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570S / Cup430 Pros and Cons


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@Screem didn't see that one, but there is a 570GT with 800ish miles on it for what is not a lot more than a specced up 430

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160174077?advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&radius=1500&make=MCLAREN&sort=price-desc&price-from=500&model=570GT&postcode=ch642xq&page=1.

To be honest, just canvassing opinion as I've never been in one, I think its called "window shopping". I watched JayEmms videos on Maccas and his reviews don't show then in a good light to be honest. Just looking for an owners view.

BUT you can't beat a Kw Green 430 👍👍👍

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Is this for road use? I have not driven a 430 but I have owned a 12c for 5 years. 

If you like and understand Lotus and the manner in which the cars drive, you will most likely find a McLaren the best car you have ever driven. The steering and suspension are Lotus-esque  - not surprising as most of the engineers are ex-Lotus. 

12c/650/720 have the more sophisticated and adjustable suspension but 540/570 still fab. 

As for Jay-Emm.....he spent 12 months or more moaning about his Evora that he could not really afford to own. McLaren have sold 30,000+ cars in 11 years - he focuses on a few that have had problems. 

The McLaren will cost you more in servicing and probably depreciation than a Lotus but it really is the pinnacle of lightweight, fast sports cars (in relative mass production). With a McLaren warranty you have nothing to fear. McLaren Birmingham for servicing are lovely. Bell and Colvill now service the Woking Wonders too. 

As a young company. McLaren Automotive are going to get some things wrong. And the cars do not have 50+ years of development. The fit and finish is a leap above Lotus, they are versatile and usable cars for long tours but excite on the twisty stuff. 

430 is probably more thrilling on the margin but considerably less practical and less sophisticated (not in a bad way - just very different). 

Justin 

 

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Nice to read some well balanced responses. I'd love a 12c (just really still like the look of them) or a 570. Not interested in the more powerful stuff as just not road relevant to be honest and I would only rarely take a McLaren on track, it would be more for UK/Euro touring and spirited driving on my local Scottish roads.

I don't wish to derail this thread, so if anyone has experience of a 12c/570 that has been used (some cars are now getting quite old) then I'd be interested in your ownership experiences and views and please feel free to PM me if you wish with them.

Will watch with interest your journey Mark is you decide to go down this route. Andrew Laing (one of the TLF LEGS organisers) moved to a Macca and he seems to have had an excellent ownership experience with them and the car, and the only other Macca owner I know has had a great experience too. It makes it a hard decision though when you hear about some of the horror stories but I guess bad news circulates faster....

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Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

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Got my eye on this lovely low mile 12c  :wub:

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Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

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I bought my 12c second-hand nearly 5 years ago. 24,000 miles later (total 33,000 miles), it is still my favourite car ever. 

It had 2 years of warranty and I bought 3 more years. It is a total luxury, it is not the budget-boy choice, the warranty is expensive but I have no bad experiences on claims. They fixed minor items without asking. 

Don't buy a McLaren and expect to run it cheaply. It will depreciate and it will cost you to service it (budget £1k to £2k for the annual service). Ideally cough up for the McLaren warranty. 

The good news is that more specialist are appearing on the scene to help fix McLarens outside of the official network. 

I don't agree that McLaren are devoid of feel, though you do state compared to Exige, which I cannot comment on. 12c has oodles of feel, this can be maxed up in track mode. I had a blast on Saturday in this mode on some B roads - the car shrinks around you, full throttle ain't necessary.

I love Evora (I consider Evora more comparable to McLaren), it is all you need and stonking value to run/maintain but the 12c is another level better. But you pay for that.

Justin 

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