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1 minute ago, C8RKH said:

Oh silly me. They'd NEVER do anything like that would they to cash in on one of their best models for years....:whistle:

Oops - is anyone being cynical ??  😉 🤣  (Surely not,Ed)

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Just now, thebartman said:

Oops - is anyone being cynical ??  😉 🤣  (Surely not,Ed)

You know me better than the wife....  xx

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IIRC, car manufacturers used to be be able to send parts/partly completed sub-assemblies/completed assemblies back and forth across La Manche without any VAT restrictions (just transport costs).

Maybe, just maybe, the UK will now re-learn how to make components, and build full cars, in-shore and show the world that we have moved on from BL etc. and know how to do this stuff without anyone else's nose stuck in our business ..... and the redundant cost of freight could be passed on to the consumer (wishful thinking) 😉 

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are Scottish fishermen really suffering or are they being manipulated by the SNP? 

or are the French playing games? Or maybe teething issues due to new system?

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A local fisherman had a gun pulled on him by EU customs (can't remember which country) when he had no paperwork for empty fish boxes returning to the UK. Ever get the feeling the EU is playing silly buggers.

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Euroscepticism in France has seen a rise in recent years as a result of the emergence of Marine Le Pen, the right wing nationalist leader of National Rally. She has been a staunch critic of the EU, previously campaigning for France to hold a referendum on its membership. Ms Le Pen never achieved this, to the relief of French President Macron, who admitted that his country would have voted to leave. 

On 15/01/2021 at 18:59, march said:

A local fisherman had a gun pulled on him by EU customs (can't remember which country) when he had no paperwork for empty fish boxes returning to the UK. Ever get the feeling the EU is playing silly buggers.

Oh yes. They've been playing silly buggers with us for years, just too many people did not believe it.

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They are confiscating British Drivers sandwiches as they are not allowed to import meat without paperwork. Oh yes they are playing silly buggers.

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It's great that the only examples of Brexit Armageddon they can drag out is some freight delays due to incorrect paperwork .. storm in a teacup

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EU Health Commissioner now demanding AZ divert supplies produced in and for UK, to EU. EU Health Commissioner insists that AZ honours its contracts, except AZ's contract with the UK!

Simultaneously, she says AZ is wrong when AZ says that their contract is "non binding". A complete mischaracterisation worthy of Trump, because AZ never said that their contract was not binding. AZ clarified that it promised to use "best efforts" to deliver, instead of "will" deliver. Both are equally binding; the latter, no ifs and no buts; the former, ifs and buts possible.

UK's AZ contract is also "best efforts" but we have had more time to ramp up production because we started 3 months earlier.

EU Health Commissioner is really not covering herself in glory. This exposes very clearly for me, that EU Commissioners are not always appointed on merit; but on political horse trading.

Fortunately, we are longer bound to listen to these unelected Eurocrats.

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They’ve screwed up and now need to find someone outside of the EU to blame.

Not only did they dither over signing the contract in the first place they’ve still not approved the vaccine. Why would AZ  produce and build up stocks when there’s no guarantee that their product will be approved. Add to this that the production problems are with 2 EU manufacturing plants!

The hold up in the EU is a clear case of individuals in the EU having to prove that they are important by ensuring that they get some attention 

It doesn’t matter though, the EU 27 are apparently united in their approach🤔

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Can anyone explain how things are now better for the UK, now that Brexit has actually happened?

I see lots of 'it's not as bad as it could have been', or 'this particular fear hasn't materialised', but there are seemingly no benefits to offset what we have lost.  Anything to help my level of optimism is appreciated.

Has anyone ordered parts from Europe this month?  I am considering some from Germany, but there are many stories of extra charges and transporters/suppliers just not bothering with the UK any more.

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Well. The UK on its own has just got on with the vaccination programme and vaccinated far more people than the whole of Europe - that's better

The UK has been free to put in its own support packages for workers and businesses that have largely been well received where EU has dithered, argued and delayed - that's better

The UK managed to act early and decisively to "secure" sufficient supplies of vaccine as required - that's better

The UK is now able to seek and negotiate trade deals with ANY country it wishes outside of the control of the EU - we have the ability to better direct our future trading options - that's better

The issue of the parts is a "political" one as the facts are not really being reported correctly. Even on here we have had "business owners" who trade with Europe saying they had to make some changes, but they were able to, and all is good. The key thing is that EU had decided to change the way it was going to collect VAT - as usual, the UK just got on with it and has implemented it to the original timescales mandated by the EU. However, due to Brexit, the EU decided to "delay" their implmentation  - hence the issues and confusion. Once the EU goes live, then all those whinging cycling suppliers in Europe will be truly fecked as they will have to do the same as they are now being asked to do for the UK with EVERY other country that is not in the EU!!!  Go figure.

 

The upshot is we will only truly know the outcome of Brexit in 3, 5, 7 maybe even 10 years. But of course, everyone just wants a definitive verdict now!

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9 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

Well. The UK on its own has just got on with the vaccination programme and vaccinated far more people than the whole of Europe - that's better

The UK has been free to put in its own support packages for workers and businesses that have largely been well received where EU has dithered, argued and delayed - that's better

The UK managed to act early and decisively to "secure" sufficient supplies of vaccine as required - that's better

These happened while we were still subject to EU rules last year, and would have happened with/without Brexit.

The urgency of the vaccine rollout is sadly necessary due to us having the least control over the disease.  Many nations took control of their borders early on, while we are only just now deciding how to close the stable door.

10 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

The UK is now able to seek and negotiate trade deals with ANY country it wishes outside of the control of the EU - we have the ability to better direct our future trading options - that's better

We have negotiated a number of deals which only replicate what we already had through the EU.  In return we can no longer have a say in how one of the three large global trading blocs is run.  Trade deals with geographic neighbours are also far more important than others, and the nearest neighbour outside of the EU/EFTA/single market etc. is thousands of miles away.

14 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

The upshot is we will only truly know the outcome of Brexit in 3, 5, 7 maybe even 10 years. But of course, everyone just wants a definitive verdict now!

Yes, the issue is I can see a number of immediate downsides, but the potential upside is a blur in the distance.

On the parts supply question I'm tempted just to order something as an experiment 😄

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1 hour ago, Doug Ashley said:

These happened while we were still subject to EU rules last year, and would have happened with/without Brexit.

Probably not as the eu haven’t approved the one vaccine we are using a lot of. Had we still been a member of the club - they would have ensured we wouldn’t access it.

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13 minutes ago, Barrykearley said:

Probably not as the eu haven’t approved the one vaccine we are using a lot of. Had we still been a member of the club - they would have ensured we wouldn’t access it.

Yup. I believe Doug is just laying down some bait. After all this time it still happens. Hey ho..

However @Doug Ashley, order away and let us know your experience. I haven't changed anything, including ordering online, and nothing so far has changed for me. Maybe I am just special :)

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Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

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Yeah yous special alright @C8RKH. I’ve been worried everyday about the lack of electricity and food since brexit. It would seem the doomsday predictions have been completely incorrect. Oh and we are flourishing in comparison to the eu in so many ways
 

who would have thought.....

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