Suddabym 437 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Buy now, buy new and own one of the last, but wait to see what run out specials they come up with 1 Quote Sudders and Dany Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post CocoPops 854 Posted January 25 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Suddabym said: Buy now, buy new and own one of the last, but wait to see what run out specials they come up with Already had my letter of intent in place since last year for one of the last Elises. 3 Quote Currently Owned: 2018 Lotus Elise Sport 220 in Metallic Blue, Alcantara Pack, Forged Wheels, 2piece brakes, AirCon, Hard/Soft Tops, Red Calipers, Stereo, Interior Colour Pack, NVH Pack, Carpets, Mats. Previously Owned: 2016 Lotus Evora 400 'Hethel Edition' in Essex Blue, Red Leather, Red Calipers, Silver Forged Wheels Previously Owned: 2010 Lotus Evora NA in Solar Yellow, Sports Pack, Tech Pack, "Heritage Edition" Recaro Seats Follow my Lotus journey here: http://www.FaceBook.com/HandmadeInHethel Link to post Share on other sites
Arregueti 210 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 ^ Tell me more @CocoPops 😃 (it is good to see you around here again) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yeller77 113 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Wiping the slate clean and coming out with 3 new cars and a hypercar does seem a bit Bahar-ish (you're welcome @Suddabym). Wot no SUV? Guess they didn't have a tarp big enough.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CocoPops 854 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 54 minutes ago, Arregueti said: ^ Tell me more @CocoPops 😃 (it is good to see you around here again) I knew I wanted the last of the Elise back in Feb 2019, so signalled my intent then and then followed up last Autumn with a letter of intent into my dealer to secure a slot. Just bided my time with my current Elise between then and now. Will be up for sale soon, or will part exchange when the time comes. I'm expecting the spec any time soon hopefully. Quote Currently Owned: 2018 Lotus Elise Sport 220 in Metallic Blue, Alcantara Pack, Forged Wheels, 2piece brakes, AirCon, Hard/Soft Tops, Red Calipers, Stereo, Interior Colour Pack, NVH Pack, Carpets, Mats. Previously Owned: 2016 Lotus Evora 400 'Hethel Edition' in Essex Blue, Red Leather, Red Calipers, Silver Forged Wheels Previously Owned: 2010 Lotus Evora NA in Solar Yellow, Sports Pack, Tech Pack, "Heritage Edition" Recaro Seats Follow my Lotus journey here: http://www.FaceBook.com/HandmadeInHethel Link to post Share on other sites
NedaSay 849 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 5 hours ago, RobinB5 said: A little clearer. Run out of filters to apply Hum so if the new car is getting an hybridized V6 and this V6 is longitudinally monted... even as a strict 2 seater, I anticipate it to be slightly bigger than Evora so it would be the car on the left?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Suddabym 437 Posted January 25 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 25 27 minutes ago, yeller77 said: Wiping the slate clean and coming out with 3 new cars and a hypercar does seem a bit Bahar-ish (you're welcome @Suddabym). Wot no SUV? Guess they didn't have a tarp big enough.. Dany is an automotive genius. He just cut the roof off a Tesla. I think I need say no more. 1 2 Quote Sudders and Dany Link to post Share on other sites
rallyesax 179 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 58 minutes ago, yeller77 said: Wiping the slate clean and coming out with 3 new cars and a hypercar does seem a bit Bahar-ish (you're welcome @Suddabym). Wot no SUV? Guess they didn't have a tarp big enough.. They are talking about the cars to be produced in Hethel. The SUV will be manufactured in China. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM RobinB5 277 Posted January 25 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 25 Wonder how well informed this render from a few months ago will turn out to have been: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post LotusLeftLotusRight 1,317 Posted January 25 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 25 It was just a photoshop of the Evija desert press photo. I would suggest that the wheels will also be circular, but other than that, not much. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Likuid 121 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 So 3 cars huh? I am just glad they all appear to have a different look. I hate the trend where cars from the same company all look very similar. One on right seems Elise-sized. Two on left seems to be much wider. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NedaSay 849 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 @yeller77The three new sports cars were intended by JMG, the difference is in the timing... it's not supposed to be a blitz but a progressive unveil... However they are now about 3 years behind on the initial plan because of late change in strategies and covid. the new sport car was initially a 2019 unveil and 2020 release which is now going to be a 2022 release. But the full EV sport cars were hinted a 2024 initially for the first product, this is still a possible release date but it will probably be delayed to sometimes between 2025 and 2026. Also, the Alpine deal goes a long was reestablishing Lotus' place in the automotive consulting world and definitely helps proving to the higher ups at Geely that Lotus is a valuable entity. Back to Type 131, so it replaces all three current models, and according to Autocar it does it while being a V6 hybrid? if the starting price is 55k and the top end price is 100k ish, it probably is gunning for the Boxster/Cayman combo. A sport premium mid engined V6 hybrid for 55k ?! the other mid engine hybrid in the sport premium arena is the NSX, that car is not at 55k entry price. I'm not saying it can't be a V6 hybrid, but a V6 hybrid would command a higher price don't you think? