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I'm trying to resolve door mirrors not working.

The 4-way switch appears fine, as there is some "clicking", but I'll give it a good look/clean. The Left/Right swith appears in good order also.

If the door mirror motors are faulty, how to I get the glass off so I can look at the mirror motor?

TIA

 

 

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First, it would be good to verify that these are the "FORD"-marked mirrors.

 

I haven't had an issue with our mirrors so I can't help, specifically. BUT, an auto glass shop should be familiar with glass removal and replacement, so perhaps one local to you could give you free advice.

 

BTW, don't discount the possibility that a power wire or earth could be broken near the hinge, a result of the door opening and closing. Clue: both up/down and left/right operations don't work.🤨

Atwell Haines

'88 Esprit

Succasunna, NJ USA

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Am I right in thinking that early mirrors do not have motors but solenoids which click and move the mirrors? Mine has motors but they are not correct or original to the car... 

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1 hour ago, skiing said:

Am I right in thinking that early mirrors do not have motors but solenoids which click and move the mirrors? Mine has motors but they are not correct or original to the car... 

Yes, prior to '85 I think 😀

54 minutes ago, thebartman said:

Hmmnnn, Don't know 😞 - How would I tell the difference?

The solenoid operated ones move with a clicking action every time you toggle the switch, as opposed to the constant motion of the motor operated ones 😀

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John W

http://jonwatkins.co.uk

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I had the same issue with my brothers S2. As you say they are not motors but solenoids that click when you move the switch. Each click should move the mirror by a small amount. On my brothers car they had stopped moving so took it off the car, sprayed WD40 behind the glass for a week or so and kept operating the mirror until it worked via a power supply. It did free up eventually without resorting to a strip down.

C43

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Just now, Christian43 said:

I had the same issue with my brothers S2. As you say they are not motors but solenoids that click when you move the switch. Each click should move the mirror by a small amount. On my brothers car they had stopped moving so took it off the car, sprayed WD40 behind the glass for a week or so and kept operating the mirror until it worked via a power supply. It did free up eventually without resorting to a strip down.

C43

My type of fix - awesome  @Christian43 - as I really don't want to break glass and hunt down replacement(s). Would a good soak in electrical switch cleaner be advised or just WD40

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Here's some post's on the solenoid mirrors. If you're not sure, you can compare your door switch, which will be different for solenoids vs motors. The whole mess relies on the ball joint the mirror is mounted on having enough stiction to hold the mirror in place but still move a bit when the solenoids kick. A little corrosion and you're done, hence the WD40 fix. 

As a dread prior owner, I could not put the solenoids back in, I swapped in the guts from a pair of ebay motor operated ones and added a switch to suit. I took mine apart verrry carefully with a heat gun to soften the adhesive behind the mirror glass while I gently pried it off.  Odds of breakage are higher than you'd like though.

 

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Awkward screws to get at but doable. 
I think the solenoid and motor mirrors are built the same just different drivers. Mine are motors and I fitted a different change over switch as I suspect the wiring was for solenoid because I could not get them to work. 
diagrams below may help. Good luck ✌️

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