gregs24 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, C8RKH said: I think the decision to provide the exemption was crass and untenable. Those who made me need to leave their positions. Novak has the right not to be vaccinated, but he has to also respect the "rules" that each nation has put in place. Looks like he is going to need some pretty strong evidence upon arrival if he isn't going to be sent back home. There are some valid medical reasons for not being vaccinated, however his stance on vaccination and some of the comments he has made do not align with any of these reasons. If it was a simple medical exemption he could easily have made this clear to prevent confusion and upset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 43 minutes ago, gregs24 said: Beyond nutters I have no words. 2 Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. For forum issues, please contact one of us Moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM thebartman Posted January 5 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Barrykearley said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/04/macron-declares-his-covid-strategy-is-to-piss-off-the-unvaccinated what a fantastic example of modern elected leaders. Bring on the backlash 👍 What ever happened to "Liberté, égalité et fraternité " ? 🤫 I (may) have said this before - a benevolent dictatorship IS the way to go. 😇. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted January 5 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, gregs24 said: Looks like he is going to need some pretty strong evidence upon arrival if he isn't going to be sent back home. As long as he is negative what’s the issue?? You can catch it and transmit it whether you have taken big pharmas special needle or not. Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregs24 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 37 minutes ago, Barrykearley said: As long as he is negative what’s the issue?? You can catch it and transmit it whether you have taken big pharmas special needle or not. Irrelevant - Australia have clear border rules (as do we), comply or go home. 'Big pharma special needle'. I assume you mean hugely successful vaccination program, and if you had the AZ vaccine supplied at cost (non profit) to the UK government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted January 5 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 5 42 minutes ago, gregs24 said: Big pharma special needle'. I assume you mean hugely successful vaccination program, and if you had the AZ vaccine supplied at cost (non profit) to the UK government. “At cost” is a vague figure. They have almost stopped using AZ for the majority of jabs now in many areas. It’s best not to ask how much GP surgeries and pharmacies get paid by the nhs on this little gravy train. There’s not many people in the world whom would be convinced big pharmaceutical companies are only interested in the greater good. Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post C8RKH Posted January 5 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted January 5 4 hours ago, gregs24 said: I think you will find nobody has ever 'met' God full stop - Jesus maybe! Do you have any evidence to back that statement up? 3 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregs24 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 16 minutes ago, Barrykearley said: “At cost” is a vague figure. They have almost stopped using AZ for the majority of jabs now in many areas. It’s best not to ask how much GP surgeries and pharmacies get paid by the nhs on this little gravy train. There’s not many people in the world whom would be convinced big pharmaceutical companies are only interested in the greater good. Well not so vague that published accounts didn't show it - they lost money on the COVID vaccine for quite some time AstraZeneca's vaccine rollout nets $275m in sales - but drags on its profits | Business News | Sky News Remember my sister is a GP - you expect her to work for nothing? Why shouldn't she be paid to work? Is there anybody in the world that you don't hate ? 2 minutes ago, C8RKH said: Do you have any evidence to back that statement up? Why, are you going to try to prove me wrong ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 I'm glad the pharmacies (& GP practices) could generate the extra few £s for each injection given. They're loosing ground to online firms who don't have the same challenges over covering long hours, physical presence in each area etc. So extra income for those location-based pharmacies (and the GP practices that did it themselves) is good else we'll loose them and try asking an online pharmacy to help when you're run out of tablets and it will be a couple of days before the GP re-issues the script. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted January 5 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 5 32 minutes ago, gregs24 said: Remember my sister is a GP - you expect her to work for nothing? Why shouldn't she be paid to work? You've gone to the other extreme to Barry. I don 't think Barry was suggesting that GP's should not get paid. Read his post again. However, I don't think GP's can plead poverty either. And no, I won't try to prove you wrong. But I will leave you to provide the evidence to prove your original point. 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted January 5 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 5 55 minutes ago, gregs24 said: Is there anybody in the world that you don't hate ? At what point exactly have I stated that - get a feckin grip. Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted January 5 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, gregs24 said: Remember my sister is a GP - you expect her to work for nothing? Why shouldn't she be paid to work? Just checked, £15-30 per jab. Certainly not doing it for nothing. 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregs24 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 58 minutes ago, Barrykearley said: At what point exactly have I stated that - get a feckin grip. Well you always seem to be moaning about something .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Okay, will do. Well, at least there's a clear positive development long term, it would seem. Kind regards, Jacques Quote Nobody does it better - than Lotus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted January 5 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 5 41 minutes ago, C8RKH said: Just checked, £15-30 per jab. Certainly not doing it for nothing. Yup - my eldest regularly does 240 in a 4 hour shift….. Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted January 5 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 5 29 minutes ago, gregs24 said: Well you always seem to be moaning about something .... Hardly - questioning some of the logic touted about by politicians, media and folks on here really isn’t that. It’s not hate either. Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pete Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 4 hours ago, Barrykearley said: Yup - my eldest regularly does 240 in a 4 hour shift….. That's one every minute for 4 hours solid Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted January 5 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 5 Yup. That is indeed correct @pete As I understand it the process at that centre was streamlined by the uk army medics. Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 10 minutes ago, pete said: That's one every minute for 4 hours solid Impressive 8 hours ago, Barrykearley said: As long as he is negative what’s the issue?? You can catch it and transmit it whether you have taken big pharmas special needle or not. Been deported Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted January 5 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 5 All the while we have just scrapped pre departure testing for arrivals into the uk. All secondary school kids had to have pre arrival tests before starting back at English schools. Seems they are applying more stringent controls on uk citizens than they apply to “foreigners” - how completely opposite to Oz 🤔 Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregs24 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 19 minutes ago, Barrykearley said: All the while we have just scrapped pre departure testing for arrivals into the uk. All secondary school kids had to have pre arrival tests before starting back at English schools. Seems they are applying more stringent controls on uk citizens than they apply to “foreigners” - how completely opposite to Oz 🤔 What are you on about ? We have 100s of thousands of cases of omicron in the UK at present - what value is any testing for arrivals in the UK? It was only introduced just before Christmas for a time limited period to delay arrival of omicron cases - which it may or may not have done. Oh and all arrivals in the UK are not 'foreigners'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted January 5 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 5 17 minutes ago, gregs24 said: Oh and all arrivals in the UK are not 'foreigners'. It was a direct comparison between uk policy and Oz policy - and the Novak situation - he is indeed a foreigner in terms of Australian citizenship - maybe that wasn’t clear. 1 Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFO Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 14 hours ago, C8RKH said: Just checked, £15-30 per jab. Certainly not doing it for nothing. I think I read somewhere that this is an additional payment but not for extra work or time .. as the GP can simply not do his/her usual work to do the jabs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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