Peegee355 Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 OK, 2 obvious questions for you all. Is there are a drain hole around here to stop the water pooling around the hinge? And, if I unbolt the hinge to clean it up, will the two bolts drop out and I'll need to take the front clam off to rescue them?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardC Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 Despite trying to add a seal to the front edge of the hatch, I still get some water collecting there, but my hinge hasn't gone rusty yet, probably because I've been smearing it with rust inhibitor. I was contemplating drilling some drain holes but was worried what lies beneath. Would it be okay for water to drain down there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2011 Chrome Orange Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 I don't recall if those nuts are captive or not. So, they may or may not drop and require clam removal for retrieval. But, I believe a very small hole drilled in the VERY CORNER of the hatch opening (below the pollen filter trap door and in the corner so water does not pool on the pollen filter) would not be an issue based on what is below. Of course, do so at your own risk. I would also use a drill stop to make sure you only drill through the clam and not any further. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peegee355 Posted May 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 That looks innocent enough 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJD Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 Service notes say the hinge is bolted to a studplate bonded to the clam so you should be ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peegee355 Posted May 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, KJD said: Service notes say the hinge is bolted to a studplate bonded to the clam so you should be ok. Thank you! Will let you know.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
au-yt Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Thanks for being the guinea pig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJD Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 19:57, Peegee355 said: Thank you! Will let you know.... Just loosen the nuts and see if the studs move. I drilled drain holes in the corners of the hinge pocket on mine. No problem. If you take off the pollen filter cover you can poke around and feel that there’s nothing underneath. Chrome Orange’s pic is of an S1 Evora. The 400 is different. Any water just joins the rest that goes in through the main grilles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peegee355 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Wow - thank you. That's my weekend job Edited May 11, 2020 by Bibs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTUSMAN33 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Thanks for posting I will be doing mine now as have same issue with trapped water after washing. 👍🏻 Dave Quote Do or do not, there is no try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardC Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Drilled a couple of 2mm holes in mine today. The water isn't draining very well so I may have to enlarge them. It's little design cock-ups like this that make Lotus what it is. The rust prone mudflap brackets is another one that anyone could have seen coming a mile off. Looking on DeRoure, the hinge B132U0034F, got replaced with C132U0034F , and then D132U0034F. Any chance that they've upgraded it to stainless steel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peegee355 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 I would hope they've used plastic hinges! There's hardly any weight to hold. I've had mine open all week to really dry out, I'll take it apart at the weekend, Kurust it, drill some holes (larger than 2mm - thank you!) and slap it all back together. One serious upgrade. I'm also replacing some screws at the back that have gone rusty. Ace mechanic or wot 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peegee355 Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 All disassembled, cleaned up, painted and will go back in tomorrow. The bolts are captive - hurrah! But, Lotus secured one of them just off perpendicular so a real fight to remove the hinge 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 14/05/2020 at 21:25, RichardC said: Drilled a couple of 2mm holes in mine today. The water isn't draining very well so I may have to enlarge them. It's little design cock-ups like this that make Lotus what it is. The rust prone mudflap brackets is another one that anyone could have seen coming a mile off. Looking on DeRoure, the hinge B132U0034F, got replaced with C132U0034F , and then D132U0034F. Any chance that they've upgraded it to stainless steel? I made Stainless steel mudflap brackets, now sold on X8r, my next part was going to be the stainless steel hinge, unfortunately i had to sell my car so i have nothing to copy. If anyone has an old one i'll happily get it drawn up and manufacture something that will never rust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted July 3, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 Not that it helps but I've seen McLaren make the sense foobah's with soft steel that goes rusty in places too.... Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardC Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Miguel said: I made Stainless steel mudflap brackets, now sold on X8r, my next part was going to be the stainless steel hinge, unfortunately i had to sell my car so i have nothing to copy. If anyone has an old one i'll happily get it drawn up and manufacture something that will never rust. That would be great if you could get some made. I would certainly be interested in ordering a stainless hinge for my car. There are also a couple brackets that support the rear diffuser that are already pretty rusty on my 3 year old Evora 400: I imagine that stainless versions of those would be a popular upgrade too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted July 3, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 How much more would it really cost to put in some proper brackets and screws? £50? £100? Why cannot Lotus just do it and put the extra cost on to the list price. It would make a difference. 1 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bibs Posted July 7, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 @RichardC & @Miguel I have a pair of those brackets still in their bags ready to be fitted to my car along with the Mansory cf diffuser. You're welcome to use the brackets for patterns before they go on my car if you wish? 2 1 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 On 03/07/2020 at 19:04, C8RKH said: How much more would it really cost to put in some proper brackets and screws? £50? £100? Why cannot Lotus just do it and put the extra cost on to the list price. It would make a difference. Honestly, it's probably no more expensive to just make them in stainless -the extra material cost is negated by the fact the parts don't have to be zinc plated (which offers very little extra protection IMO). On 07/07/2020 at 17:58, Bibs said: @RichardC & @Miguel I have a pair of those brackets still in their bags ready to be fitted to my car along with the Mansory cf diffuser. You're welcome to use the brackets for patterns before they go on my car if you wish? hi Bibs, happy to get something modelled up, then send the originals back so you can fit. Would need them for a week or so i guess? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 No probs - Pop me your address and I'll get them in the post Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted July 9, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Thanks @Miguel - @Bibs maybe mention this on your test drive tomorrow! It really would be a cost negligble thing and would do a lot to improve quality - nothing like seeing rusty bolts etc to put you off. I remember seeing a McLaren 650S last summer that looked "tatty" due to the rust on exposed cheap metal and the image / perception had stuck with me. Small things done often = large leaps Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trcm Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 On 03/07/2020 at 19:04, C8RKH said: How much more would it really cost to put in some proper brackets and screws? £50? £100? Why cannot Lotus just do it and put the extra cost on to the list price. It would make a difference. And all the rusty nuts and bolts too, can this very question be put to Lotus at the next annual LTF - Lotus campfire meeting ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason is Chasing Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 I'm confused, it appears to me to be a pretty straight forward job, clam shell removal I imagine would make it a challenge (for me), it also appears to be a standard bracket, and I wonder how hard it would be to manufacture one or seal that area. It's curious to me that there would be that much play given the cars origin climate to allow that much water. Was the soft steal used for weight savings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mg4lotus Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 PeeGee confirmed that clam removal was not required on May 16th. Thank goodness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peegee355 Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 The bolts were rock solid so no need to remove that clam. Shame they installed them at angle but just had to drill out one of the hinge holes a tad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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