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How common is the elite onto excel conversion . I visited Lotus bits last week as i am looking to get back in the game , Mr Taylor was very generous with his time as always , and said that he has done the conver alot . I have searched and could not find any pic or details of completed cars . Are these owners not on the forum or shy ? . Has anyone got a picture of the above conversion with the latest se oz wheels ? . This is the look i am going for , I think 

Thanks 

 

Lee

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I don’t think the backbone itself is wider, but the fibreglass does need cutting away under the rear seats so that the suspension arms can be accessed. I believe that there are also some minor changes

Hi, To see what I had to do to fit my Elite body onto an Excel chassis see "Elite Body to Excel Chassis clashes revealed" posted by me on August 21, 2017 in Projects & Restorations https

18 minutes ago, lee glennon said:

Hi All ,

How common is the elite onto excel conversion . I visited Lotus bits last week as i am looking to get back in the game , Mr Taylor was very generous with his time as always , and said that he has done the conver alot . I have searched and could not find any pic or details of completed cars . Are these owners not on the forum or shy ? . Has anyone got a picture of the above conversion with the latest se oz wheels ? . This is the look i am going for , I think 

Thanks 

 

Lee

Hi Lee,

Mine is one of these. I chose to retain the Elite look as much as possible by using 14" Speedlines from an early Excel. I don't think Oz wheels would look right on an Elite, but each to their own. Apart from looking underneath, there isn't much to say that these cars are different!

Cheers, Richard

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Hi @lee glennon if you have a really good eye for detail, you may spot that the wheels aren't quite central to the wheel arches, the Elite body is set for a slightly shorter wheelbase than an Excel. It's only a couple of inches and you'd probably only notice it if somebody pointed it out and the image was perfectly side-on to the car.

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If I recall correctly, the Elite body will need much cutting in the rear passenger area due to the wider backbone on the Excel chassis. 🙂

It's getting there......

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thanks for the replys chaps . I will update on my search for a car . I am really kickingg  myself for for selling the cars . I sold the last one , a reasonably good car that ran but just needed recoming . It was a late k reg excel se and i sold it for 3and a half grand .

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Lee

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On 10/11/2020 at 19:24, andydclements said:

Hi @lee glennon if you have a really good eye for detail, you may spot that the wheels aren't quite central to the wheel arches, the Elite body is set for a slightly shorter wheelbase than an Excel. It's only a couple of inches and you'd probably only notice it if somebody pointed it out and the image was perfectly side-on to the car.

Are you sure? Graham Robson in The Third Generation Lotuses shows the wheelbase on Elite and Excel identical at 8 ft 1.8 inches.

Cheers, Richard

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23 hours ago, TAR said:

If I recall correctly, the Elite body will need much cutting in the rear passenger area due to the wider backbone on the Excel chassis. 🙂

I don’t think the backbone itself is wider, but the fibreglass does need cutting away under the rear seats so that the suspension arms can be accessed. I believe that there are also some minor changes needed for body/chassis mountings.

cheers, Richard

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Personally I don’t like these Frankenstein conversions but I understand that the Excel is easier to maintain. i also think the OZ will not suit the appearance but it is your car then... 

iirc the track is different to the earlier cars and affect the handling a bit

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Hi,

To see what I had to do to fit my Elite body onto an Excel chassis see "Elite Body to Excel Chassis clashes revealed" posted by me on August 21, 2017 in Projects & Restorations

https://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/topic/90693-elite-body-to-excel-chassis-clashes-revealed/?tab=comments#comment-737072

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On 11/11/2020 at 19:38, rjwooll said:

Are you sure? Graham Robson in The Third Generation Lotuses shows the wheelbase on Elite and Excel identical at 8 ft 1.8 inches.

Cheers, Richard

I thought that when I looked at one at Lotusbits, one axle had the wheels were off-centre in the arches, looking at one online set of specs there's supposedly c50mm difference, looking at another just 2mm difference, so don't know what is right.

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My service notes say 2483mm wheelbase for both the Excel and the Elite/Eclat.  The track is different - Excel 1460mm or 1479mm depending on wheel fitment,  Elite front - 1486mm, rear - 1499mm.

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interesting , need to see a complete car in the flesh to make call . I will visit mike at lotus bits and ask him . I have secured a car once the lock down has finished . And today when speaking to a mate about something completely unrelated , he mentioned an elite s1 that has been sat at his farm only 10 miles away from my home . I am looking at it tomorrow . I think the idea of later oz wheels came from a book i had that showed a section on lotus bits . It showed a yellow s1 eclat with oz wheels i think , has anyone got this book ? .

 

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lee

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