Popular Post Bibs Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 We need a complete and correct buyers guide. All revisions and options through the years, issues out watch out for, recalls etc. It would be great if everyone can put their 2p's worth in and I'd like a few to help write an article on it, especially anyone experienced in writing technical documentation. There's too much incomplete and misinformation about and with our volume of Evora owners and factory contacts we should be able to nail this. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rAdjE8w2Jc5jsvqbU3aA7U7ktkpdklRj8iAys4Bw__o/edit?usp=sharing ^ That's a publicly editable document we can all dip into, along with this topic I think it's the best way to get this together and once we're done I'll get it published on the forum homepage. 4 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruss Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 I think Jimbo is the 'go to guy' and as even he knows, what the Lotus docs say are more of a catch up of what they have done so far than a definitive dateline for all builds. All builds seem to have their quirks dependent on parts stock and usage on the day they built any particular car. A good guide but not as definitive as we might think. Edit: retrospectively the Lotus archive will give exactly what your build consists of with a date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted April 8, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Bruss said: I think Jimbo is the 'go to guy' and as even he knows, what the Lotus docs say are more of a catch up of what they have done so far than a definitive dateline for all builds. All builds seem to have their quirks dependent on parts stock and usage on the day they built any particular car. A good guide but not as definitive as we might think. Edit: retrospectively the Lotus archive will give exactly what your build consists of with a date. Not what was inferred by this comment: "All production planned changes were done in an accurate and efficient manner" Just confirms to me that there is some ambiguity around and having a definitive view, as Bibs suggests would be a great bonus and resource for the future. I can't ever see a future day in my life when I will not have an Evora in my ownership. I've gotten over my "wobble" of there being no dealer within 300 miles who can service my car and when it came to it I just could not buy a Porsche 911, though the GTS I test drove I have to say was very nice, it was a tad sterile. The drive home in the 410 just reconfirmed my head and heart were in sync and making the right decision. 2 Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Bruss said: Edit: retrospectively the Lotus archive will give exactly what your build consists of with a date. I've sent Andy and email asking for the factory timings 1 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruss Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 😁 I don't think any of my cars from Lotus have ever been a 'standard' build. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted April 8, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Even the latest GT430's had "different" diffusers I believe so I do agree @Bruss there is an element of using up what they have. Not trying to be argumentative here (for once!) Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snoopy1969 Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 great idea, but - as said before - details will be difficult....for example: the first models of MY 12 were build in 2011, they (at least the one advertised insouthern Germeny) had floor mats with a circular Ltus sign, my MY 12 delivered July 2012 after the shutdown in spring had floormats wita an "Evora" script......the MY 12 first had metal plates within the leather covered door sills then they disappeaed.... 2013 or 2014 I think...... in this context:.....look at the shifter.....(?) ...... @jaws ? 😉 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted April 8, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Updated the guide for the Evora 410 Sport and a couple of known problem areas. 1 Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_marra Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, Snoopy1969 said: great idea, but - as said before - details will be difficult....for example: the first models of MY 12 were build in 2011, they (at least the one advertised insouthern Germeny) had floor mats with a circular Ltus sign, my MY 12 delivered July 2012 after the shutdown in spring had floormats wita an "Evora" script. The circular sign on the floormats must be the shortest lived change of all. The gear knob in your pic is something I have never seen, maybe even unique? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, C8RKH said: Updated the guide for the Evora 410 Sport and a couple of known problem areas. Epic start mate, thank you Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snoopy1969 Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, tim_marra said: The circular sign on the floormats must be the shortest lived change of all. The gear knob in your pic is something I have never seen, maybe even unique? The gear knob is from a test car of Lotus which was tested by German car mag auto motor sport. If my old brain works right...I think this knob couls also seen in some sort of press release of Lotus relating th MY 12 updates 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted April 8, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Initial project eagle session drafted. 1 Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusLeftLotusRight Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Great work! Just a small correction: Project Eagle would be the first Lotus mid-engined 2+2 sports car. Back in the 1970s, Maserati had the Merak, Lamborghini had the Uracco and Ferrari had the 308GT4 and the Mondial from the early 1980s to the early 1990s. Therefore please add Lotus just for clarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 You can change it yourself, it's an editable file. Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAWS Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 16 hours ago, Snoopy1969 said: great idea, but - as said before - details will be difficult....for example: the first models of MY 12 were build in 2011, they (at least the one advertised insouthern Germeny) had floor mats with a circular Ltus sign, my MY 12 delivered July 2012 after the shutdown in spring had floormats wita an "Evora" script......the MY 12 first had metal plates within the leather covered door sills then they disappeaed.... 2013 or 2014 I think...... in this context:.....look at the shifter.....(?) ...... @jaws ? 😉 Hello Willi, I was wondering if the gearknob would be mentioned. Thought Bravo73 would have. That part never made it past that press/pre-production car and never became production intent early on in the programme. It was a Mansory item, as were the sill scuff plates and floor mats with the roundel on. Need I say more? A model year change happens during the summer period of the "previous year" so for example, MY12 cars started in production August 2011. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrylV8 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 19 hours ago, C8RKH said: Even the latest GT430's had "different" diffusers I believe so I do agree @Bruss there is an element of using up what they have. Not trying to be argumentative here (for once!) Some GT430’s have the carbon quarter panel others have glass Quote Darryl & Sue Proud to drive and own since new a true British supercar the Evora GT430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1969 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, JAWS said: Hello Willi, I was wondering if the gearknob would be mentioned. Thought Bravo73 would have. That part never made it past that press/pre-production car and never became production intent early on in the programme. It was a Mansory item, as were the sill scuff plates and floor mats with the roundel on. Need I say more? A model year change happens during the summer period of the "previous year" so for example, MY12 cars started in production August 2011. Dear Jimbo, many thanks - as ever - for the enlightning info ! Never heard that the sill plates were also delivered by M, I think I heard the story that "a british manufacturer went insolvent..." but there is always "light" at the end of the part mystery tunnel ;-)........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken2020 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I've stayed up late wondering about this very detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGTE Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 Added paragraphs on metal oil lines, condenser/compressor damage due to gravel impacts, skipping tyres while steering and steering-wheel click (all of which I have had, along with clutch- and brake-pedal sensor faults, plus an ECU that went mental 🙂 ). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM TdM Posted September 11, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 I believe it was agreed that the oil lines were updated on later engines, I think the problem is that we have no way of confirming when that was... It's not mentioned on your update but might be good if we have a way to find this out. Maybe a survey of owners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted September 11, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 It is probably buried in MY release/service notes if someone has access to them. Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted September 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 I wonder if @JAWS might know, he seems pretty clued up sometimes 1 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) Model year changes up to and including MY2012 added. Source : Evora Service Notes January 2014 updated version Don't shoot the messenger! 😂 Edited September 11, 2020 by JimH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 Common parts section started.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1969 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 @JimH "Model year changes up to and including MY2012 added." Great you have added this, I have added some more detailed info on the seat colors / 4 packs available (wonder if there was a car with a ash grey leather int. ever.......) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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