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Never met JYS, but a mate of mine did ca. 1984. My mate was an apprentice at the specialist subcontractor near Wellingborough who were developing the very first RS200s for Ford. He has some great anecdotes, like when they jacked one up in the workshop and ran it at full chat in top gear. Anyway, every now and again, the Ford top brass would come up from Essex to review progress. They sometimes bought Jackie Stewart with them for advice: he’s often been associated with the blue oval throughout his career. One day he asked my mate to join him on a shake-down drive along the local roads in the still secret prototype. He wanted a mechanic on hand it case it broke down. It was an incredible experience: this was back when most people were dawdling around in 50bhp hatchbacks and my mate was being driven around at speed by a multiple F1 world champion in a 350bhp mid-engined 4WD rally car. 
 

Eventually, when the prototypes were complete and the design had been signed-off, Ford ordered the company to scrap any excess parts, tooling etc. and so, being the apprentice, my friend was tasked with chucking the lot into a skip!

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So the RS200 then?  That car had such potential. Looked superb. Just did not have the time it needed to develop as Ford were late to the party IIRC. Would love to have one today!

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53 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

So the RS200 then?  That car had such potential. Looked superb. Just did not have the time it needed to develop as Ford were late to the party IIRC. Would love to have one today!

Can you guess which Company built the bodies without Googling?

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1 hour ago, C8RKH said:

So the RS200 then?  That car had such potential. Looked superb. Just did not have the time it needed to develop as Ford were late to the party IIRC. Would love to have one today!

Fiesta switchgear and nasty gearstick. Built for one purpose, but not the one for private road use. 

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Nothing wrong with Ford switchgear in a Ford. 

When I am asked (too frequently) where the indicator/wiper stalks are from in my Evora, I say Ford GT(40). Which is true.

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29 minutes ago, tim_marra said:

Fiesta switchgear and nasty gearstick. Built for one purpose, but not the one for private road use. 

I'd have thought it would be sublime on a private road! 😆

I'd have no trouble driving one on the road. Or a Lancia 037. Etc...

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2 hours ago, Chillidoggy said:

Can you guess which Company built the bodies without Googling?

I haven't googled it but was not Reliant/Scimitar of the Robin fame?

I don't give a shit about indicator stalks either which is why I have an Evora.  Sure they are the ones I had on my XR3i in 1987!

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11 hours ago, C8RKH said:

I haven't googled it but was not Reliant/Scimitar of the Robin fame?

I don't give a shit about indicator stalks either which is why I have an Evora.  Sure they are the ones I had on my XR3i in 1987!

Coconut duly awarded. It was indeed Reliant.

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I remember there being jokes about it at the time but also seem to recall that Reliant made "bodies" for a number of vehicles and it was a good side line for them.

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Apparently Reliant assembled all 200 of the “standard” cars in double quick time to get them homologated, but did a pretty shoddy job by all accounts, so that Ford themselves had to do it again prior to sale. I don’t think any of the Group B homologation road cars were happy just pootling around. They all wanted a good thrashing, like Max Mosley and Frank Bough back in the day.

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1 hour ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

Apparently Reliant assembled all 200 of the “standard” cars in double quick time to get them homologated, but did a pretty shoddy job by all accounts, so that Ford themselves had to do it again prior to sale. I don’t think any of the Group B homologation road cars were happy just pootling around. They all wanted a good thrashing, like Max Mosley and Frank Bough back in the day.

Looks like we’re both wrong -
 

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=878360&i=80

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Not really. That thread confirms that the 200 homologation cars were all hastily built at an old ex Reliant unit in Shenstone to satisfy the FISA officials. It also confirms that these cars needed fettling before sale. OK, Ford were in charge and used mainly Ford personnel together with some ex Reliant staff, but you’d expect that. Anyway it’s not that important nowadays where they were made.

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2 hours ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

Not really. That thread confirms that the 200 homologation cars were all hastily built at an old ex Reliant unit in Shenstone to satisfy the FISA officials. It also confirms that these cars needed fettling before sale. OK, Ford were in charge and used mainly Ford personnel together with some ex Reliant staff, but you’d expect that. Anyway it’s not that important nowadays where they were made.

 

Where does it confirm they were hastily built? Couldn't see that.

You said Reliant assembled the cars, but the post confirms that was definitely not the case, rather that they made the external panels. I was also fed the information that the bodies were built by Reliant, and I was wrong. As a past owner of a couple of Reliant Scimitars, I guess the lure of an RS200 connection was too difficult to pass up for some of the 'historians'. :)

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They were based at Boreham, Essex. I used to see lots of RS200 around as I lived near Boreham (in fact spotted a couple around a couple of months ago), I have heard there is a barn full of parts up there, Ford used to have its headquarters at Boreham house and a test track there and it's where they were built and looked after. Lots of people round here have worked for "Uncle Henry" including me. Quite often see test mules from Dunton around, When I was there we had the Jag F1 car in the foyer, Stewart turned up one time as he was the boss of the F1 team I think. 

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