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mg4lotus 159 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 (edited) Looks like they take their styling cues from the Evija as previously mentioned. The middle car has one line of lights that are quite wide. The smaller car on the right has two lines of lights that are narrow. The car on the left has three lines of lights. So family likeness with different accents. Edited January 26 by mg4lotus multiple posts removed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PAR 277 Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) On 25/01/2021 at 20:01, NedaSay said: I'm not saying it can't be a V6 hybrid, but a V6 hybrid would command a higher price don't you think? This would be a drastic change to many early communications. 131 was supposedly to be 55k 4cyl and a 100k+ 6cyl. we also know that the car is wider than an evora based on test cars pictures. I am going to give a view here, not a V6 Hybrid (heavy for no reason performance wise), and not a V6. A flat 6! That would be something to end the ICE story of the company! Edited January 26 by PAR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NedaSay 849 Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 17 minutes ago, PAR said: This would be a drastic change to many early communications. 131 was supposedly to be 55k 4cyl and a 100k+ 6cyl. we also know that the car is wider than an evora based on test cars pictures. So that is pretty much my point. A V6 hybrid doesn't make commercial sense at 55k. The extra size probably comes from the need for more room for the occupants of the car. Autocar previously said that the car is a spiritual replacement of the Esprit. So having an entry model with an hybridized 4cyl ( from Geely-Volvo/Polestar) makes sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty435 1,105 Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 The delay with the program seems to coincide with Geely’s purchase of the Mercedes shares are we looking in the wrong direction for the power train?especially with the announcement last year on a venture with Mercedes to develop future petrol engines. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mg4lotus 159 Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 I just looked at that story in Autocar and the 4 cyl hybrid engine is due in 2024, so a bit of a wait for that. But, the story has a picture of a Chinese guy in the factory working on a V6 production line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mysterae 263 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 This might be heinous talk but what about a 3-cylinder hybrid, like the BMW i8? Light, low cost and accessible just like the Elise it replaces. A crazy line up such as: - No cylinder full EV - Evija - 3-cylinder hybrid - 6-cylinder hybrid -12-cylinder hybrid monster (unlikely!) Quote Signature not working... Link to post Share on other sites
Giniw 293 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 (edited) Or something closer to the Evora 414E concept? ^^ Edited January 27 by Giniw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PAR 277 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 12 hours ago, scotty435 said: ....especially with the announcement last year on a venture with Mercedes to develop future petrol engines. If it is a AMG engine, then it won’t be a V6 as Mercedes is moving away from producing those. They have 4cyl options good for 400Bhp+ though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SFO 189 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Mercedes has an in line 6 cylinder AMG lite engine which is pretty damn good too .. used in the 53 series Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregs24 149 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 14 hours ago, scotty435 said: The delay with the program seems to coincide with Geely’s purchase of the Mercedes shares are we looking in the wrong direction for the power train?especially with the announcement last year on a venture with Mercedes to develop future petrol engines. Mercedes are not developing any more ICE engines - they announced that last year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty435 1,105 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 8 minutes ago, gregs24 said: Mercedes are not developing any more ICE engines - they announced that last year Not entirely true. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/mercedes-benz-and-geely-co-operate-new-petrol-engines Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Techyd 244 Posted January 27 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 27 41 minutes ago, SFO said: Mercedes has an in line 6 cylinder AMG lite engine which is pretty damn good too .. used in the 53 series I was just thinking their E53 is a 6 cylinder with mild hybrid! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichardC 124 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Excited about the new cars, but when will they be in showrooms to test drive and order. When will they be delivered to customers? I'm worried that Lotus have announced this prematurely and just Osbourne Effected some of their dealers out of business. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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