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Well it appears we may have it - just heard a Doctor describe the symptoms and it matches ours 100% - not quite a cold and not quite flu. Carina is suffering a lot more than me, but in reality for us

UK Virus ALERT   The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent virus threat and have therefore raised their threat level from “Miffed” to “Peeved.” Soon, though, level may be raised

I don’t even find it boring to stay inside all day ...but I don’t understand why in one box of rice krispies there are 2453 pieces, and in the other one 2467!

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Sat watching Boris now. 
 

I am more and more of the feeling that this is more about controlling the public at large than anything else. No more Hong Kong protests, none in Paris, Greece, no climate change demos. Individuals to be slumped into debt - and we all know when folks are scared and in debt they do as they are told by the authorities.

never been a tin foil hat wearer before - but this is just getting way way out of hand now. If this had been Ebola - I’d say the approach was right....but it’s not

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Much good thoughts to you and Carina Marc, hope all is well and you recover quickly :thumbup:

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2 hours ago, gregs24 said:

This isn't Barry bashing, it applies to any of the internet warriors here and elsewhere who have nothing to lose from exclaiming opinions based on nothing but fresh air. As the virologist on Jeremy Vine said a few weeks ago, ' your whole show is based on the uninformed opinions of people who don't know what they are talking about' !

Not taken in that way at all chap. It’s awful for those affected. But and it’s a big but - people die everyday - even I shall do it some time. Folks dies of seasonal flu even though we immunise against. In time the facts of the matter will come out.  If this had been a contagion with fatalities like Ebola then I would understand. Had this outbreak occurred before the internet and information generation it’s pretty unlikely it would have made the news until it was over.

lets hope we all come out the other side of this alive 🙏

@march look after yourself chap and get well soon

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5 hours ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

Corona Virus: winners?

I have been asking myself the same question. Much like Barry. It seems some out there are deliberately pushing the right buttons to make people panic. Paris saw one more protest I think, but mainly things have calmed. We even got a new government (for all intents and purposes anyway), after only 15 months. No one saw that coming, it would have never happened if the public still voiced their opinions.

So who benefits from all this? I don't deny the need for measures, but what I'm seeing is all but effective, except in creating confusion and panic. And crippling the economy, a bill we'll all be expected to pick up in a couple of months. I don't see much being done to actually protect or help those most vulnerable.

And just to add, while I do think there is little risk for me personally, at the same time I do realize about all my relatives and loved ones could be considered vulnerable because of age, heart disease etc. So I don't just take this lightly.

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"It takes 0.27 seconds to make a roll of loo roll. That's 2,220 rolls in 10 minutes.

Khurram Iqbal, who runs the toilet paper factory Nova Tissue in Oldham, and his team make a quarter of a million rolls every single day - so he has absolutely no idea why people are concerned about a shortage.

And his factory, which has become a 24/7 operation and taken on new staff to deal with coronavirus COVID-19 panic-buying, is just a drop in the ocean, making less than 1 per cent of the UK's toilet roll.

He told Mirror Online there is absolutely no need for anyone to be concerned and has urged people to stop clearing the supermarket shelves."

In other news, the CDC estimates that up to 31 million Americans have caught the flu this season (2019), with 210,000 to 370,000 flu sufferers hospitalized because of the virus. 

 

That's US figures only. Way more than Covid19. And yet no one panic buys when the flu bug comes out. Nuts. Just nuts!

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3 minutes ago, Barrykearley said:

Folks dies of seasonal flu even though we immunise against.

Over 1,000 a month in the UK. 

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Malaria kills 3000 children a DAY and 1million people a year

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1 hour ago, march said:

Well it appears we may have it - just heard a Doctor describe the symptoms and it matches ours 100% - not quite a cold and not quite flu. Carina is suffering a lot more than me, but in reality for us it has not been much more than a very bad cold. Living out in the sticks with lots of land around us and being miserable anti-social buggers 🙂 all these townies reactions have all come as a bit of surprise to us - Is it really that bad out there?

Fortunately we only ever buy in bulk as we hate shopping and are miles from any major shops so we are OK for food for a couple of weeks (standard practice for us) so should be clear of anything before we have to go into a shop again.

On the plus side we have discovered there is a great community here, people offering to go shopping for others, child minders offering help to NHS/Police staff, free deliveries from corner shops, and many more examples - and best of all we apparently have a micro brewery in the valley (who'd have thought) as well as a cake baker both offering free delivery - we will definitely be trying these services 😃. This country can be bloody good sometimes and hopefully people won't forget this once this is all over.

