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[Bibs 11,377]

This has had about as much effect as the Millennium Bug! Photographed this today for the papers, Sevington HMRC Lorry Park, aka the Farage Garage!

https://www.espritdroneservices.co.uk/sevington-post-brexit-lorry-park-open-for-business/

 

[Andyww 1,289]

15 minutes ago, Bibs said:

This has had about as much effect as the Millennium Bug! Photographed this today for the papers, Sevington HMRC Lorry Park, aka the Farage Garage!

 

As predicted.

The staff car park is more full than the lorry park!

Strange, no reporting on the BBC on the situation.

Best they could come up with was a report yesterday concerning VAT changes on inbound shipments to the UK which was full of fibs. The VAT scheme they were referring to applies to every country and is nothing to do with Brexit and also applies to the EU. Although the EU postponed its own rollout of it until July. Allegedly postponed because of Covid but more likely to make it look like the UK was going it alone and cutting itself off. The report didnt mention any of this of course.

For my own company I changed our systems for EU countries to the same as all others which took 5 minutes. All our shipments are sent to every country now with absolutely no accompanying paperwork other than label on the box, its all automated.

[LotusLeftLotusRight 1,318]

Great photos. What are we actually looking at here? I can make out about 20 artics and what look like check-points. Are they trucks arriving in the UK or departing? Does this checkpoint replace port/Chunnel checks?

[C8RKH 6,406]

Two points of note @bibs re your pictures. 1. That would make a superb speed trials course area.  2. Why the flip can they not tarmac the real roads that smooth and well?

2 minutes ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

Great photos. What are we actually looking at here? I can make out about 20 artics and what look like check-points. Are they trucks arriving in the UK or departing? Does this checkpoint replace port/Chunnel checks?

It's our new immigration arrivals centre. They come in on the lorries, get a shower, hot food, clothes and help to fill out all the benefit forms then shipped off to new houses in Kent, Surrey and Sussex all courtesy of the UK tax payer which also pays for their "home making" box with essentials including 4k TV's and xboxes and the first three months of home deliveries from Tesco's.  It was going to be a big lorry park apparently due to the impending doom and chaos of Brexit and the lack of customs facilities etc. Sadly, that was not to be so they had to repurpose quickly. Every cloud....

[Chillidoggy 4,386]

I read the government have bought up farmland at Guston (top of the hill from Dover) to act as a kind of Customs clearance centre. There's no reason why the one at Sevington couldn't be used for that, too. Also, they are setting up COVID testing points for lorry drivers so they can have a test and stick two fingers up to Macron.

These parks can also be used to stack lorries in the event the French fishermen or Calais port workers decide they need to take a day off or simply have an even longer lunch break than usual.

[SFO 190]

Remainer press have found it very difficult to find any evidence of the Armageddon they shouted incessantly about for years in the event of Brexit. 

[Barrykearley 6,972]

The end of the world is nigh....

[Chillidoggy 4,386]

Here's one -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721

 

[Andyww 1,289]

23 minutes ago, Chillidoggy said:

Here's one -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721

 

Thats the article I referred to earlier. 

[Chillidoggy 4,386]

4 minutes ago, Andyww said:

Thats the article I referred to earlier. 

Yup, in all it's glory, and to the usual standard.

[Andyww 1,289]

Whats unacceptable is this is not some kind of opinion article, its written by a "business reporter". So you would expect such a person to be fully conversant with the changes and background and not miss out vital information such as the fact its an EU initiative which they delayed, thus making them out of sync with the UK.

So he is either a crap reporter or deliberately witholding some of the facts because they dont fit the narrative.

[C8RKH 6,406]

21 minutes ago, Andyww said:

Whats unacceptable is this is not some kind of opinion article, its written by a "business reporter". So you would expect such a person to be fully conversant with the changes and background and not miss out vital information such as the fact its an EU initiative which they delayed, thus making them out of sync with the UK.

So he is either a crap reporter or deliberately witholding some of the facts because they dont fit the narrative.

I have emailed the BBC "complaints" address to complain about the factually misleading nature of this story. Please feel free to join me - [email protected]

You need to post a link to the story on their website and state your complaint.

The EU's changes are here:  https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/modernising-vat-cross-border-ecommerce_en

If you want to change you need to take action.

[march 829]

2 hours ago, Bibs said:

This has had about as much effect as the Millennium Bug! Photographed this today for the papers, Sevington HMRC Lorry Park, aka the Farage Garage!

https://www.espritdroneservices.co.uk/sevington-post-brexit-lorry-park-open-for-business/

Another bit of the garden of England goes under tarmac ☹️. I hate to say it but I am so glad I don't live there any more. 

