Coronavirus

[Buddsy 1,642]

I dont think so. A few of my customers have had people had it. Well I say had it maybe I should say tested positive. And a few students at my wife work had it. 

Have you?

buddsy

[pete 1,900]

don`t think so

[Buddsy 1,642]

A relative of mine has been in hospital London after a brain clot in intensive care for a couple of weeks while they wait to operate...hes now got Covid. So where did he catch that then?

The strain people seem to catch in hospital seems to spell the end for them.

I see people blaming each other for not sticking to the rules but in general I see people do seem to be sticking to the rules in the main.

I was convinced from the beginning social distancing doesn't work and as for masks you might as well wear those on your arse. 40 years of research on the subject say they dont work but 4 weeks of research in march claimed they do.

At what point will people accept its not the people its the lock downs that dont work.

 

buddsy

[PaulCP 690]

The lockdowns have not been as effective as they should have been  because they have been too lax and not enforced sufficiently 

Oz, NZ and other got it right with full border closures & curfews etc. It would have been a more draconian approach but would have also been a shorter period.

Main thing to remember is that many, and in particular the glorious Labour leader, are experts in applying the science of hindsight🤔

[comem47 242]

22 hours ago, Buddsy said:

 

I was convinced from the beginning social distancing doesn't work and as for masks you might as well wear those on your arse. 40 years of research on the subject say they dont work but 4 weeks of research in march claimed they do.

At what point will people accept its not the people its the lock downs that dont work.

 

buddsy

I'm sure glad my surgeon wore a mask for my open heart surgery  (his mask protects me) You'd be surprised how far sneeze droplets go without one.

https://www.livescience.com/face-mask-visualization-droplets-covid-19.html

[Buddsy 1,642]

1 hour ago, comem47 said:

I'm sure glad my surgeon wore a mask for my open heart surgery  (his mask protects me) You'd be surprised how far sneeze droplets go without one.

https://www.livescience.com/face-mask-visualization-droplets-covid-19.html

Thats assuming you believe the idea a virus is spread by water droplets from a persons breath. An unproven idea that many scientists do not subscribe to.

As to your surgeon wearing a mask during theater Im sure it makes the patient feel safer but in reality even surgeons are not sure if they are worn for their own protection or that of the patient.

"the extracted data revealed no statistically significant association between mask usage and the incidence of surgical site infection" - Royal Society of Medicine

buddsy

 

[SFO 190]

Your surgeon's mask is medical grade standard and far far more effective than the face coverings worn by joe bloggs

Surgeons have been wearing masks for decades before CV19 turned up

[comem47 242]

We'll have a duel then. Masks at 10 feet. You get to choose whether the unknown Covid positive person facing you in a room wears one or doesn't when they sneeze. Do you feel lucky?    🤔

[red vtec 186]

2 hours ago, comem47 said:

We'll have a duel then. Masks at 10 feet. You get to choose whether the unknown Covid positive person facing you in a room wears one or doesn't when they sneeze. Do you feel lucky?    🤔

The simplest way is, if people are not concerned about covid, think lockdowns, masks etc don't work. Is they agree that if they contract it and require medical assistance that they wont take it. I mean they wont need medical assistance, as its not real, its only flu etc. put their money where their mouth is...doubt they will.

[Dan E 1,582]

24 minutes ago, red vtec said:

The simplest way is, if people are not concerned about covid, think lockdowns, masks etc don't work. Is they agree that if they contract it and require medical assistance that they wont take it. I mean they wont need medical assistance, as its not real, its only flu etc. put their money where their mouth is...doubt they will.

Now there is a brilliant idea.

I have been having some texts with a member on here who has lost someone last week to this.
My bet is Chris Whitty is probably more qualified than anyone to tell us what to do, so do you know what I am going to follow his advice, not the ones who get their information from the internet.

wearing masks is not that difficult is it, if it saves one person out of 60 million then great I will wear one 

[Kimbers 1,835]

I don't understand why this is even a conversation. It is plainly obvious that wearing a mask is to protect others, not yourself. Any kind of face covering reduces the amount of vapour you expel and how far it goes therefore reducing the amount put out. Surgical masks have both the effect of reducing your intake and what you put out.

It doesn't matter how effective it is overall, it's part of a raft of measures including distancing, washing your hands regularly, using alcohol hand wash and many other things we do to REDUCE the chance of infection. 

Make no mistake here. This thing is so transmitable that its impossible to nullify the risks. But having seen the Hospital recently and having had COVID why would you not try and reduce the risks and more importantly why would you not be pissed off if someone else refuses to wear a mask seeing as how they could transmit it much easier to you? 