Anyway farmers will never stop - there will always be animals to feed, fields to tend, car projects to work on so keeping busy.

Please keep the humour coming - however politically incorrect as it's always good to laugh.

Blimey - hope you both get well soon 👍

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Same issue with eggs. Can’t get them in any local shops round here @C8RKH.

however within 10 minutes of my home address I’ve wired sheds which house over 100k of laying hens - that’s about 92k eggs a day - so absolutely no shortage in the supply chain whatsoever. I’ve brought home several piles for folks round here who are struggling to get them

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1 hour ago, march said:

Well it appears we may have it - just heard a Doctor describe the symptoms and it matches ours 100% - not quite a cold and not quite flu. Carina is suffering a lot more than me, but in reality for us it has not been much more than a very bad cold. Living out in the sticks with lots of land around us and being miserable anti-social buggers 🙂 all these townies reactions have all come as a bit of surprise to us - Is it really that bad out there?

Fortunately we only ever buy in bulk as we hate shopping and are miles from any major shops so we are OK for food for a couple of weeks (standard practice for us) so should be clear of anything before we have to go into a shop again.

On the plus side we have discovered there is a great community here, people offering to go shopping for others, child minders offering help to NHS/Police staff, free deliveries from corner shops, and many more examples - and best of all we apparently have a micro brewery in the valley (who'd have thought) as well as a cake baker both offering free delivery - we will definitely be trying these services 😃. This country can be bloody good sometimes and hopefully people won't forget this once this is all over.

Anyway farmers will never stop - there will always be animals to feed, fields to tend, car projects to work on so keeping busy.

Please keep the humour coming - however politically incorrect as it's always good to laugh.

Just in case you don’t make it, can I have your tractor instead of the V8?

Thanks.

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6 minutes ago, Bibs said:

Over 1,000 a month in the UK. 

Then that underlines my thought process. Right or wrong only time will tell.

I’ve seen a post by a 64 year old who’s been on Facebook saying he’d rather take his chances than lumber the country with mass unemployment, huge debt and chaos.

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Hmmm 🤔 whist I can appreciate the comparisons with other fatal diseases, the 1st confirmed Death by CV was on 9 January 2020 ; and as of the 18 March there's been 8,917 deaths - so say approximately 3,000 per month.

Most experts seem to think that around 70-80% of the population will end up with it - and hence there is likely to be a significant increase in the numbers of deaths, probably over a comparatively short time - even is he mortality rate remains at 3.4% (which I believe has recently risen from about 2.3%) whereas 'normal flu' the rate is between 0.1 to 0.2%.

So although I don't want to put a 'downer' on things - Coronal Virus is a significantly more serious problem than Flu.

Even if other diseases are as fatal, that in itself doesn't mean that the risks associated with CV should be downplayed and/or ignored. Like most the people on here my elderly parents seem to be taking a 'we got through the Blitz' attitude which is fine in some ways - but ultimately may mean that they put both themselves, and others, at a greater risk than need be.

So whilst I agree that Panic is bad, and can in itself cause problems, so too can a disregard of the risks and dangers.

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3 minutes ago, KAS-118 said:

Hmmm 🤔 whist I can appreciate the comparisons with other fatal diseases, the 1st confirmed Death by CV was on 9 January 2020 ; and as of the 18 March there's been 8,917 deaths - so say approximately 3,000 per month.

Yes but that’s a worldwide figure out of a huge number of people. Still dwarfed by malaria and other such diseases 

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I really don't believe the government or any other is in the business of putting the frighteners into the public at large and causing all the chaos and worry on this scale. It certainly dosent help the situation, so my view is that all these measures are not being introduced lightly and we should take heed.

 

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20 minutes ago, Barrykearley said:

Yes but that’s a worldwide figure out of a huge number of people. Still dwarfed by malaria and other such diseases 

Around 3000 people are killed by guns in the US every month, so in a similar period as 3k die from Coronovirus globally, you can expect 9k deaths in the US . Cannot understand given such an epidemic 'Muricans are not panic buying toilet roll constantly.

Globally, on average there are more than 3000 deaths PER DAY from road traffic accidents, so 1m a year!  Better not go for a drive in your Lotus you'd be safer in an infectious ward!

1 in 4 deaths every year, around 650k people per year, so 54k every month, die from a heart attack in America.

 

Coronoavirus is BAD ASS, but it ain't the baddest of asses YET in terms of deaths per day, per week, per month, per year.  But hey everyone, PANIC! Society stops. People's savings get wiped out. People lose their jobs etc. Just keeping a perspective. No doubting it is bad, really bad, but it's not the end of the world. Just yet anyway.

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