[Bibs 11,377]

It was getting turned into an industrial park before this came along, pave paradise and all that

 

[LotusFella 118]

Not a very nice view for the church goers. 🙂

[910Esprit 543]

That last photo is an outrage - I assume thats either a Saxon or Norman church.  May as well convert it to a Macdonalds now for that lorry park

[Bibs 11,377]

1 hour ago, LotusFella said:

Not a very nice view for the church goers. 🙂

I thought they were meant to go on the inside! 

39 minutes ago, 910Esprit said:

That last photo is an outrage - I assume thats either a Saxon or Norman church.  May as well convert it to a Macdonalds now for that lorry park

Norman I believe from the 12th century. It's a very nice church, very similar to the one in my village from the same times.

There's one about 100 yards away, and the beautiful town of Ashford is soon to open the doors on their 4th! 

There is a burger van at the Lorry Park. He's probably expecting the promised 1,700 lorries that can fit there but he's just got a freezer full of shit burgers going off instead now! 

[100th_Idiot 360]

Nice pictures but we do need some context. Cross channel trtaffic is running about 10% of norm at the moment. A mix of companies holding off around Brext just in case and pre Brext stockpiling (remember all the stacks of containers just pre Christmas).

I don't expect such flatlands to ever be fully utilised because there's only a little paperwork to be done prior to arranging shipment but let things settle down before we start going red in the face.

If business can't cope with a couple of forms they shouldn't be in busness.

[C8RKH 6,406]

2 hours ago, LotusFella said:

Not a very nice view for the church goers. 🙂

There's fewer and fewer these days anyway. Hardly anyone will notice.

[Barrykearley 6,972]

Have we run out of food yet?? I’m sure it was forecast by certain groups ?.

[C8RKH 6,406]

39 minutes ago, 100th_Idiot said:

I don't expect such flatlands to ever be fully utilised because there's only a little paperwork to be done prior to arranging shipment but let things settle down before we start going red in the face.

Oh what, just like the Remainers have been quiet for the last 4 years, and continuing now, predicting the carnage, the end of the world, alien invasions and taking it up the backside just to get food?  Ok, I'll happily wait but only expect to see it full when the French decide to hold one of their impromptu tyre burning parties at the port.

[100th_Idiot 360]

31 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

Oh what, just like the Remainers have been quiet for the last 4 years, and continuing now, predicting the carnage, the end of the world, alien invasions and taking it up the backside just to get food?  Ok, I'll happily wait but only expect to see it full when the French decide to hold one of their impromptu tyre burning parties at the port.

Quite possibly but I also think we should diversify our ports as discussed elsewhere. A lot of our economy is dependent on Dover

[PaulCP 690]

Dover is a short sea Ro-Ro port which predominantly serves EU trade with a large element of fresh produce. Diverting traffic through Liverpool, for example, just doesn’t work on cost grounds or on delivery time grounds. 
The real solution is to move to unaccompanied Ro-Ro,where the trailer is put on a vessel and then taken off at the other end & delivered by a different tractor unit & driver. However the logistics in organising this would be massive & probably still not as cost effective.

For anyone who’s interested, although 2018 statistics, this is a good insight into U.K. port traffic

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/826446/port-freight-statistics-2018.pdf

[Chillidoggy 4,386]

I thought I’d covered this earlier. Distance, distance, distance! In order to make money, ferry companies need their ships to run the shortest possible routes.

Unaccompanied trailers (drops) used to make up a large portion of freight traffic that wasn’t time-constrained. But over the years, the increase in trade meant an ever-increasing shortage of space to stack them (certainly on this side of the channel).

This is the main reason why drops are not in vogue, coupled with the additional time taken for one to be collected, which could range from a few hours to a few days. As Paul said, that’s no good for perishable goods, even if it would be acceptable for non-perishable.

But there another issue and that is that we as consumers don’t want to wait for anything these days. We expect goods over night, on-demand, and that’s what has driven the development of the current ‘free-flowing’ service at Dover-Calais with very few drops. Post-Brexit Customs clearance areas are endeavouring to maintain this flow by not clogging up the port of Dover, rather moving lorries to those large clearance parks for checking.

[Neal H 899]

17 hours ago, 910Esprit said:

That last photo is an outrage - I assume thats either a Saxon or Norman church.  May as well convert it to a Macdonalds now for that lorry park

It’s Norman. Norman churches have square towers, earlier Saxon churches have round towers, like this one.

 

Now, back to Brexit news.....