Popular Post GT Two 13 Posted October 1 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 1 Hi all, new guy here. I can't stop thinking about the Evora 410 I had recently as a courtesy car. I dearly love my Mclaren but am thinking of changing it for an Evora GT430 sport. There are a few reasons but mainly because I think it suits my driving requirements better now. I loved being back in a manual, I loved the size of the car for B roads, I handling and braking and of course the noise. I am trying to make a decision and have some questions that hopefully Evora owners can help me with. - There is a 430 GTE and a GT430 sport, are there any differences between the two? - Are the Ohlins height adjustable? - What sort of power would a decat, smaller pulley and an upgraded air intake provide? - How does the build quality hold up on Evoras after 20k plus miles? Thanks! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Popular Post jep 787 Posted October 1 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted October 1 Build quality is fine. Plenty of high miler Evora around with no negative reports. Not sure there is a GTE430. Evora GTE may be tuned post-factory to 430 but they were 350 from factory (I think). GTE history is told elsewhere on this forum or look via Google. GTE are 5+years old now. Evora is a stunning car and much cheaper to run than a McLaren. I love a McLaren but in the real world, Evora is all you need. Justin 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post jerzybondov 36 Posted October 1 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 1 Evoras don’t cosmetically wear mileage/age as well as a 911 (I have both) but that is mostly just the hand built nature of them and if you’re coming from a McLaren you’ll be familiar with the foibles of low volume sports car manufacture. Mechanically they wear the miles (and age) extremely well. Engine is bulletproof, as is (for all the shit thrown at it) the gearbox (on the cars you’re looking at). Rust not an issue, unless you include mudguard brackets. Ive not seen a GTE vs GT430 comparison, but I’d wager the GT430 is the more polished road car, GTE more of a collectors piece due to low production numbers. And I think they mostly were 440bhp but each of them was built to the customers specification. Regarding the tuning potential - there’s a couple of options I believe (Komotec is one) but it’s not the sort of thing your local guy can do due to the integration required with the car’s brain. Not like my R53 Mini where you just whack on a reduction pulley, some cold plugs and a CAI and hey presto here’s 30% more bhp! Not surprised you had a great experience in a GT410 - I had an hour in one (see pic - took me approx 30secs to feel completely at home) and a week later I had an Evora outside my house 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post GT Two 13 Posted October 1 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 1 Thanks for the replies. Jep, part of the attraction is the cost to run including track days, brakes on the mclaren are not cheap! Jerzybondov, that looks exactly like the car Bell and Colvill let me have for a few days. Pic attached. I will check out Komotec. I didn't actually feel that the 410 lacked power, I just like to tinker! Love that blue! 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bruss 566 Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 Lotus GTE is 350 hp and is now an old model. The Lotus 440 bhp version was a track car only. There is a similar looking car produced by Stratton motors based on the Evora GTE. Each one is different, but Stratton will tell you what those differences are. The GT430 is no longer produced but is the last 'power' model and also has body and interior differences and is a fairly limited edition. Re modding the cars- as always do your homework as to how much support there is and what the potential pitfalls are of a non Lotus approved mod. 430 runs a little lower than non 430 on the Ohlins, but they are not height adjustable as fitted. The 430 is the car that I would go for over the others and not mod it, although the 410 is a close second, especially if you are going to use it as a base for modding to your own requirements. Whichever you go for it won't disappoint, even after a Mcl. If you can afford to keep the Mcl for the road and run the Evora for track, that would be a great combination. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM jep 787 Posted October 1 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 1 Bell and Colvill a great Lotus dealer. Which McLaren do you currently have? My 12c has been kind to me on brakes but I don't track it. I suppose if you track a car, you can never have enough power! Twisty, short straights tracks would I assume suit Evora best. Justin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LotusLeftLotusRight 1,151 Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 Sounds like you need a manual GT430 (the one with the high wing), which would be ideal for track use. There are always a handful for sale. Alternatively you have Exige 430 or even 3-Eleven for really fast track days. Stratton GT is also manual and about 430bhp, but LHD only. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerzybondov 36 Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 Do the 430s have the same issues with noise testing that other 4xx cars have? Do you need to change / mod the exhaust for track use? And yes - that is exactly the car I took out - you must have been treating B&C well if they gave it to you for a few days! