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Has anyone else experienced quite bad knee pain after transitioning from auto cars into a manual Lotus? Does it get any better with time?!

A week or so after buying my manual Evora at the start of May, I started to get some mild discomfort in my left knee. I assumed I'd done something to it whilst running, but don't remember a specific impact or twist that could have been the cause. I'm in my early 30s and consider myself relatively healthy and fit. 

After a few more weeks of driving the Evora, I'm noticibly limping and driving the car is becoming rather painful. Even just walking around the house is an unpleasant and painful experience. 

It's severe enough that I'm considering selling the car! I've got a physio appointment booked, but wanted to see whether any other members had had similar issues, and hopefully stories of how it all magically got better as your body adapted to the new driving position. I can drive my wife's manual Polo with no issues and have only been driving an auto for the last three years and owned a manual Focus before that. 

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Which Evora model have you got , the pre 400 cars you sit a bit at an angle, with the 4xx cars the footwell is a bit wider and you sit a bit more 'normally'. I tend to notice a pain in my right knee after a while (and I don't go running either).

The clutch pedal on my S seemed heavier than the current gt430.

 

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I feel very sorry for you.......that is very pity......

Besides your visit to the physio I can inform you that I have / had the same with my right knee in a rather severe way a couple of years ago.

I visited the specialists in a hospital and was X-rayed on both knees, but nothing special was found........I had to find my own way.

Things were far more better / disappeared since then when I started taking / swallowing  "Glucosamin Chondroitin"  on a daily basis.

This was advised to me by friends.

It is available at (vitamine-) drugstores........

It takes some time before it helps (couple of weeks), but the result is remarkable........not only by myself, but it helped more people I know.

Do'nt sell your Evora..........!!!

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I'd imagine that you're getting used to the clutch being a little heavy. Evora clutches can be heavy if you're not used to a manual.

I'd imagine a dealer could do some work with the hydraulics to ensure that it's all in order in the first instance. A heavy clutch can also be a sign of a worn clutch, but not always. 

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Have you tried different seat positions in the car? I find I sit closer to the steering wheel of the Evora than in other cars to feel comfortable. Possibly the pain is from extending the knee too straight, or alternatively from not extending it enough?

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Evora clutch weighting seems to be a bit pot luck. My NA has always been on the heavy side but I commute to SW London, so you notice it when doing 30 mins of stop/start. On the open road, I never give it a thought. Even after a new clutch and lightened 400 flywheel, pedal still needs firm shove. 

The S I had for 6 months was noticeably lighter, as is the Sport 410 I pilot on occasions.

Justin

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If it's any consolation, I too am experiencing 'stabbing' pains in my left knee and I haven't driven the Evora for 14 months, :cry:.

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I have poor left knee years of playing footy and driving tens of thousands miles for last 25 years etc 

I now wear a Vulkan knee support and find it helps with keeping my knee joint straight whilst supporting the muscle group in the knee/leg 

yes pot luck and my clutch is heavy certainly different to newer Evora ! I hopefully eased my knee by getting an auto company car and that’s taking strain of when I revert back to Evora 

maybe changing the cables or could be sign your clutch is starting to be go could be your issue however I think if you changed the clutch etc still have a clutch that’s heavier than the norm car ? 

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10 hours ago, rudolphwolven said:

*****

I feel very sorry for you.......that is very pity......

Besides your visit to the physio I can inform you that I have / had the same with my right knee in a rather severe way a couple of years ago.

I visited the specialists in a hospital and was X-rayed on both knees, but nothing special was found........I had to find my own way.

Things were far more better / disappeared since then when I started taking / swallowing  "Glucosamin Chondroitin"  on a daily basis.

This was advised to me by friends.

It is available at (vitamine-) drugstores........

It takes some time before it helps (couple of weeks), but the result is remarkable........not only by myself, but it helped more people I know.

Do'nt sell your Evora..........!!!

I second this advice I had scans and all sorts on my left knee because it was a pain like tooth Ake.

Untill one of the lads at work suggested Glucosamine and Chondroitin tablets I get them from Holland and Barret when in the penny sale and they need a month or so to get working but what a difference so I stopped and after a few weeks back came the pain so give them a try 

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I support the Glucosamine and Chondroitin suggestions. No pains but I play the fiddle and prevention better than cure so a half-dose daily. (Mine from Boots - so H&B have penny sales? I'll look out, thanks.)

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I'm split.

Glucosamine & chondroitin. Constituents of cartilage. So we are saying that in eating them, after digestion and absorption, somehow, the component parts mysteriously find their way to the joint or joints and do some good? It's conveniently convenient isn't it? No well recognised studies not in part funded by manufacturers have demonstrated a statistical effect. 

However. I know people who when they stop taking them(and that's the key) notice a difference. Anecdotal but for me it means they are probably worth a trial experiment. Take them for a month. See if anything changes (whilst changing nothing else) but more importantly, notice what happens when you stop taking them. 

Cod liver oil however. Take it. High strength (but no more). Not fish oil or Omega 3. Cod liver oil. We don't know which component of the oil has an effect but there is one. 

Be careful if you take other drugs or have LDL/HDL or cholesterol issues.

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Gonna give a try to Glucosamine & chondroitin also. Ordered yesterday. 

37 yo here but sport didn't/doesn't help knee issues 😕

Never felt any pain driving the Evora though

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I alwayss wondered about clutch design. My Esprit S2 was very heavy compared to my Dodge v8 pickup truck (wihch I could depress with my toe). Both hydraulic , but why was the Esprit so heavy?  I know the truck was no problem in stop/go traffic, but not the Esprit.

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Bit of an update:

Looks like I've got a bucket handle minescal tear. Probably caused by  an overenthusiastic return to running after a slightly sedentary year in lockdown...

Physio says car won't have caused it, but will have made it worse. 

May even need surgery, so I'm not sure what the future holds for the Evora! 😭

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I had a bucket handle meniscus tear in my right knee many years ago, which caused pain at times. Because it was only intermittent, I elected not to have surgery at the time  (pre keyhole surgery days) and now, some 45 years later, a scan has shown I have no cartilage left in my knee at all and will be needing a replacement!

If yours isn’t too bad, there is a stem cell therapy available now that might be appropriate. It was no good for mine as that has gone too far. 

As for the clutch itself, I have heard of people having a servo fitted to the hydraulic line of cars with a particularly heavy pedal feel. I don’t know if that’s possible on the Evora but might be worth investigating. 

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Bucket handle meniscal tear = MRI diagnosis unless the knee is locked (won't fully straighten)

Artificial menisci do exist and can be see with chondrocytes but at the moment the outcomes are no better than simpler traditional methods (remove it).

It is true that if you don't have a functional meniscus, end stage arthritis will eventually occur but that may take 20 or 30 years. Don't know any other treatment that has that longevity.

Si

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