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Ok fellas, I could do with a view on this one please. I had my daily booked in to the local Merc indie tomorrow for annual service and MOT. They don’t do the MOTs themselves but run the car round to another local MOT specialist. 
Now, despite my previous gung ho posts on the subject, because I’m very much in the ‘at risk’ group re Covid-19, for the past week we have pretty much isolated ourselves at home. Until yesterday, I was still adamant I would be taking the car in for the service and MOT but with the increasing escalation of the virus, I’ve now decided to back away from it for my own safety. The thought of 3 or 4 different people all unknown to me, climbing in and out of the car and running their hands over seat belts and control surfaces concerns me somewhat. 
I’m not too bothered about the service time running over but the MOT actually runs out next Saturday so, in theory, I really shouldn’t be using the car after that date. It’s taxed until September and insured until next January, so what are people’s thoughts on how I should do this? Take the car, have unknown people all over the inside and risk the consequences with C-19 or risk the wrath of the law by not having the car MOT’d?

My gut feelings right now, in preference, are to risk driving without the MOT but what does everybody think?

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Driving a car with no MoT is not an endorsable offence, and does not invalidate your insurance - but it can attract a modest fine.  I'd leave it; I'm sure the authorities have bigger fish to fry and suspect they'll be fairly relaxed about it given the circumstances.  Mate of mine recently went 20 months without one before getting pulled over and scolded.

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46 minutes ago, Barrykearley said:

I’d not be taking it for mot. Just make sure it’s roadworthy.

i would expect an announcement about this very topic shortly 

Yeah it’s definitely roadworthy, tyres all good and no worries with brakes, lights or steering etc.

Thanks guys, you’ve confirmed my own thoughts and I will leave it for now. 👍

2 minutes ago, pete said:

So, possible death or a fine???🤔Hmm, think I’ll take the risk with the latter. 

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 I know that the link and Sparky both state that insurance is invalidated without an MOT, but I think it varies by provider, so some state the car must be roadworthy but others state it must have a valid MoT, some both. Mine (Lotus) is "roadworthy", so in theory, if it had a valid MoT but a bald tyre or failed wheel bearing I may not be covered (probably depends whether material to the loss).

Like @Barrykearley I expect the government will give some sort of moratorium on MoT tests, as was done in NI due to the problems with the lifts. It would be difficult to enforce if people need vehicles to get food etc and the MoTs cannot be done due to closure of business / absence of testers due to illness.

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19 minutes ago, andydclements said:

 I know that the link and Sparky both state that insurance is invalidated without an MOT

No, I stated the opposite!

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Sorry @Sparky, I read that three time and came to different readings,  OK, so we agree (subject to what the individual insurer has written into the policy although I haven't as yet found one that excludes to driving to an MoT) insurance will likely be OK.

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According to DirectLine your insurance would be invalidated. Fine is up to £1000 and 3 penalty points for no MOT.

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33 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

3 penalty points

As Sparky said, it's non-endorsable so only a fine which can go up to £2,500 if your car is considered 'dangerous'. 

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That is one option I guess, good shout. 👍 Probably wouldn’t need to leave it as long as that since as I understand it, the virus will live on an inanimate surface for up to 72 hours, so probably a week would be more than enough. 
I never thought I would hear myself saying the words I have on this thread, but seeing what’s been happening in Spain & Italy is quite sobering. 
I was talking to my business partner who now runs our company, on Thursday, and the effects of this virus on businesses everywhere  is devastating. Our work had all but dried up last week and we expect to close this week. 
It’s difficult to imagine just how long it will take to repair the damage to the UK economy, never mind the world. 

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I found no problem in recently setting up such an arrangement for a future service that will include collection and return of the car.  Details important of course - all non-contact, including transfer of keys each way. On returning the car, in my case, parking it inside the garage and connecting the battery charger and exiting the garage without touching anything else - such as the door. Dropping the keys into a box for me to take after he has moved away. Any paperwork to be dealt with appropriately too, e.g. by mail.  I also made clear that the driver must be fit and able enough to exit the car inside the garage into a restricted space.

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If you were unlucky enough to get caught and prosecuted  for driving without an MOT, you would be likely to get a nominal fine and as mentioned previously, it would not affect your licence  (unless the law has changed recently).  I also doubt it would make any difference in the event of an accident as you would be equally culpable if the vehicle was defective, regardless of MOT status, which as we all know is only certifying the vehicle as roadworthy at the point it is tested.

It would not affect the 3rd Party element of your insurance, but I suppose an insurer could potentially use it to attempt to repudiate the proposer's cover, if you have signed some small print agreeing to have the vehicle covered by an MOT.  However, the regulators are generally not keen on enforcing underwriting rules that are not explicitly asked as questions, with a recorded answer.   And I don't ever recall being explicitly asked if the vehicle's MOT status.

I personally wouldn't worry about it in the slightest.

 

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Thanks for the suggestions. I’ve just spoken again to the service guys and agreed for them to collect my car in a couple of weeks, get it MOT’d and serviced, then return it and take payment by card over the phone. 
I’ll just have to use the Evora in the meantime. Every cloud .................😁

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So the tax runs out on my Lexus at the end of this month, me thinks putting it on sorn as may only use it to nip 500 yards to corner Nisa to load up with bottles of Ghost Ship and Doombar for the next few months..£325 per year 🤔

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Transporter went in to main dealer yesterday for serving and mot. Annoyingly only failed on cuts to tyres so all need to be replaced. Only thing they can't get any appropriate load rated quality tyres for several days so I brought it home and sorted some locally. Was going to take it back for retest on Friday but even though they service blue light vehicles they are closing down from tomorrow.

 

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18 hours ago, ChrisJ said:

As one of my hats at work I’m the fleet manager, so I had been watching the news feeds from DVSA 

late this afternoon the press release stated that taking cars to garages was permissible as they are exempt businesses but they then went on to say it’s still under review as they may allow 3 months of suspension of MOT like lorries.

so it seems MOTs are still required but reading in between the lines (which not great state of affairs) the relaxation of allowing flexibility could be applied in very near future? Watch this space 

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My neighbours was saying, his firm are still taking their lorries off the road if the test runs out. They don't want the risk of driving an un-roadworthy vehicle, and they have 6-weekly inspection requirement, so for that firm it looks as though the exemption isn't going to be enough for all people to be comfortable. That's a construction firm, not essential but lets hope the food industry etc take a different view.

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Sods law is your biggest problem. Whilst the chance of getting done are almost zero, the chances of a once in a lifetime accident somehow due the aforementioned almost become quite probable because you’re aware that you’re breaking the law.

If you have a decent independent garage nearby why not call them, explain the dilemma (cover the cost of a taxi for them) and get them to pick it up and deliver?

Just my take on it. I wouldn’t take a risk. 😉

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16 minutes ago, auRouge said:

Sods law is your biggest problem. Whilst the chance of getting done are almost zero, the chances of a once in a lifetime accident somehow due the aforementioned almost become quite probable because you’re aware that you’re breaking the law.

If you have a decent independent garage nearby why not call them, explain the dilemma (cover the cost of a taxi for them) and get them to pick it up and deliver?

Just my take on it. I wouldn’t take a risk. 😉

I am In call conference with our insurer this week to get their take as in the end that could be controlling factor 

as For the government guidance it is there as with other aspects it does become little unclear for certain situations for example this morning first rule for split families changed two interviews later ! 

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