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I read earlier that the EU commission is taking action against the U.K. for breaching freedom of movement rules whilst the Brexit transition period is in force.

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having instilled fear of the virus in alarge percentage of the population how are the government and the media going to persuade people to return to a new normal life. A vaccine seems a long way off and 100% safe is a long way off.  Probably a lot more people need to get the virus i.e herd immunity, but how do you convince people that is the answer ,if it is. We need to get the majority of children back to school but it is going to be a long time before it will be 100% safe ,if it ever was. Teachers and trade unions need to come up with some positive suggestions instead of being negative and blaming the government for evrything.

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I think the fear vs new normal is going to be key, but rather than us needing to drive people to try and return to what is as close to the old normal as possible, we can keep the R number lower by some actions that are hanging over from the lock-down. Things like, don't get physically close to people if it can be reasonably avoided, practice good hygiene (why oh why was that new for some people ??), masks in public, not going out if ill,  all these things could help to keep the R number down a bit and so allow some sort of new normal. Asia have pretty much done it a while ago when they managed to control SARS. So if we can achieve that, then places like schools are less likely to be of concern regards the virus as there's less chance of any of the kids bringing into the classroom.

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I think the fear vs new normal is going to be key, but rather than us needing to drive people to try and return to what is as close to the old normal as possible, we can keep the R number lower by some actions that are hanging over from the lock-down. Things like, don't get physically close to people if it can be reasonably avoided, practice good hygiene (why oh why was that new for some people ??), masks in public, not going out if ill,  all these things could help to keep the R number down a bit and so allow some sort of new normal. Asia have pretty much done it a while ago when they managed to control SARS. So if we can achieve that, then places like schools are less likely to be of concern regards the virus as there's less chance of any of the kids bringing into the classroom.

You're quite right - in some of those countries (including China) where restrictions have been lifted there has then been an increase.

I agree with what Johnson said - that you need to be cautious and not risk what has been achieved by opening things up too soon.

I can't help but think the current easing has been more politically lead - to try and appease; rather than scientifically lead.

I actually think they should make it a requirement to wear masks on Public transports or when you go shopping. Not because they will necessarily 'seal' you from the virus - but because its limits its transmissions by restricting the 'splash' area of coughs and sneezes.

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@C8RKH It’s cos you are old and cantankerous  with a complete lack of empathy while being slightly pudgy...

 

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Is one run by a German academy trust and the other by ex British leyland staff??

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My kid's school haven't been able to do online learning due to a) not having the time to investigate properly (you've had 8 weeks FFS), and then b) safeguarding issues. (FFS again).

I put a rocket up there arses earlier this week*, and they are now starting online classes with Google Classroom.

 

* I basically told them that they were lazy f**kers all setting 6 week coursework, and that they need to get to be "Teachers" and interact with the kids - we have had 1 phone call for each child (Y7 & Y10) in the 8 weeks of lockdown, absolutely pathetic.

 

 

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And they wonder why increasingly children, and many of their parents, do not have many good things to say about them. Their response in your instance above is just pathetic and they should be ashamed to call themselves professional. And whilst they have been, I am sure many of them at least, doing fook all they've happily taken their salaries and benefits.

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I’m simply at a loss as to why the bbc haven’t been instructed to deliver lessons on the red button service. We have a national curriculum which nearly all kids follow. A simple set of programmed lessons would have filled a massive gap for many.

 

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So given that move by the BBC (thanks for sharing @pete) there could and is not any real defence for teachers and schools (and parents) to not have stepped up in parallel to continue to provide the service that they are paid to deliver (Teachers) or funded to deliver (Schools) to the pupils that they owe a duty of care to support.  This just further supports my view that they are indeed, in many cases (but not all of course) not worthy to be called professionals!

 

As for Piers Morgan, he is in many ways, a Twat. However, even Twats have a right to be heard, as if not, then almost half (at least) of our Politicians would be silenced and I'd be banned from TLF.

It should not be people who disagree with what he says to protest to, and get him, shut up. That is censorship and against the principle of freedom of speech.

However, what people can choose to do is to not listen to him. To turn over the TV channel, or better still, to turn off the TV. I have never actually watched a programme that he hosts on anything on any channel. Though I have read some of the things he has said, and whilst I do not agree with the majority, he has made some good points on some topics although often in a controversial manner.

By doing so they will be sending a clear signal that his views are not shared and ultimately his employers will decide whether they wish to keep him on or not.

It's a bit like why I have never bought a copy of the Sun for over 20 years. They behaved like twats. They spread disinformation. And so I, like many thousands of others took a decision to ignore that paper. It is still around as others have obviously a different view.

 

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Well in defence of the Teachers and the BBC, my daughter has regularly  received lessons on line from her school and has been provided with links to various academic books etc and has been phoned regularly by her teachers. Likewise, other colleagues of mine who have kids, have had no complaints - so although I accept there may well  be instances where the school isn't doing a reasonable job - it may well be these are in the minority.

As for Piers Morgan - he's certainly a controversial character - but the very few times that I've ever him (what admittedly isn't very often) he does appear to be able to back up his arguments with at least some research and wide read point of view (whether or not you particularly agree with it) - and not the narrow minded ignorance of some self proclaimed 'experts' - who heads permanently seemed stuck up their own backsides and get so many basic fundamentals of there so claimed field of expertise wrong. For instance his 'spat' with Dr Shola Mos-Shogbamimu.

However, I don't like the way he approaches his task. He seems to have a rather infantile mentality - that is to try and 'bait', goad and insult, rather than present his arguments in a more considered and constructive manner. Indeed the way that he resorts to insults at a drop of a hat may demonstrate that he has some serious psychological issues, and needs help with anger management.

So from that perspective - he's a rather sad and pathetic character;  and I guess I should feel some pity for.

The timing is though, that what he's alway been like - and GMB knew what they were getting when they took him on - and indeed the viewers must know what they going to get when they chose to watch.

I appreciate that people do have a right to complain - indeed its good that we have the opportunity so to do - but I can't but help wonder why they tune-in - and not turn over and watch one of the other channels instead?

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Anyway - enough about Piers and his personality problem(s).

I see the UK are backing calls for an Investigation into the source of Coronavirus. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-backs-calls-for-coronavirus-investigation-xwtrzxv38 although I would have thought it was obviously needed. 

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And no one is saying or has said that "some teachers" do not take their responsibility seriously. But that does not mean that ALL teachers have taken their responsibility seriously.

Amongst my colleagues with kids the view is mixed. Some are really happy with how their kids schools and teachers have responded. And some are spitting feathers at the lack of support for their kids.

However, go back and review the attitude of the Danish teacher in the BBC Breakfast piece last week, and then at the average view from a UK teacher.  It says a lot not just about teachers but about the Danish view on life to the UK one. Hell, they even had a kid climbing a tree in the playground in Denmark, god help them if they did that in the UK thanks to trendy left (a lot of whom are teachers) and their drive to the nanny state.

Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

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