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post GT Two 13 Posted October 1 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 1 38 minutes ago, jep said: Bell and Colvill a great Lotus dealer. Which McLaren do you currently have? My 12c has been kind to me on brakes but I don't track it. I suppose if you track a car, you can never have enough power! Twisty, short straights tracks would I assume suit Evora best. Justin I had a 12c for 2 years and 22k miles and really enjoyed it. They have steel brakes so much cheaper to run on brakes. My 570 is a track pack car which has been to MSO for some more track biased mods. Blindingly fast and great on the limit but after nearly 2 years I am ready for a change. My local track is Brands and I think the Evora will be well suited. 43 minutes ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said: Sounds like you need a manual GT430 (the one with the high wing), which would be ideal for track use. There are always a handful for sale. Alternatively you have Exige 430 or even 3-Eleven for really fast track days. Stratton GT is also manual and about 430bhp, but LHD only. I only need this to be a toy and I have been contemplating buying a 3 Eleven and having a custom screen made so I don't need to use a crash helmet. For a toy and the odd track day I think this could be great, you only live once! 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM jep 787 Posted October 1 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 1 22,000 miles in 2 years with 12c. Well done! I average about 8,000 per annum but CV19 has messed up 2020....1st world problem. Love your 570. No idea if Evora can match that thrill on track but there is only one way to find out. Justin 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Bibs 10,877 Posted October 1 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 1 14 minutes ago, GT Two said: My 570 is a track pack car which has been to MSO for some more track biased mods The current head of MSO owned my Evora for the first five years of its life! Here's a taste of the GT430 on track in the hands of a very capable driver... 3 1 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to post Share on other sites
GT Two 13 Posted October 1 Author Report Share Posted October 1 2 minutes ago, jep said: 22,000 miles in 2 years with 12c. Well done! I average about 8,000 per annum but CV19 has messed up 2020....1st world problem. Love your 570. No idea if Evora can match that thrill on track but there is only one way to find out. Justin C19 has definitely slowed things down but I have still managed 10k miles in the 570s in 18 months. I think the two cars are very similar in some ways but also very different. Big power and big boost, pointy and seamless gearshifts vs revvy, manual, feelsome, small. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevsked 766 Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 I do really miss my GT430, fab on road and track. Was an epic day at Silverstone, seems a long time ago now and probably the last time I tracked it. Trevor. Quote I'll get around to it at some point. Link to post Share on other sites
Loquacious Lew 280 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 Regarding Komotec, I have installed their 435 tune in my 400. It is a more powerful tune with better throttle response than the factory version currently being delivered in our GT versions. I have no way to compare it to the 430 factory tune that has been available to you in the various 430 iterations available outside the USA, but I suspect it is more powerful than that as well. It makes a real difference you can feel and elevates the car from "quick" to genuinely fast. I installed it myself, and I am far from computer savvy. KT also returns the stock tune and a 91 RON to the purchaser so the car can be reflashed to its factory condition in ten minutes. BTW, 91 RON is our lower octane"premium" fuel that is available in all states. We have two standards for premium fuel. 93 RON is not universally available here so you do need the additional 91 RON map if you live where 93 isn't available but still want most of the benefits of the KT tune. I have catalogued my experience with getting the KT tune loaded to my car on LotusTalk (search "Another Komotec Thread" on Lotustalk for the full saga). It's a bit harder to source and install here than in Europe, where you have local vendors. In the US, we need to buy it direct from Germany and there is no support for it from third party vendors. Even so many of us have installed it to great effect. Quote '17 Evora 400 MT Link to post Share on other sites
Gashead1105 298 Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 You will need an aftermarket, quieter exhaust for Brands. No way the OE 4XX one will make it through the noise limits. I have a 2bular on mine, and some enormous cans, which was fine for Snetterton a couple of months ago. (Although I've just bought an old Caterham for some trackday fun, going to try to keep the 400 for the road). Don't know about you but I think mine looks better... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Five50 32 Posted October 11 Report Share Posted October 11 I could be wrong but believe the Lotus track exhaust fits the Evora and Exige - it’s about £2k from Lotus but will get you on most places Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM BatMobile 514 Posted October 12 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 12 12 hours ago, Five50 said: I could be wrong but believe the Lotus track exhaust fits the Evora and Exige - it’s about £2k from Lotus but will get you on most places Yeah, I have one for my cup430 and its very good at getting you on all tracks. I bought it from Trevsked who had it on his GT430. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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