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On 20/06/2020 at 09:11, Buddsy said:

Ive never seen or heard any racism against black or Asian men & women.

Nor me on a personal level but like you, I'm white.

When Obama was first running for president and I was living in North Carolina, there was plenty of race-based opposition to his election on local radio.

One point not discussed in this thread is that many US policemen are effectively immune from prosecution for killing people in their custody.

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I’m actually bored of this whole subject now.  Personally I don’t care if you’re black. I also don’t care if you’re white. I don’t care if you are straight. I don’t care if you are gay. I don’t care

I also have a huge issue with "taking the knee". Historically you "took the knee" to show your fealty to a superior, a ruler. So essentially, you were acknowledging that you were subservient to a "bet

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Here's some examples of why so many people want to reform the American police.

Although it's hidden behind a paywall, there's enough legible here to give an idea of why there were demonstrations here.

 

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can`t help but feel this has gone too far now. Ostracising people for not supporting a cause seems like reverse racism

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/hamilton-warns-silence-is-complicit-in-racism-as-f1-drivers-split-over-taking-knee/ar-BB16lHY4?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

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It's a submissive gesture and inappropriate. Hamilton has ignored the fact that some may not agree with it, or feel the same way as he does, yet it appears he's trying to force them into it. That won't help his cause.

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I think Hamilton has read this situation all wrong. I'm a fan of him as a racer but he needs to understand and respect other peoples point of views too otherwise he really is missing the point. I personally would not take the knee. Why? Nothing to do with racism, more to do that I don't like being "told" what to do and I don't need to make a futile gesture to prove to anyone I am no racist, I will just point to them to everyone I have met, worked with, or socialised with who will attest to the fact that race is never on my mind when I am dealing with them and given the industry I work in I meet, interact, work and socialise with people from all backgrounds, race and religions.

If Hamilton and others want to take a knee then do it. All respect. But that does not mean that others who do not take the knee are automatically wrong or a racist.

Symbolism is dangerous, especially when people feel they HAVE to display or face the consequences and that then leads to some serious trouble occurring. Shit, do these guys really learn nothing from history?

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So now you can't say nothing or you're silence is complacent, and you can't say something because then you're virtue signalling? Okay...

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2 hours ago, C8RKH said:

I think Hamilton has read this situation all wrong. I'm a fan of him as a racer but he needs to understand and respect other peoples point of views too otherwise he really is missing the point. I personally would not take the knee. Why? Nothing to do with racism, more to do that I don't like being "told" what to do and I don't need to make a futile gesture to prove to anyone I am no racist, I will just point to them to everyone I have met, worked with, or socialised with who will attest to the fact that race is never on my mind when I am dealing with them and given the industry I work in I meet, interact, work and socialise with people from all backgrounds, race and religions.

If Hamilton and others want to take a knee then do it. All respect. But that does not mean that others who do not take the knee are automatically wrong or a racist.

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It's OK the CEO of Mercedes was just interviewed on Sky Sports before the F1 start and Mercedes have been against racism and exploitation for decades. So that'll be about the 7 decades then, obviously anything before then was just fake news.

I don't have an issue with Mercedes nor the CEO's statement. After all the past is the past. But I do get pissed at them using the current political situation to try to score PR points. Oh and F1 have given a £1m to support anti racism / inclusion. Hmmm, let me see, a sport dominated by predominantly white millionaires and billionaires has given £1m. Somebody must have got the cleaner to check for petty cash behind the back of their sofa on their £multi-hundred million yacht....

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As some of the other drivers said, you can support anti racism without having to prove it by dropping to one knee.

I’ve  always been a fan of Hamilton but his criticism of those who don’t drop to one knee, plus his evident anger during today’s race, are leading me to believe that he now has a massive attitude problem which is going to do him no good in the coming months.

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Hamilton should stay out of politics and concentrate on driving.

Celebs who get political are simply out their depth. 

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This. 100%. 

Before long if that carries on there will be a rapper in the White House :huh:

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47 minutes ago, mayevora said:

If you are a law abiding nice person, then that’s enough for me to make my assumption on.

Just saying that these days is offensive 

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Hamilton took his eye off the ball this weekend, too much time spent ordering t-shirts and telling other people what is expected of them. Hard to imagine Clark or Senna fucking around like that on a race week. Look at the good Senna done quietly without a fuss, and had the sense to employ his sister so he could concentrate on racing. No comparison

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2 hours ago, Bibs said:

This. 100%. 

Before long if that carries on there will be a rapper in the White House :huh:

Apparently Melania is quite handy with scissors, Sellotape and paper. Roll on Christmas.

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4 hours ago, Bibs said:

This. 100%. 

Before long if that carries on there will be a rapper in the White House :huh:

We have had an actor and now a clown so go WEST young man

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