I have confronted several people recently in Supermarkets for not wearing a mask. All of them idiots who thought it was funny or just plain refused to wear one because it was "Bollocks innit Bruv". This is the height of lack of responsibility, breathing over food others will then buy touch and transmit the virus to. Only one had a valid medical certificate. In the first week of 2021 Over 1300 fines were issued in London for not wearing a mask when required. 

So not only is it the right thing to do it's the cheapest!

[Sparky 2,861]

It's a casualty of social media, contemporary ignorance/paranoia and the fact that many people haven't had yet their homes visited by the Grim Reaper.  When he knocks they'll change their minds, regrettably too late.

Death by COVID-19 is an awful thing to witness; I can't imagine experiencing it.

[Bibs 11,377]

Anyone on here been jabbed yet?

[PaulCP 690]

I had a call from a welfare officer working out of my GPs who was asking if we were getting everything we need ok due to shielding.

She also told me that I am on the local clinically vulnerable list so should expect to hear about an appointment by 7th Feb latest.

I’m not holding my breath though looking at how vaccinations are progressing in East Suffolk😟

[Bibs 11,377]

Fingers crossed. I'm CEV so hoping to hear soon and ideally the Pfizer one which sounds best of the lot! 

[andydclements 787]

37 minutes ago, PaulCP said:

I had a call from a welfare officer working out of my GPs who was asking if we were getting everything we need ok due to shielding.

She also told me that I am on the local clinically vulnerable list so should expect to hear about an appointment by 7th Feb latest.

I’m not holding my breath though looking at how vaccinations are progressing in East Suffolk😟

Still burning people at  the stake for such things aren't they?

[pete 1,900]

1 hour ago, Bibs said:

Anyone on here been jabbed yet?

Had notification I can book an appointment now,none available

[Kimbers 1,835]

Only just been offered my Flu jab yet alone COVID. And the Police have been totally omitted from any priority list so no joy there. I mean, it's not like you are dealing with people all day within 2 meters, going into peoples homes or dealing with people who tell you they are vulnerable or anything!

[mayevora 1,265]

I’m booked in for a flu jab tomorrow but probably months away for the first Covid inoculation. 
Hope I’m wrong but I can see the next problem issue will happen after 25-30 Million have been inoculated (thinking they are immune) and they start to return to some sort of normality within their lives after lockdown is gradually eased - The rest of the population not having received the jab therefore naturally become more at risk from coming into contact with covid carriers. Hope I wrong but I can see the Hospitals being at capacity for a very long time.

Great that NHS staff are having/had theirs as they should be and all other emergency services I would hope should be prioritised very shortly and up next. 
I can’t see me returning to my job until mid March or later - I’m actually in two minds if I even want to return to work unless I’ve been inoculated. It was different after lockdown 1 and even 2 but as the weeks have trickled by, we all now know family and/or friends who have had it or have it. Too close for comfort now.

[Colin P 675]

4 hours ago, Kimbers said:

Only one had a valid medical certificate.

This is bollox as well, firstly - I don't accept it, unless you are on oxygen, and if not you should be shielding anyway, so shouldn't be out - notwithstanding this, additionally, even if it is genuine then there is nothing stopping them from wearing a face shield.

[Kimbers 1,835]

11 minutes ago, Colin P said:

This is bollox as well, firstly - I don't accept it, unless you are on oxygen, and if not you should be shielding anyway, so shouldn't be out - notwithstanding this, additionally, even if it is genuine then there is nothing stopping them from wearing a face shield.

To be fair, if they have a certificate then they are not wearing a mask legally and the Police can't do anything about it, that was my point.

[Cdm2018 175]

I am getting my jab tomorrow AstraZeneca and even got my booster date on April 1 ( April fools day Lol)  

[Colin P 675]

1 hour ago, Kimbers said:

To be fair, if they have a certificate then they are not wearing a mask legally and the Police can't do anything about it, that was my point.

I hadn't really put the challenging together with your Police duties - but fair point. What it needs is to legislate it as a fall back position - for the benefit of others.

I'm assuming you are a Special? But some of your comments seem to infer that the training for Specials is somewhat more comprehensive than it was when I served.

[LotusLeftLotusRight 1,318]

From what I’ve read on-line, the Moderna vaccine, which we haven’t got, is Top Dog, closely followed by Pfizer/Biontech. The cheapo Astra Zeneca one we developed only works on monkeys, but since the majority of our population resemble the missing link, it should be just fine.

Joking by the way.

My MIL has had both doses of Pfizer/Biontech vaccines already. She suffers from so many illnesses that they seem to cancel each other out. She also doesn’t set foot outside her home, except for medical appointments, so is extremely unlikely to catch CV-19 anyway.

[Chillidoggy 4,386]

I see the Archbishop of Canterbury (aged 65) has jumped the vaccination queue.