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Hello all. It's been a while since I've posted on this forum. However I've been out of driving a lotus since 2014! When I sold my Europa S. I have since been wanting to get into an Evora.

Long and short of it is, I have the opportunity to purchase a 2009 launch edition Evora. A bit of background on the car, it has covered only 35k miles, full service history & has already had the clutch changed at 30k miles. 

Speaking to the owner, it seems there has been an abundance of "lotus quirks" he has had to fix in the past 3 years of his ownership, these being passenger door handle failing, MAF sensor replacing, clutch replacement, boot leaking, AC compressor has been replaced twice already and there is still a service spanner light is illuminating for 30 secs upon start up (last replaced only 6 months ago and has said it has failed already??). The front access panel where the windscreen wash is, cannot open and needs cable or rod replaced also.

Do you guys think this car is perhaps a lemon or is this the usual quirks expected to see from a launch edition car? Bare in mind this is almost a 12 year old car so expected to have a few niggles. 

I'm looking to buy cash and owner says will let it go for £23k.....general thoughts? 

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I bought mine with more miles, a list of jobs to be done that I compiled on the walk round and test drive and still made the maths work to jump from my Elise. There are plenty of threads on here to he

I think that the need to fit an after market exhaust is isn't always need , mine turned up with the Lotus Sports exhaust and 3rd CAT delete and looks like that have both been on since it came out of t

Fair call. Mine had the Lotus Sports exhaust also, but it wasn’t quite enough for me. Each to their own.

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If it were me, I'd be okay with that, they sound like minor issues to me.  I'd budget in some additional TLC work based on that and ask my local specialist to check it over.

Provided its overall condition is looking good, drives well and has a full and well documented history then it could be a great buy!

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10 minutes ago, Techyd said:

If it were me, I'd be okay with that, they sound like minor issues to me.  I'd budget in some additional TLC work based on that and ask my local specialist to check it over.

Provided its overall condition is looking good, drives well and has a full and well documented history then it could be a great buy!

Thanks for the feedback. Car drives very well, has full service history and recently MOT and serviced back in September at Craig Moncrieffs. Seemingly there is still an on-going issue with the spanner light coming on upon start up, which owner has advised me this is due to AC needing fixed again?

Overall minor things are not going to bother me all that much, as long as it will drive as will be my only mode of transport and plan to use it daily. It has the added bonus of the 2ubular exhaust which makes the car sound as it should in my opinion. 

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All sounds very minor matters to me for a 12 year old low volume manufacture car. Clutch replaced is a major bonus as that is an expensive job and hopefully it will last many years, so you can tick that off as a likely expense avoided. 

Check date age of tyres - and tread. 

You may want to know what gearbox it has, if that is important to you. Standard ratio (long box) or close ratio (on 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, modified by Lotus and more prone to failure than the Toyota-supplied unmodified long box. Failure of CR box is rare but does happen).

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19 minutes ago, jep said:

All sounds very minor matters to me for a 12 year old low volume manufacture car. Clutch replaced is a major bonus as that is an expensive job and hopefully it will last many years, so you can tick that off as a likely expense avoided. 

Check date age of tyres - and tread. 

You may want to know what gearbox it has, if that is important to you. Standard ratio (long box) or close ratio (on 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, modified by Lotus and more prone to failure than the Toyota-supplied unmodified long box. Failure of CR box is rare but does happen).

Justin

 

Thanks for response, I'll have to ask that question as thats a good point to raise. 

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My thoughts exactly, with the Elise, exige and evora being announced by Lotus as ending production later this year (think I'm correct in saying this) I'm wondering if that will mean these cars will appreciate quickly? 

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At the end of the day only you can decide if you are willing to pay the asking price. I would have thought you have done your research as to the price and condition of similar cars. You can be sure that if you pass it up some one else will buy it as there seems to be a waiting list for early £25k Evoras at the moment.

I would like confirmation that the issue with the illuminated fault lamp was just the a/c so you know what your dealing with.

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I bought mine with more miles, a list of jobs to be done that I compiled on the walk round and test drive and still made the maths work to jump from my Elise. There are plenty of threads on here to help with the common issues. When it comes to the gearbox is the long or short discussion mines got the long box and it's no big issue to me. Makes the car a really long legged mway cruiser if your doing that sort of run and after coming from an S2 111S K series Elise it's quick enough in the lower gears.  As has been said in the other responses sub 30k cars are a challenge 3 had gone I'd been watching before I found this one!

