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Hi All,

Can anyone tell me where I can get some of these (they hold the water and coolant pipes to the body or frame at various points and come in different sizes)...

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Also when making brake lines, the male flares appear to be DIN flares but there doesn't seem to be a female DIN flare, would these be SAE double flares or am I an idiot?

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Finally does anyone know where I can find suitable M10 female to female adaptors in stainless steel? There are plenty in zinc plated steel but I can't find any in Stainless. Even a machine shop that can make them would be a welcome steer.

cheers

-Chris

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  • Gold FFM

SJ used to supply the nylon clips.

I’ve never seen any stainless connectors here, but there’s a company called MFCP in the US might be worth looking at.

Margate Exotics.

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McMaster-Carr in the USA sells the plastic clips (called P-Clips)

 

A bit of Googling for sources near you would certainly find some replacements. You can buy them in all different sizes.

Atwell Haines

'88 Esprit

Succasunna, NJ USA

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On 26/04/2021 at 13:38, CarBuff said:

McMaster-Carr in the USA sells the plastic clips (called P-Clips)

 

A bit of Googling for sources near you would certainly find some replacements. You can buy them in all different sizes.

Hi Atwell, I couldn't find these clips in the McMaster-Carr website and I don't think these are P-Clips because they are open ended (although I could be completely wrong on that front), if you have a link to some I would be very grateful. At the moment I have resorted to ordering some sheep plastics and may have to make some myself. I am trying nylon and polypropylene to start with hoping they exhibit the correct properties. 🙂 

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You seem to be correct, JAE suggested I use McMaster for the broken ones on our Esprit but I hadn't got A Round Tuit.

 

I looked at SJ, Lotus used them in newer models like Elises. Found Lotus OEM vendors that sell them in several countries, too.

Atwell Haines

'88 Esprit

Succasunna, NJ USA

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As for the brake pipe ends, I think the mating face of DIN and SAE is identical, the difference being the part inside the union. My flaring kit has different clamping plates for SAE and DIN (either convex or flat), but only one kind of insert for the mating face.

BTW, nice work making those open-ended P-clips!

I have made many mistakes in my life. Buying a multiple Lotus is not one of them.

 

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Turns out SJs do carry the open ended P clips which you can search for but the photos are broken. I've ordered some and will confirm they are correct when they arrive. 🙂

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Yup the P clips from SJs are indeed the open ended formed nylon type I was looking for all along. 🤦‍♂️

Almost back the channel topic, has anyone had to make up a new clutch pipe? This is 1/4" or 6mm but seems to still use M10 x 1.0 unions, but where the heck can you buy them from, everything I find is for 3/16" pipe only. 🥺

cheers

-Chris

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Hi @Barrykearley,

Are you sure those threads are correct?

When checking my original clutch line fittings they seem to match the M10 x 1.0 fittings that I have for the brake lines. The only obvious difference is the 1/4" pipe (clutch) vs 3/16" (brake) so the hole through the fitting needs to be bigger. 🤷‍♂️

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I simply cannot remember what the threads were. All seems such a long time ago.

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