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First its banning advertising certain kinds of foods now its certain kinds of cars. I am not a conspiracy theorist at all but even I can see where this is going. Stand in line please, now do as we tell you, no you can't have freedom of thought and no you can't have a burger or a 4x4. No, sorry, our new Alcohol pricing means a pint is £10, you can't have a quick cheap pint its bad for you.....what's that? You want to keep some of your wages? How could you possibly do that, we are still paying for COVID/HS2/putting in green infrastructure. You are obviously an awful person and people need to call you names and tell you you are destroying their future.....etc etc. You get the idea. This insidious creeping policy of banning anything one person or organisation doesn't like or is offended by, is creeping into society.

Education not Legislation. Educate people on fatty foods. Make packaging clearer, Use the money to make healthy food cheaper than fast food rather than just banning everything! Ultimately, like smoking, certain things will become socially more unacceptable through choice, BUT you have to leave people the choice! The stupid thing is that I drive an SUV that they want to ban, it's also got less emissions and better fuel economy than a small city car that they don't want to ban. These people may be experts in clean energy but they know nothing about the car industry or advertising or the real life working of cars. And this is true across the board right now. The people making the rules are NOT experts, they are people who want to interfere for their own reasons!

This idea that Govt needs to Police how we spend our money and what we can buy, based on people like Greta Thunberg and certain pressure groups must stop!!

Adverts for large polluting cars 'should be banned'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53607147

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These days it's somewhere to put the statues you don't want anyone to see.

Well I do think they should ban driving SUVs indoors.  That’s just bloody dangerous and it messes up the floor that the lady wife just vacuumed and mopped.

Not as in depth as you think by the title but.............. First its banning advertising certain kinds of foods now its certain kinds of cars. I am not a conspiracy theorist at all but even I ca

I’ve been somewhat bemused by being told we need to lose weight because we’re all fat bastards, and then in the same breath they’re offering us all a tenner off eating out, including, arguably, the most unhealthy food on the planet.

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You are probably fighting a losing battle. The good will get tarred with the same brush as the bad and legislation will make no distinction between the two.

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@Kimbers, you could argue that advertising is a form of education. Present company excluded, there are many stupid people in this country who need ongoing education. The BBC article refers to the possible legislation of advertising. Those clever enough to see through it will, those who aren't won't. I'm sure a labour government would skip past this education route (through legislated advertising) and go straight to banning. Better the devil you know?

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8 hours ago, Chillidoggy said:

I’ve been somewhat bemused by being told we need to lose weight because we’re all fat bastards, and then in the same breath they’re offering us all a tenner off eating out, including, arguably, the most unhealthy food on the planet.

Just because it's eating out doesn't mean it's unhealthy. It's your choice what you  eat.

 

And on SuVs they are not banning them. There's a proposal to ban advertising which is what they did with smoking and that did almost nothing to reduce peoples choice and cigarette sales. Not until smoking in indoor public places and the emergence of vape as an alternative did smoking become more socially unacceptable. Maybe they will have to ban SuVs. Or if you take the smoking approach tax cars by weight and ban SuVs from within half a mile of a school.

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I don't think they want to ban an SUV per se just the advertising of the ones that are bigger than a car park space. Seems to me to be the sensible thing to do as they are all getting too big for UK roads

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What is an SUV anyway? It can be anything from a full fat Range Rover to a Renault Kadjar which is fairly small and does no more damage than a Clio.

Defining smoking was somewhat easier.

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3 hours ago, pete said:

I don't think they want to ban an SUV per se just the advertising of the ones that are bigger than a car park space. Seems to me to be the sensible thing to do as they are all getting too big for UK roads

But I am rather large and have 6 kids and four dogs and I need one to get around. You are just a hater and it is my right to have whatever car I want as I am entitled!  :)

Personally, think it's all rather a faff to be honest. If you want a SUV have one., If the government wants to dissuade you then just hit it with a tax increase. Then if you still want one, so be it. Oh, generally they do all that already so what are the Government going to do with the lost tax revenues from these big cars and does a Tesla Model X count as a SUV - of course it does, as it's big and ugly too....   Hmm.....

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With you on this @Kimbers I think the Gov have got too far ahead of themselves. They seem to have forgotten they are public servants and not via versa.

Here in Norwich the city council seems to have taken it upon themselves to reduce cars and traffic and parking into the city centre. I never voted for that.

Same with the NDR the Yare Valley, Norwich Airport & housing. They seem to do what they want and are able to ride rough shot over the will of the people.

 

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15 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

But I am rather large and have 6 kids and four dogs and I need one to get around. You are just a hater and it is my right to have whatever car I want as I am entitled!  :)

Personally, think it's all rather a faff to be honest. If you want a SUV have one., If the government wants to dissuade you then just hit it with a tax increase. Then if you still want one, so be it. Oh, generally they do all that already so what are the Government going to do with the lost tax revenues from these big cars?

I heard they're planning on increasing taxes on red wine purchased in Scotland by 200% to compensate.

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24 minutes ago, Buddsy said:

With you on this @Kimbers I think the Gov have got too far ahead of themselves. They seem to have forgotten they are public servants and not via versa.

Here in Norwich the city council seems to have taken it upon themselves to reduce cars and traffic and parking into the city centre. I never voted for that.

Same with the NDR the Yare Valley, Norwich Airport & housing. They seem to do what they want and are able to ride rough shot over the will of the people.

 

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Makes me laugh mate. And then Norwich Council say they can't understand why all the shops are going bust! 

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2 hours ago, Kimbers said:

Makes me laugh mate. And then Norwich Council say they can't understand why all the shops are going bust! 

Exactly! They want to make it harder for customers to get into the busy city.

They want to make it harder for commuters to get into the city (not that thats going to happen anymore anyway)

So whats the point of a city centre?

And were you ever consulted on this?

 

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SUV's are a popular villain even though they often take up no more road space or use more fuel or give out more emissions than a regular saloon car.  Still, we don't want facts to get in the way of policy decisions!

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