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Launch editions are cracking cars IMO. Bonus the clutch has been done and as others have said the rest seems minor. Remaining spanner could be something as simple as a throttle body clean. 
 

Agreed re the long box. If anything it’s second that needs to be shorter (almost takes you to 130kph) and it’s the same in both boxes. 
 

Can highly recommend fitting an aftermarket exhaust. The 3.5 Toyota so I can sound surprisingly impressive 👌🏼

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There is a nice looking 2009 blue LE on autotrader that’s just come up for sale. It’s just come in as a PX so there is a deal to be had. I am just not into the cream leather myself otherwise I would be on my way to view it. 

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£23k sounds like a good deal to me with that mileage.  What colour is it - if you like the colour and it’s in great condition cosmetically then it sounds like a great buy.

27 minutes ago, Hughesy83 said:

There is a nice looking 2009 blue LE on autotrader that’s just come up for sale. It’s just come in as a PX so there is a deal to be had. I am just not into the cream leather myself otherwise I would be on my way to view it. 

Previously owned for all of a month by someone on here - I think it had a few gremlins, some still need sorting..

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40 minutes ago, DBG said:

Launch editions are cracking cars IMO. Bonus the clutch has been done and as others have said the rest seems minor. Remaining spanner could be something as simple as a throttle body clean. 
 

Agreed re the long box. If anything it’s second that needs to be shorter (almost takes you to 130kph) and it’s the same in both boxes. 
 

Can highly recommend fitting an aftermarket exhaust. The 3.5 Toyota so I can sound surprisingly impressive 👌🏼

I think that the need to fit an after market exhaust is isn't always need , mine turned up with the Lotus Sports exhaust and 3rd CAT delete and looks like that have both been on since it came out of the seekers. As an LE it doesn't have the exhaust valving and sounds mighty wonderful when wound up as is ... so dependant on that there's money to be saved. I'd budgeted for clutch and exhaust when I went lookin and neither have been needed so cash saved to go towards some Carbon bits to replace the cracked black plastic bits.

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1 minute ago, cdco said:

I think that the need to fit an after market exhaust is isn't always need , mine turned up with the Lotus Sports exhaust and 3rd CAT delete and looks like that have both been on since it came out of the seekers. As an LE it doesn't have the exhaust valving and sounds mighty wonderful when wound up as is ... so dependant on that there's money to be saved. I'd budgeted for clutch and exhaust when I went lookin and neither have been needed so cash saved to go towards some Carbon bits to replace the cracked black plastic bits.

Fair call. Mine had the Lotus Sports exhaust also, but it wasn’t quite enough for me. Each to their own.

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Depends whether your problem is compressor or condenser - Lotus official price on the compressor alone is £2kish plus vat and labour. I got a discount to £975 recently but the aircon fix on my car ended up being best part of £1500 with the labour and vat.

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I haven't been following prices that accurately for while but I would say thats a reasonably priced car.   Most issues sound like little niggles that can be sorted, maybe double check regarding the AC issue.   but even if you have to pump in a few £K your self to get those sorted.   I think you can have a very good condition Evora with low milage for £26-28K  which would still be a good price for a well sorted LE.

So double check everything maybe get a professional inspection done and if you are comfortable taking on a small project and spending a bit more on the car then I think you can end up with a pretty nice motor.

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Thanks to all above that have responded. Certainly seems all of you think that the above issues is no biggie and somewhat 'normal'. Think I will go for it as the evora is a stunning car and I've wanted one since it came out in 2009. 

One last question (although I'm sure this has been more than covered somewhere else on this forum). How do all you owners of early S1 evoras find the cars reliability now that the car is 12 years old? Assume aslong as the car is well maintained and serviced each year the cars tend to be relatively trouble free? As I will be using this evora as my daily driver. 

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Most the issues are quite common niggles but usually not found all on the same car.  But in my opinion they are niggles and as I said even after you've invested a few £ to sort them the car is still good value.

I've had my 2010 Evora for 3.5 years now lost count of how many miles but must have done 15K-20K in my ownership its on ~75K now.  The clutch was replaced on warranty when I bought the car.  2nd year the AC condenser seized and needed replacing and last year the clutch master cylinder needed replacing.  Apart from that its been fine.  In my opinion for a car that age and that many miles I think thats good going. Can remember costs but neither issue was crazy amount and reasonable to get sorted.

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I've not enough mile's under mine personally  but from reading I'm not expecting anything that can't be resolved and wouldn't be expected on any 12 year old car.

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