!

It’s just the ramblings of a former Brexit Party candidate in an interview on Russia Today! Where is the quoted Italian PM? How more fake could it be?

It’s outrageous!

[C8RKH 6,445]

11 minutes ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

No it hasn’t. That Express report is a f*cking fake news disgrace!

It’s just the ramblings of a former Brexit Party candidate in an interview on Russia Today! Where is the quoted Italian PM? How more fake could it be?

It’s outrageous!

I agree, the Express is very bad for this.

[Chillidoggy 4,396]

I read earlier that the EU commission is taking action against the U.K. for breaching freedom of movement rules whilst the Brexit transition period is in force.

[C8RKH 6,445]

You've got to laugh haven't you......

 

"THERESA MAY'S former chief of communications Sir Robbie Gibb revealed during crunch talks with Labour to get Mrs May's Brexit deal through, Labour's then Brexit spokesman, Sir Keir Starmer, rejected a document given him that contained a copied and pasted version of his own proposal. Sir Robbie branded the now Labour leader “disingenuous” as he claimed Sir Keir Starmer rejected his own Brexit proposals when given to him in a copied and pasted document on behalf of Theresa May. He said: “When I was at Number 10 I was sittings in meetings where there were cross-party talks to try to find a consensus to try and get Brexit over the line. 

“And there was an incident where we had presented a potential document for him and the Labour Party to agree to for him to say ‘oh that’s a total disaster’.

“Only for him to be told that it was a cut and paste job from his own document.

“I mean, disingenuous is his middle name I think.”

It comes as ministers have been accused of "rank hypocrisy" over their attitude to key workers as Labour claimed new immigration legislation would make it harder to fill NHS roles.

[Barrykearley 6,988]

Keir starmer - the same bloke whom refused to prosecute jimmy saville - the same bloke whom wishes to brush grooming gangs under the carpet ?? Yeah hes a c....

[KAS-118 229]

I thought it was Starmer who was head of the DPP when they investigated the failings over the many years that this had happened - and found that the CPS were at fault.

I also believe he was the one who said that people who know about such matters - but fail to raise them - should also be held to account. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/04/child-abuse-keir-starmer-prosecute-professionals

Indeed - Paul Gambaccini has issues with Starmer because of the investigations made, following false allegation, carried out when Starmer was head of the CPS - so it seems you're dammed if you do; dammed if you don't - and I guess hindsight is a wonderful thing. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211355/BBC-DJ-demands-Keir-Starmer-apologise-role-historic-sex-abuse-scandal.html

In any event - the failure to investigate properly went over many years - with various different Governments and DPP's in place. 

 

 

Edited May 18, 2020 by KAS-118

[ChrisJ 1,490]

Cyprus has rejected the Canada/EU trade agreement over halloumi.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/08/04/talks-to-begin-with-parties-after-rejection-of-ceta/

Quote

Speaking on condition of anonymity, sources close to the government told the Cyprus Mail they will begin talks with the parties who voted against the ratifying bill, in a bid to “better explain to them” the treaty.

So they need to vote again as they didn't understand what they were voting against - that sounds familiar - although "Last Friday, parliament voted by 37 against and 18 for the treaty; there were no abstentions." is a lot bigger majority than 52/48.

[C8RKH 6,445]

Cheesegate!

I believe the ones who voted against are in for a right good grilling and if they can't agree, a few will be toasted.

[100th_Idiot 361]

They will melt in the heat of debate.

[Chillidoggy 4,396]

Inside view of the EU parliament in Brussels. No wonder everything takes an age to sort out.

 

 

 

[Sparky 2,863]

I blame Claude Palpatine.

[mg4lotus 159]

Is that Farage bottom right?

[100th_Idiot 361]

With his nose buried in the largest trough?

[Chillidoggy 4,396]

As far as I know, there’s been no UK MEP’s in the EU parliament since January, Farage included.