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Take a group of sports cars on a test run to see which one is the best at being a sports car. Immediately dismiss the one which has the best sports car attributes, acknowledging that it has the best sports car attributes and bang on about the Porsche.

I remember now, why I stopped reading EVO. 

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If only 0.1% of your readership/potential readership own a Lotus, there is no value to the publication in promoting Lotus. 

The commercial pressures in publishing are severe; everyone has to bow to them or shut up shop. 

Justin 

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That was a very confused piece. It goes on for the whole article about how the 911 is too big, not exciting enough, too much like a normal car. It doesn't top any list and yet, somehow it wins and is a landmark moment with the Evora which was widely praised except for it not having a fancy dashboard coming last... Eh?

 

The end is also terribly written.

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What a completely shit article. An absolute joke of a written work. Loads of fluff bluster and pishe. Where was the winner and loser list ? It’s not exactly clear.

seems all the article is about is watching these journalists rubbing their testicles over the bonnet of a porsche and then saying it wasn’t really very smooth on the sack.


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I get the commercial pressures but a lot of the readers don't so you just get this virtuous cycle where owners who choose a Porsche feel vindicated as the magazines tell them they did the right thing.

Therefore they never try anything else and get a new experience.

A new 911 would be a great daily, but at the weekend which would I choose for fun. A 911 or an Evora? 

But then I'm as biased as the Mags.


Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!        

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Yes, utter drivel as usual. The 992 is "aloof", "a Panamera Coupe" (I thought exactly this at the launch; hate it), "feels like a solid slab of a car with overly heavy steering " yet still wins?

The Evora "...has the polish of the Porsche but with an abundance of character and a deep sense of connection. In many ways it shames the others,"  and ".. its grip, damping, braking and agility unfailingly highlighted how simplicity and low mass are at the heart of a great sports car."    but comes last?

Those guys have been schmoozed by the mainstream brands and gone old and soft and love comfort, tech and huge numbers too much. I used to love EVO in the Harry Metcalf days, but unsubscribed from their BS years ago.

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I haven't read the article linked above, but happy for those of you that have and confirm that EVO is still as bad as it was when I stopped subscribing many years ago.

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When Felix Dennis published EVO (IE. when he was alive and Dennis Publishing was his baby), I am not sure making dosh was the primary concern. I think EVO was set up to very much fill a gap that the commercial sector had always struggled to fill. Supercar Classics in the 80s was an example of a good mag but too specialist. Harry M was the perfect editor for EVO, the Dennis/Metcalfe combination was made in heaven.

I think those days are long-gone at EVO, much like they have gone at Pistonheads since Ted sold out to Haymarket.

Justin

 

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I don't care how good the new 911 GT is as that's what seems to come from my scanned read

On 12/07/2020 at 18:02, EGTE said:

Yes, utter drivel as usual. The 992 is "aloof", "a Panamera Coupe" (I thought exactly this at the launch; hate it), "feels like a solid slab of a car with overly heavy steering " yet still wins?

The Evora "...has the polish of the Porsche but with an abundance of character and a deep sense of connection. In many ways it shames the others,"  and ".. its grip, damping, braking and agility unfailingly highlighted how simplicity and low mass are at the heart of a great sports car."    but comes last?

Those guys have been schmoozed by the mainstream brands and gone old and soft and love comfort, tech and huge numbers too much. I used to love EVO in the Harry Metcalf days, but unsubscribed from their BS years ago.

Darn you beat me to it, that's exactly what I what came into my head when reading it.

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Absolutely and perfectly natural.

But the narrative was completely at odds with the conclusion and the Evora was just dismissed, despite being "a great sports car"! Given EVO purports (and used to be) about "The thrill of driving", it shows how blinded by (mainly German) tech and plushness they have become.

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I think a good couple of posts above. As r3nault says, different people like different things, someone who likes the handling balance of an FR or wants ultimate straight line pace etc. will prefer another car, that car (whatever it may be!) is the best car in the world for them because it's the one that they want I think we can all agree with that.

The issue as EGTE says is that the article is terribly written and I wouldn't mind if they had summed it up with 'for drivers x is the best car but as an all round daily package it's y' but they just deployed a very confused illogical ending that didn't connect to the body of the text.

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Maybe the wrap-up is written by the accounts dept :lol:

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That'll be right @Bibs as Accountants seem to gravitate to Porsche's and Audi's. Dull cars for dull people!  :shock: :sofa:


Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!        

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11 minutes ago, Techyd said:

As I read it, the R8 won the test...

Me too... but then... oh, life's too short.

I genuinely don't know why we get bent out of shape by articles like this (but we do).  It's a familiar rehash of eleventy million similar articles.  Lotus e-something put up against similar rivals as best in sports car class and loses for being best in sports car class but not having decent sat-nav or some other bollocks.

It's astonishing to me that it's the 'murican Motoring press that is the most in love with all the things that Lotus do well.

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3 hours ago, C8RKH said:

That'll be right @Bibs as Accountants seem to gravitate to Porsche's and Audi's. Dull cars for dull people!  :shock: 

Check out my car list, There is the exception.......

 

PS I am an accountant!

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@Kevin Wheeler - there is always the exception and I am glad I found it.

I had typed in a retort on my experience of over 20 years of dealing with internal accountants. I deleted it as I thought it just might be over the line!  :)

 

 

 


Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!        

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You can't offend me. I have heard them all  and agree with most of them!

(Heard the one about the gregarious accountant who would look at your shoes while he is talking to you?)

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I’ve known Kevin for a number of years and can assure you he’s as normal as me!

Oh, hang on..............🤔😁

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